Over the use of the red block R on their helmets and elsewhere.
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Over the use of the red block R on their helmets and elsewhere.
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Freaking Yankees!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
My expertise is in trademarks. My question is where is the confusion? To get a win there must be a likelihood of confusion. To get any damages there must be actual confusion. Is their team so bad it could be confused with a high school team 2500 miles away?
The Bearcats offered to play them for all the rights to the R. Meet on the field of battle, and with honor! Realizing it was a Louisiana 5A school...Rutgers begged out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Houston Techsan
@coachab00: 4th time for me...Georgia Tech(Byrd)Wyoming(Swood)Notre Dame(NDesoto) and Rutgers...seems like brand loyalty 🤷🏼*♂️
@coachab00: Georgia Tech charged us $1.00 at Byrd for right to use logo...The others assume we are building indoor facilities with the profits...😂
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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
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Originally Posted by Houston Techsan
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Originally Posted by dawg80
Pompous elitist!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sportdawg
No doubt it is same exact logo. The problem is there are about 25000 high schools stealing logos. I have always wondered why more colleges and pro’s didn’t protect their property. Always thought it was kinda crappy, but feel for RHS in being one of the first to actually be called on it.
But again. It is a hundred percent rip off... I can’t blame the Yankees.
Seems like the stronger claim would be that of dilution under the Trademark Act, assuming Rutgers logo is actually a “famous” mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by Houston Techsan
I've always felt the Ruston logo and Rummel logo were very similar. I guess Rummel changed it just enough to be safe. http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/image...AAAElFTkSuQmCC
Of course had to go look at some pics, but Rummel's is squared off while Rutgers' is rounded.
https://www.rummelraiders.com/upload...008_1_orig.jpg
https://radioimg.s3.amazonaws.com/wc...d69706bad0d8f9
I know a little about trademarks, logos, etc... several entities I have worked for...and I assume this is true everywhere...had the codes for the colors, the exact dimensions for logos, etc... Of course my side of the business was marketing and they wanted consistency. So, it was never enough to have a green logo (one firm I worked for), oh no! It had a special name and a code for the other colors that went into making it that shade of green.
Never mind that I pointed out the company "green" still came out differently depending on the medium. Our nice polo shirts with the logo came out one shade, stationary, something else, and OMG! when we did Power Points or some other presentation medium, who knew how it would look!? And each time the order was placed using all those codes, but it just looked different on a cotton shirt vs. white paper vs. whatever!
Doesn't matter...Rutgers still sucks big time for doing this.
If it were college logo vs. college logo, yeah, pick the battle.
But, a college harassing rather than embracing a high school who provides future . . . college students. Not very good optics.
Oh, well, remember the time Tech (and all others desiring to have Dawgs as part of their vernacular) received the memo from UGA the bully (whose logo is so similar to an NFL team.
PS-If you use the University of West Monroe's WM logo to profit commercially, you might receive a $500 invoice from the high school if you didn't pony up the trademark fee first. Now that's big time!
University of Wisconsin went after The Woodlands High School here in the Houston area back in 2005 and 2007 because their "W" logo on helmets and school athletic apparel . Eventually, TWHS decided to alter their logo to avoid the cost to tax-payers putting up a legal fight even though they believed they did not infringe or intend to infringe.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportdawg
I guess the biggest stink about it all is the belief someone somewhere else profiting by selling high school apparel with what one university thinks is their logo or very close to their logo.
If this is true, someone needs to call channel 3 in Shreveport and let them investigate!Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
And which of those schools caved to the bully?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgpix
I'm surprised this hasn't happened with fight songs.
Similar issue, but that is copyrights rather than trademarks.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpaceDawg
I wonder if the R is in some form of standard type and if that would make any difference.
And I still use the term "Dawgs" all the time. I don't think they can do anything about fans using it. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
Can’t they do an agreement where Ruston pays them $1 a year and everyone wins? Ruston continues using the logo without any problems and Rutgers protects their trademarks. Isn’t that what NFL teams do?
I've always been interested in the "G" used by the Green Bay Packers, the University of Georgia, and of course Grambling. Here's the story according to Wikapeida:
"The team (Packers) used a number of different logos prior to 1961, but the "G" is the only logo that has ever appeared on the helmet.[83][84] The Packers hold the trademark on the "G" logo, and have granted limited permission to other organizations to utilize a similar logo, such as the University of Georgia and Grambling State University, in addition to the city of Green Bay itself as part of its civic logo.[85] Adopted in 1964, the Georgia "G", though different in design and color, was similar to the Packers' "G". Then-Georgia head coach Vince Dooley thought it best to clear the use of Georgia's new emblem with the Packers.[86]"
The same thing happened to Abilene Cooper High School with Washington State University. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2007/dec/14/cougars-force-west-texas-high-school-to-sack-logo/
"A high school in West Texas will have to dump its school logo because it’s too similar to the Washington State University Cougar.Cooper High School probably will spend tens of thousands of dollars to replace the cougar head that has adorned its uniforms, scoreboards, gym floors, hallways and student IDs for more than 15 years, ..."
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAe52IiX...pg&name=medium
Count the college logos.
Wyoming sure Mcneese a few years ago
Ruston high should hire our AD to fend them off like he did at McNeese. He is such a tough deal kind of guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by TechDAG
Saw lots of nice red Winnfield W's this weekend. I wonder if Wisconsin will come after them.
Ruston has played about as good as Rutgers ever since they started using the "R" logo. They didn't have a logo at all when they won all of those state championships or when they were ranked #1 in the nation in 1988 and #2 in 1990.
Ditch the logo!
Speaking of that, did any of those RHS guys go on to Tech? Or did they go SEC? I wasn’t born yet but was always interested in it. In middle school we played Ruston and I noticed their scoreboard with their accomplishments and was kinda blown away.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrongBad
Fred Dean and Johnny Robinson played for RHS, La Tech, and the NFL. Kentrell Brice didn't play during that era, but has been successful. He plays for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers now. Justin Rockett committed to LSU, but changed to La Tech. I don't think he ever played. Dude was 6' 8" and weighed in over 400 lbs. I'm not sure what happened with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixonfor6
Coach Billy Laird was a quarterback at La Tech. Coach Chick Childress earned his masters degree from La Tech. Unfortunately, Tech wasn't Division I-A until 1989, and wasn't pulling 3+ star recruits until after RHS' heyday.
Tech was I-A for Johnny Robinson's entire career (1977-80) after moving up in 1975. Matt Dunigan's career is counted as I-A since 1982 was the only year he played in I-AA.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrongBad
Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but Tech was in the Southland Conference from 1971–1986. I don't recall that conference ever being Division I-A. Please enlighten me with citations.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
Division I separated into Division I-A (the predecessor to the FBS) and I-AA (predecessor of the FCS) prior to the 1978 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by StrongBad
1978-1981 SLC was 1-A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_N...rogram_changes
1982 SLC dropped to 1-AAQuote:
This was the first season the Ivy League, Southern Conference, and Southland Conference competed at the I-AA (FCS) level.[7] Southwestern Louisiana] was the only team from those three conferences to remain in Division I-A, becoming an independent.
- Ivy League — Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Pennsylvania, Princeton, and Yale
- Southern Conference — Appalachian State, Chattanooga, East Tennessee State, Furman, Marshall, The Citadel, VMI, and Western Carolina
- Southland Conference — Arkansas State, Lamar, Louisiana Tech, McNeese State, and Texas–Arlington
- Southwestern Louisiana, who had been a member of the Southland during the 1981 season, remained in Division I-A as an Independent. The school was renamed the University of Louisiana at Lafayette in 1999.
Just curious, but 1A was not called 1A until there was a 1AA right? Before that it was division 1 which confuses many Tech fans who have forgotten that we played in two division 1 bowl games in the 70s when there were only 11 or 12 bowl games total. Many of our fans are as confused about our "1A" history as they are about powder blue being on of our original colors.:icon_razz:
That is COLUMBIA blue sir, and it was worn since 1894... beginning with Harry HowardQuote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
More specifically for that era and to the best of my recollection, one of the three '80's state champ teams had no players go on to play at "major" colleges and that was a source of pride for Childress (state champ with no superstars). The '90 team was loaded, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixonfor6
Rodney Young - LSU and NY Giants
Bobby Williams - LSU
Roymon Malcom - Auburn
Charles Green - Nebraska
Brad Laird - NSU
Marsh Buice - McNeese
There may have been more but I can't remember.
I also may be forgetting a few but here are some additions to that 90 list. A few of these guys were Jrs on the all-world 90 team but signed as Seniors.
John Carr, WR Tech
Bryan Houston DT, ulm
Young, OL Grambling
Bonner Seamans, OL Northwestern State
Shane Coleman, OL SAU
Ron Ainsworth, DS Tech
I learned something new. I'm not sure how any of it is relevant to what I said originally. Tech simply wasn't pulling 3+ star recruits like they do now. That was the gist of what I was saying all this other stuff is trivial.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportdawg
Rutgers Logo/Old Ruston
http://www.imglearfieldticketsolutio...ers-R-Logo.png
New Ruston Logo
https://www.rustonleader.com/sites/r...?itok=eyjy6Zf4
I think the New logo would have been better off w/o the Serifs. It would look sharp with the rounded edges. I'm guessing someone has that already trademarked and they wanted something that was uniquely theirs.
They now have 10 years to stop using the Rutgers logo.
BTW there was no lawsuit and our friends at Learfield, though not the Tech office, were in the middle of this ridiculous exchange.
And before the Division I split into I-A and I-AA, all Division I records count toward what is now FBS (what was I-A). The Southland Conference was in Division I starting in 1975 when Tech moved up from Division II.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportdawg
Met a guy today that is a Rutgers alum. We discussed schools a bit and I brought up the tornado & Ruston High "R" thing.
He couldn't believe his school took a high school to task on the logo. He didn't think anyone would confuse a high school in Louisiana with a university in New Jersey regardless the logo. The cease & desist was out of line but he guessed he wasn't surprised by the school's admin.
Here's a good essay from Marquette Sports Law https://scholarship.law.marquette.ed...sist%20logo%22Quote:
Originally Posted by tenacious_dog
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In El Paso, New Mexico, Cathedral High School had been known as the Fighting Irish in the community for eighty-six years. Eighty-six years! Now they will just be known as the Irish.
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Wisconsin has asked nearly forty schools in over two dozen states to stop using its logo and phase out its use on Web sites, uniforms and elsewhere.