Louisiana State's Weaknesses

Looking ahead to one of the two P5 games on LA Tech's schedule for 2018, Louisiana State's offense is a real mess right now. Since last season, STATE has lost their QB, their top 3 RB's and 3 of their top 4 receivers. In fact, according to this Orlando Sentinel article, the Tigers "enter a season for the first time since 1974 without a running back who scored a touchdown the previous season".

Think about that for a minute. 1974 was 44 years ago. That's a long time.

As a result, I really like playing this game early in the season (9/22, game 4 for the enemy, & game 3 for LA Tech). I also like the fact that the LA Tech game is squeezed between STATE's trip to Auburn and their annual beat down of Ole Miss, which should have special meaning to STATE head coach Ed Oregeron, who used to coach at Ole Miss. Hopefully, Oregeron will be looking ahead to Ole Miss, thinking about all his old friends there, and not be thinking about LA Tech.

Here's a good write-up on our opponent:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sport...530-story.html

I think we can win this game. But then, we should have beaten Arkansas and South Carolina, but didn't. Do not underestimate the capacity of Holtz to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory." That said, I think we have a shot. If (always "if's") the defense is as good as we all hope it is, and if Smith is actually ready to lead this team, we can win this game. And, we should know by the time that game comes around. A team capable of beating LSU in BR would donkey-stomp USA and SU.

And, it could be this will not be a very good LSU team too. Which gives us another reason to be optimistic, and that they have Ed O which nullifies any coaching advantage an SEC team is usually expected to have.

it's obviously their lack of QBs

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Originally Posted by dawg80

I think we can win this game. But then, we should have beaten Arkansas and South Carolina, but didn't. Do not underestimate the capacity of Holtz to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory." That said, I think we have a shot. If (always "if's") the defense is as good as we all hope it is, and if Smith is actually ready to lead this team, we can win this game. And, we should know by the time that game comes around. A team capable of beating LSU in BR would donkey-stomp USA and SU.

And, it could be this will not be a very good LSU team too. Which gives us another reason to be optimistic, and that they have Ed O which nullifies any coaching advantage an SEC team is usually expected to have.

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This is an all caps SHOULD WIN. Or at the very least, we have the best chance we've had since we last played them.

But the deck is stacked. They have SEC piss-flinging fans, at home, with a ref crew that will give them every advantage, and the best players money can buy. They also have the greatest coaching asset one can get...Skip Holtz on the other sideline.

Look at me making all these excuses. Next thing you know Tommy will give me a job!

HD, just so you don’t miss it, the game is actually on 9/22. All good points though.

Their defense is very good. We have to run the ball and block well in the screen/short passing game. Our linebackers have to stop the run. I really like our d line this year. Tons of experience, great size and we will finally see Willie Baker. We do that and we win.

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Originally Posted by techman05

HD, just so you don’t miss it, the game is actually on 9/22. All good points though.

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Thank you for that. I have now corrected the typo in the initial post. I don't want any Tech fans to miss this one. ;)

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Originally Posted by Dixonfor6

Their defense is very good. We have to run the ball and block well in the screen/short passing game. Our linebackers have to stop the run. I really like our d line this year. Tons of experience, great size and we will finally see Willie Baker. We do that and we win.

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Actually, based upon what I'm hearing and reading, I'm not sure LA STATE can score on us. On the other hand, with J'Mar at QB, I'm not sure we can score on them either. :laugh: I expect a low scoring game this time.

When we roll into Baton Rouge it will be very likely to play a 1-2 LSU team with a coach on the hottest of seats.

We better be 2-0 when we roll into the Great Cesspool.

Don't think it will matter one bit, but Ed O hates Tech. He played for the NSU Demons "back in the day," and as is typical of that lot, feels obligated to hate us. I doubt his players will be motivated by his hatred though. How would this play: "Listen guys, as a player I was 0-4 against Tech. This is my chance to finally beat them guys." Most players today might react, "Gee, you guys really sucked, eh coach!"

No matter their record at the time of our game, or their record at the end of the season, I can say this, LSU is absolutely loaded with NFL-quality talent. They always are. They have the talent and athleticism to make individual plays that can change a game.

It's ALWAYS better for a team like Tech to face a team with a good D and a questionable O than the reverse. If J'Mar is ready, this could be a VERY good game.

Skippy against P5 teams - we will play good and lead for 3 quarters then lose by 10 in the end.

The Sporting News has LSPoo at number 18 in its pre-season top-25. I'd love to know how they arrived at that ranking. A relative that bleeds purple and piss even says the tiggers are likely to be 1-2 when we roll into town. I just hope our Bulldogs are hitting on all cylinders and Holtz coaches the game like it's a bowl game.
http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-...41mjsjs5ieib2x

Haven't you heard, it is a bowl game. It's our SUPER BOWL, baby!

Hey...that might work. Holtz has shown the capacity to get a team ready to play in a bowl. Just declare it as so!

We may beat them, but there is no way we win. The citizens of this state are incapable of the thought. Y'all keep it real...and remember what we are dealing with here.

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Originally Posted by ChuckK3

We may beat them, but there is no way we win. The citizens of this state are incapable of the thought. Y'all keep it real...and remember what we are dealing with here.

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I've been saying the same thing. Those of us (BB&Bers) who no longer live in Louisiana....like, ya know, have been in Texas too long...think by prevailing on 9/22/18 in BR things will magically change across the state and Tech will garner widespread support, pick up casual fans, and sell more hats in Walmarts. VERY little of some of that might happen. But in the big picture the only thing it will do is piss off the lspoo worshipers/Tech haters.

Yep, keep it real. This is a game vs. a P5, an SEC team, on the road....ya know, just like we do on occasion, at Arkansas, South Carolina, and Auburn, Ole Miss, Moo State, aTm. Winning AT an SEC school is a quality road win. But it is still just 1 of 12 regular season games....and hopefully the CUSA championship game, and a bowl game. So, maybe 14 games in total. If we want to have a great season, they are all important. UCF went undefeated last year. They made ALL their games important.

Their weakness is always QB, OC play calling along with HC overall decisions and time management.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

We better be 2-0 when we roll into the Great Cesspool.

Don't think it will matter one bit, but Ed O hates Tech. He played for the NSU Demons "back in the day," and as is typical of that lot, feels obligated to hate us. I doubt his players will be motivated by his hatred though. How would this play: "Listen guys, as a player I was 0-4 against Tech. This is my chance to finally beat them guys."

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Coach O beat us when he was at Ole Miss (I think they only won 3 games that season) and I would expect him to beat us again. When you look at the difference in recruiting, depth, budget, assistant coaching, (head coaches are probably a push) between the two programs plus playing at home, Louisiana State should beat us. I wouldn't be surprised if Louisiana State's defense outscores both offenses combined, but their offense will probably get some late cheapies when our guys are gassed.

Actually, that's good. He beat us while at Ole Miss. Removes that small motivational factor from the equation.

As for our guys being gassed. Not possible. In fact, I expect us to wear them down. Don't forget who our conditioning coach is.

Our guys haven’t really been gassed against Arkansas and USC, who both had decent QBs with experience. I suppose they were against MSU, but our offense didnt help out there at all. If LSU’s offense isnt clicking, and ours takes care of the ball, we can do it. Im hoping we can snag a turnover or two off of them to help out.

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Originally Posted by ChuckK3

We may beat them, but there is no way we win. The citizens of this state are incapable of the thought. Y'all keep it real...and remember what we are dealing with here.

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Well regardless, "Mr Sunshine", why don't we try CRAMMING it down their damn throat this time and see how they like it anyway? Milk the sacred cow.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

Well regardless, "Mr Sunshine", why don't we try CRAMMING it down their damn throat this time and see how they like it anyway? Milk the sacred cow.

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We would all love to see it!

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Originally Posted by dawg80

I've been saying the same thing. Those of us (BB&Bers) who no longer live in Louisiana....like, ya know, have been in Texas too long...think by prevailing on 9/22/18 in BR things will magically change across the state and Tech will garner widespread support, pick up casual fans, and sell more hats in Walmarts. VERY little of some of that might happen. But in the big picture the only thing it will do is piss off the lspoo worshipers/Tech haters.

Yep, keep it real. This is a game vs. a P5, an SEC team, on the road....ya know, just like we do on occasion, at Arkansas, South Carolina, and Auburn, Ole Miss, Moo State, aTm. Winning AT an SEC school is a quality road win. But it is still just 1 of 12 regular season games....and hopefully the CUSA championship game, and a bowl game. So, maybe 14 games in total. If we want to have a great season, they are all important. UCF went undefeated last year. They made ALL their games important.

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Blah, blah, blah. Some of you Louisiana folks depress me. That last paragraph you wrote was NOT your best work, D80.

No, we already know there's too many locals that think the way YOU do to believe anything material will really change long term with a Tech win in BR. But, that's not the point anyway. LA Tech --and its fans-- have a choice: Go down to Baton Rouge and be Louisiana State's beeotch --just like every other school in Louisiana-- or stand up and be the one school that's materially different. LA Tech can be that one school that STATE fans say, "We always donkey stomp the Louisiana schools. Except for Tech. If Tech comes to town, we do have to bring our "A" game."

lsu has to start the year ranked. Have to make the games against Miami and Auburn compelling. And ranked teams playing ranked teams will boost the winner even if they don’t deserve it. I hope it all comes crashing down on them Sept 22.

LSU LB Tyler Taylor suspended after arrest for pawn shop burglary, might face felony charges

Have to wonder what are these kids thinking when the get caught up in this kind of behavior.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...da4f287ad.html

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Originally Posted by Mad Italian

LSU LB Tyler Taylor suspended after arrest for pawn shop burglary, might face felony charges

Have to wonder what are these kids thinking when the get caught up in this kind of behavior.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...da4f287ad.html

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Not thinking. A symptom of many people at the juco in BR.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

Blah, blah, blah. Some of you Louisiana folks depress me. That last paragraph you wrote was NOT your best work, D80.

No, we already know there's too many locals that think the way YOU do to believe anything material will really change long term with a Tech win in BR. But, that's not the point anyway. LA Tech --and its fans-- have a choice: Go down to Baton Rouge and be Louisiana State's beeotch --just like every other school in Louisiana-- or stand up and be the one school that's materially different. LA Tech can be that one school that STATE fans say, "We always donkey stomp the Louisiana schools. Except for Tech. If Tech comes to town, we do have to bring our "A" game."

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Sorry, I don't worship at the altar of lspoo. They are just another somewhat good SEC program. They get tons of talent, that's true, but they rarely realize the full potential. They lost at home to a belcher last year.

I'm not into moral victories either, so I don't need "STATE fans to say...." well, anything.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

We better be 2-0 when we roll into the Great Cesspool.

Don't think it will matter one bit, but Ed O hates Tech. He played for the NSU Demons "back in the day," and as is typical of that lot, feels obligated to hate us. I doubt his players will be motivated by his hatred though. How would this play: "Listen guys, as a player I was 0-4 against Tech. This is my chance to finally beat them guys." Most players today might react, "Gee, you guys really sucked, eh coach!"

No matter their record at the time of our game, or their record at the end of the season, I can say this, LSU is absolutely loaded with NFL-quality talent. They always are. They have the talent and athleticism to make individual plays that can change a game.

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And, they have a LOT of luck! Also, as usual, we will be playing against them and the officials!
Just once, before I die, I'd like to see LA TECH beat LSU in football. I don't care if it is only by one point!! That has been on my bucket list since 1966.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Sorry, I don't worship at the altar of lspoo. They are just another somewhat good SEC program. They get tons of talent, that's true, but they rarely realize the full potential. They lost at home to a belcher last year.

I'm not into moral victories either, so I don't need "STATE fans to say...." well, anything.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd2_LKoTYKw

Your posted videos, whatever they are, don't play for me. It's just a black square.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Your posted videos, whatever they are, don't play for me. It's just a black square.

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You have to be smart enough to click the little arrow. ;)

There is no little arrow. It's JUST a black square. Surely you're smart enough to understand that.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

Well regardless, "Mr Sunshine", why don't we try CRAMMING it down their damn throat this time and see how they like it anyway? Milk the sacred cow.

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HA! I know, right? For Tech fans, this would be...as someone said earlier...BUCKET LIST material, and I'd be crowing as loud as any of us! But i'm pretty sure, every excuse known to man would be given for the anointed school's loss. I have seen the perception of TECH out of state tends to be better than the impression overall in-state, so I hope a win against the Shoe would receive some good publicity.

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Originally Posted by ChuckK3

HA! I know, right? For Tech fans, this would be...as someone said earlier...BUCKET LIST material, and I'd be crowing as loud as any of us! But i'm pretty sure, every excuse known to man would be given for the anointed school's loss. I have seen the perception of TECH out of state tends to be better than the impression overall in-state, so I hope a win against the Shoe would receive some good publicity.

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If we beat LSU, Coach O will likely not last the season. I suspect that would be the go to excuse. It's built in.

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Originally Posted by detltu

If we beat LSU, Coach O will likely not last the season. I suspect that would be the go to excuse. It's built in.

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If we win LSU would likely be 1-3 at that point. Coach O will not last the weekend, if that is the case.

Looks like coach O got lots of retooling to do this season.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...8fa87ac11.html

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Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom

If we win LSU would likely be 1-3 at that point. Coach O will not last the weekend, if that is the case.

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I call that... Mercy.

Their biggest weakness seems to be crime IMHO.

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Originally Posted by SicemDawgz

Their biggest weakness seems to be crime IMHO.

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Does law enforcement assign the team their own Probation Officer?:laugh:

LSU lost 2 QBs yesterday and are now left with Myles Brennan and a Ohio State transfer

LSU, like Bama, has never had good QBs. LSU's last truly good one was Bert Jones. But, they manage to win without good QBs because they are so stacked with great athletes everywhere else.

I am hopeful our D is actually improved, and that we will see some of that D that showed up in Frisco throughout the season, including in BR. Otherwise, we might make their lousy QB look really good, as we have been prone to in the past.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

LSU, like Bama, has never had good QBs. LSU's last truly good one was Bert Jones. But, they manage to win without good QBs because they are so stacked with great athletes everywhere else.

I am hopeful our D is actually improved, and that we will see some of that D that showed up in Frisco throughout the season, including in BR. Otherwise, we might make their lousy QB look really good, as we have been prone to in the past.

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Our DB’s should be able to hold their own. The underneath stuff in front of our linebackers is what worries me.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

LSU, like Bama, has never had good QBs. LSU's last truly good one was Bert Jones. But, they manage to win without good QBs because they are so stacked with great athletes everywhere else.

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Matt Flynn was a good one and helped them win a national championship as I recall.

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Originally Posted by LaTechRandy

Matt Flynn was a good one and helped them win a national championship as I recall.

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Your definition of "good" is different than mine.

I know FAU is the favorite to win the conference this year, but if we plan to compete for a conference championship and even a division championship we need to find a way to win this game. Our division champs and conference champs have to show that they can hang with top 25 teams. If we feel like we are in that conversation we need to find a way to pull this out. We will need a few bounces which will be hard to come by playing against the refs.

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Originally Posted by detltu

I know FAU is the favorite to win the conference this year, but if we plan to compete for a conference championship and even a division championship we need to find a way to win this game. Our division champs and conference champs have to show that they can hang with top 25 teams. If we feel like we are in that conversation we need to find a way to pull this out. We will need a few bounces which will be hard to come by playing against the refs.

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The refs will probably be good for 10-14 points. If we are leading by less than 10 near the end of the game, Holtz will find a way to lose anyway. So we will need to be about 20-24 points better than they are if we want to win.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Your definition of "good" is different than mine.

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I would consider 19 for 27 with 4 TDs and the MVP of the BCS National Championship game to be good.

We should all be focused on Southern.

Edit: Oops! USA

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

We should all be focused on Southern.

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Why would we focus on the second game?

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Originally Posted by Tech52

Why would we focus on the second game?

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#AllGamesMatter
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Originally Posted by Tech52

Why would we focus on the second game?

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I changed the post.

I'm focused on USA.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

I changed the post.

I'm focused on USA.

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Yep, one game at a time!!! Let's not get ahead of ourselves! Remember several years ago when we lost to Northwestern State University?? That was a lesson learned!!!! NEVER, EVER do crap like that again!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by 70TECHGRAD

Yep, one game at a time!!! Let's not get ahead of ourselves! Remember several years ago when we lost to Northwestern State University?? That was a lesson learned!!!! NEVER, EVER do crap like that again!!!!!!!!

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Yes, fans should stay focused on the next game.

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Yes, fans should stay focused on the next game.

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Don’t you know all our energy is connected somewhere out there in the atmosphere. If we all collectively have a good attitude then the team will. If we all doubt then the team will. It’s like scientific and stuff.

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Originally Posted by LaTechRandy

I would consider 19 for 27 with 4 TDs and the MVP of the BCS National Championship game to be good.

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Alright, we have a big LSU fan amongst us. Good for you!

But...we still have a different definition of what makes for a good QB. Oh wait! you mean in comparison to all the truly crappy QBs they have had, Flynn was "good." Well, maybe, in that context.

I just watched the highlights of the game you referred to, the Ohio State game. Not impressed with Flynn. Managed the game okay. His TDs were to WIDE OPENED receivers. Pitch and catch. But, that's fine. If that impresses you....then...

LSU scrimmage yesterday: "It was a really rough day for the QBs statistically speaking. Burrow went 10-of-24 for 124 yards, one touchdown, and an interception. Brennan went 5-of-19 for 47 yards and an interception."

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Originally Posted by ChuckK3

We may beat them, but there is no way we win. The citizens of this state are incapable of the thought. Y'all keep it real...and remember what we are dealing with here.

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True, but I will wear my Tech gear with a little more swagger!:D:D

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Originally Posted by LaTechRandy

Matt Flynn was a good one and helped them win a national championship as I recall.

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And from Tyler, Texas.

Biggest weakness? I see two...

Ed Orgeron and the penal code.

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Originally Posted by RhinoDawg

Biggest weakness? I see two...

Ed Orgeron and the penal code.

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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

And from Tyler, Texas.

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Careful, you will get called a "big LSU fan"!

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Originally Posted by RhinoDawg

Biggest weakness? I see two...

Ed Orgeron and the penal code.

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Nailed it!!!

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Originally Posted by LaTechRandy

Careful, you will get called a "big LSU fan"!

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All on here know better. I hate the chiggers from Red Stick.