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CUSA Regionalization concept would realign teams in AAC, Conference USA, Sun Belt
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/regionalization-concept-that-would-realign-teams-in-aac-conference-usa-sun-belt-to-be-presented-monday/
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Desperate times/desperate measures?
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"Just one example of how this could work would be a 12-team Southwest league that would include these teams from Texas and Louisiana: Arkansas State, Louisiana, Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, Rice, SMU, Texas State, Tulane, UTEP and UTSA."
ULM just doesnt belong in FBS.
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We are what our leaders have made us. Time for something different than this silly CUSA thing with the woke commissioner selection. Our attendance would go up by 50% in year one with this 12 team SW league.
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I could hold my nose and get on board w that. (Would want an ongoing ooc H&H w USM though)
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qng001
"Just one example of how this could work would be a 12-team Southwest league that would include these teams from Texas and Louisiana: Arkansas State, Louisiana, Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, Rice, SMU, Texas State, Tulane, UTEP and UTSA."
ULM just doesnt belong in FBS.
Tulane and SMU would drop football before agreeing to be in a league like this. Not that either is particularly good in sports, especially football, just that they think they belong in loftier company.
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qng001
"Just one example of how this could work would be a 12-team Southwest league that would include these teams from Texas and Louisiana: Arkansas State, Louisiana, Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, Rice, SMU, Texas State, Tulane, UTEP and UTSA."
ULM just doesnt belong in FBS.
And there seems to be a "-Lafayette" missing.
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qng001
"Just one example of how this could work would be a 12-team Southwest league that would include these teams from Texas and Louisiana: Arkansas State, Louisiana, Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, Rice, SMU, Texas State, Tulane, UTEP and UTSA."
ULM just doesn't belong in FBS.
Where's USM and Tulsa in this lineup?
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PawDawg
We are what our leaders have made us. Time for something different than this silly CUSA thing with the woke commissioner selection. Our attendance would go up by 50% in year one with this 12 team SW league.
Just hang on. Let's see what happens.
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HogDawg
Just hang on. Let's see what happens.
I’ll start “hanging on” when I see leaders who do what they are paid to do. Right now they are peeing down our leg and telling us it is raining. I’m 60+ years old and tired of illiterate 30 year old dip shits giving me BS
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PawDawg
We are what our leaders have made us. Time for something different than this silly CUSA thing with the woke commissioner selection. Our attendance would go up by 50% in year one with this 12 team SW league.
Who is 12th team and who is Louisiana?
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PawDawg
I’ll start “hanging on” when I see leaders who do what they are paid to do. Right now they are peeing down our leg and telling us it is raining. I’m 60+ years old and tired of illiterate 30 year old dip shits giving me BS
Man, we are relics
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stodgdog
Man, we are relics
no we are realistic and both know we are MUCH closer to the old Southland than the proposed ANYTHING
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DawgyNWindow
And there seems to be a "-Lafayette" missing.
The Leopards? They would be a good addition. Who is Louisiana though?
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qng001
"Just one example of how this could work would be a 12-team Southwest league that would include these teams from Texas and Louisiana: Arkansas State, Louisiana, Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, Rice, SMU, Texas State, Tulane, UTEP and UTSA."
ULM just doesnt belong in FBS.
How does ULM manage to stay in FBS?
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SicemDawgz
How does ULM manage to stay in FBS?
They would be a perfect fit for the weak-azz CUSA East!
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Standard responses from league commissioners. Will be interesting to see what school presidents have to say. Shriveling CUSA trying to stay relevant.
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BCSDAWG
Standard responses from league commissioners. Will be interesting to see what school presidents have to say. Shriveling CUSA trying to stay relevant.
Time to put our university ahead of CUSA. We may have leverage with Judy, but not with the real movers and shakers in college athletics.
The "separation" thing is never going to happen for us in Louisiana. Been waiting for 4 decades. We are going backwards in everything other than baseball.
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Not thinking big enough.... That is all I will say. Also, being in a conference with ULL or ULM would be a disaster. I would much rather see us make an all out play to get in the AAC and forget aligning with Sun Belt schools. Yeah, they did okay last year and are decent this year. The key is overall program and conference perception, though. When it comes to that, the Belt is still the Belt. Just say no... Once we are associated with them, it is all over. We can have a bad year or two, but a good year in the belt is still just a good year in the belt.
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champion110
Not thinking big enough.... That is all I will say. Also, being in a conference with ULL or ULM would be a disaster. I would much rather see us make an all out play to get in the AAC and forget aligning with Sun Belt schools. Yeah, they did okay last year and are decent this year. The key is overall program and conference perception, though. When it comes to that, the Belt is still the Belt. Just say no... Once we are associated with them, it is all over. We can have a bad year or two, but a good year in the belt is still just a good year in the belt.
What makes you think we have a chance for the AAC? Our leadership? Our giving? Our stuff? Our brand? Seriously, other than our loyalty, what do we have to hang our hat on?
The silence from our leaders regarding the AAC situation says it all.
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What is TECH really made of? I think we’re about to see.
In the epic immortal words of Debby Harry of Blondie: “One Way Or Another”
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PawDawg
Time to put our university ahead of CUSA. We may have leverage with Judy, but not with the real movers and shakers in college athletics.
The "separation" thing is never going to happen for us in Louisiana. Been waiting for 4 decades. We are going backwards in everything other than baseball.
I don't think we're "going backwards" with basketball.
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SicemDawgz
How does ULM manage to stay in FBS?
Still a sleeping giant.
Just wait....and wait....and wait....and wait. You'll see.
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Another POV? The whole CFB world is telling CUSA “stuff it!” We are the worst league in FBS and have no leverage in negotiating with other conferences.
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boxerdog
I don't think we're "going backwards" with basketball.
IDK. We been "so close" for so many years going back to Michael "the choker" White, I can't keep up. Anything less than an NCAA bid is indeed going backwards.
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PawDawg
Time to put our university ahead of CUSA. We may have leverage with Judy, but not with the real movers and shakers in college athletics.
The "separation" thing is never going to happen for us in Louisiana. Been waiting for 4 decades. We are going backwards in everything other than baseball.
So, what do you want done strategically that's not already being pursued?
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HogDawg
So, what do you want done strategically that's not already being pursued?
We can't handle the little things like getting baseball tickets tended to. Sorry if I don't expect our leadership to succeed in improving our position in the pecking order of AAC candidates.
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PawDawg
We can't handle the little things like getting baseball tickets tended to. Sorry if I don't expect our leadership to succeed in improving our position in the pecking order of AAC candidates.
Well, we should find out something in the next week or so about our AAC chances.
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PawDawg
IDK. We been "so close" for so many years going back to Michael "the choker" White, I can't keep up. Anything less than an NCAA bid is indeed going backwards.
Big season for us this year. I'm hopeful--even bought season tickets for the first time in a while.
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Here’s to hoping for the AAC.
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G5 mega conference that takes over scheduling negotiations is an interesting concept. Will never happen, but that kind of negotiating power could make sure the G5 has a representative in a 12-team CFP.
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johnnylightnin
G5 mega conference that takes over scheduling negotiations is an interesting concept. Will never happen, but that kind of negotiating power could make sure the G5 has a representative in a 12-team CFP.
There has to be a 12-team CFP before there can be a representative. No guarantee of 12 now, may not get over 8.
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FriscoDawg
There has to be a 12-team CFP before there can be a representative. No guarantee of 12 now, may not get over 8.
A unified G5 can push for that too.
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Festus
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/regionalization-concept-that-would-realign-teams-in-aac-conference-usa-sun-belt-to-be-presented-monday/
Too many around social media are completely misreading this
This isn't a CUSA idea being proposed to the other leagues.
Just go back to the column written by ODU's beat writer a few months ago. This is 2 consultants hired by ODU's president, essentially to tell him what he wants to hear, putting this in front of CUSA's presidents.
It's being pushed by ODU and Marshall. How many other CUSA presidents go for it? We'll see.
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Originally Posted by
The Historian
Too many around social media are completely misreading this
This isn't a CUSA idea being proposed to the other leagues.
Just go back to the column written by ODU's beat writer a few months ago. This is 2 consultants hired by ODU's president, essentially to tell him what he wants to hear, putting this in front of CUSA's presidents.
It's being pushed by ODU and Marshall. How many other CUSA presidents go for it? We'll see.
Dr. Wood said on the radio that he thought if all the G5 schools were in a room with clear slates, he thought things would go much more regionally. But I'm skeptical of this.
I guess it's all those years in the WAC (and being more or less in the center of the division, if not the conference) but I'm just completely under-whelmed by all the complaining about travel in CUSA. The timing of this when the conference looks to have such little leverage (whether that's true or not) is also contributing to the twitter reaction.
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inudesu
Dr. Wood said on the radio that he thought if all the G5 schools were in a room with clear slates, he thought things would go much more regionally. But I'm skeptical of this.
I wonder does this include AAC members. I highly doubt USF wants to be in a conference with FIU, or anyone with ULM. I think in general, 80% of G5 schools would be interested in more geographical realignment, but that other 20% will hold it back due to egos or just pure disdain for other schools.
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Dawgonit
I wonder does this include AAC members. I highly doubt USF wants to be in a conference with FIU, or anyone with ULM. I think in general, 80% of G5 schools would be interested in more geographical realignment, but that other 20% will hold it back due to egos or just pure disdain for other schools.
I agree. The AAC and MWC hold all the cards.
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PawDawg
I agree. The AAC and MWC hold all the cards.
And The MAC is the MAC. Not particularly strong, but they are compact geographically (for the most part) so at least they check that box. They are okay not holding any cards.
The Belch, right now, is riding the wave of some recent success. But, The Belch is the Belch and hold no cards either, nationally. Coastal Carolina and maybe one other will be poached and the Belch will once again be a nothing league.
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Dawgonit
I wonder does this include AAC members. I highly doubt USF wants to be in a conference with FIU, or anyone with ULM. I think in general, 80% of G5 schools would be interested in more geographical realignment, but that other 20% will hold it back due to egos or just pure disdain for other schools.
They know the AAC isn't interested. Their goal is to try to drum up at least half the CUSA presidents to support it. They'll then approach the Sun Belt presidents.
Again, this is being driven by ODU and Marshall. They want the merger of the 2 leagues and then an east/west split. The east will keep the CUSA name, of course.
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Dawgonit
I wonder does this include AAC members. I highly doubt USF wants to be in a conference with FIU, or anyone with ULM. I think in general, 80% of G5 schools would be interested in more geographical realignment, but that other 20% will hold it back due to egos or just pure disdain for other schools.
Exactly. This whole idea is stupid. Why would the AAC ever give up the leverage it has over the other two conferences? Answer is, they won't! The AAC schools have much bigger athletic budgets than both the CUSA schools and the Sunbelt schools. They also make a lot more money ($7M annually) from their ESPN TV contract than either of the other conferences. Why would they give that up? Yes, that amount will go down a bit with the loss of Houston, Cincinnati and UCF to the Big XII, but it won't go all the way down to the Sunbelts 500K level or CUSA's 200K (or whatever).
And why would the Sunbelt give up the leverage it will eventually have once CUSA has been poached, raided and plundered, with nothings left but smoke? Once the AAC finishes poaching who they want from CUSA, the Sunbelt will do the same by picking from what's left of the carcass.
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….As it stands now the Sunbelt wants to drop UTA and LR…..add UTSA and USM to the West and UAB and MARSHALL TO THE East….this would be 5 presently potential top30-40 schools in football with some schools with qualified past accomplishments……this puts the Sunbelt as the #1 G-5 as the AAC loses their best teams!
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exflash
….As it stands now the Sunbelt wants to drop UTA and LR…..add UTSA and USM to the West and UAB and MARSHALL TO THE East….this would be 5 presently potential top30-40 schools in football with some schools with qualified past accomplishments……this puts the Sunbelt as the #1 G-5 as the AAC loses their best teams!
We certainly made that bed with our former AD’s superior attitude. Brilliant move by the Sunbelt
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exflash
….As it stands now the Sunbelt wants to drop UTA and LR…..add UTSA and USM to the West and UAB and MARSHALL TO THE East….this would be 5 presently potential top30-40 schools in football with some schools with qualified past accomplishments……this puts the Sunbelt as the #1 G-5 as the AAC loses their best teams!
This is what the Sun Belt wants to do. Not exactly what the school involved want to do.
Do you think UAB wants to go Sun Belt if they have an offer from the AAC? Do you think UTSA would go Sun Belt before they would go to the MWC?
Chuck Landon, who covers Marshall, said last week that Marshall was in talks with the AAC. Would Marshall go Sun Belt before AAC?
And Southern Miss is a total train wreck right now. Do you really want them?
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The Historian
This is what the Sun Belt wants to do. Not exactly what the school involved want to do.
Do you think UAB wants to go Sun Belt if they have an offer from the AAC? Do you think UTSA would go Sun Belt before they would go to the MWC?
Chuck Landon, who covers Marshall, said last week that Marshall was in talks with the AAC. Would Marshall go Sun Belt before AAC?
And Southern Miss is a total train wreck right now. Do you really want them?
LaTech is “bad orange man” to the Sunbelt. That’s all that really matters
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I don’t see why UTSA would want to lose associations with Rice, UNT, Tech for Texas State and ULL?
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I could see USM and UAB preferring to be in a more regional conference with ULL, USA, Troy.
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exflash
….As it stands now the Sunbelt wants to drop UTA and LR…..add UTSA and USM to the West and UAB and MARSHALL TO THE East….this would be 5 presently potential top30-40 schools in football with some schools with qualified past accomplishments……this puts the Sunbelt as the #1 G-5 as the AAC loses their best teams!
....and LA Tech wants to join the SEC. Both scenarios have an equal chance of happening. :icon_roll:
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Dawgonit
I wonder does this include AAC members. I highly doubt USF wants to be in a conference with FIU, or anyone with ULM. I think in general, 80% of G5 schools would be interested in more geographical realignment, but that other 20% will hold it back due to egos or just pure disdain for other schools.
Do you think the fans have more disdain for the UL-L and UL-M than Guice and Wood do?
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CUSA sent a formal request to the AAC to merge. Sunbelt would be completely left out if it were to happen. In theory we would get all the goodies but that ain't happening. This is a last ditch effort by Judy to save the conference.
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KSDAWG
CUSA sent a formal request to the AAC to merge. Sunbelt would be completely left out if it were to happen. In theory we would get all the goodies but that ain't happening. This is a last ditch effort by Judy to save the conference AND HER JOB.
Fixed
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kfj
Do you think the fans have more disdain for the UL-L and UL-M than Guice and Wood do?
Disdain in sports is part of the fun. I'm not sure our leaders care much about disdain, but fans do.
I was once in the crowd of don't play them at all. That approach didn't work. Other than Southern Miss, we have no rivals in C-USA. No disdain = no fun.
I'm ready for some disdain.:furious3:
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Why on earth would AAC take this deal?
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Blue Dawg
Why on earth would AAC take this deal?
They won't.
If you're selling this, the pitch is that SMU doesn't really get much out of playing ECU/Temple/USF. And vice versa. So why not just play a bunch of local schools (the money won't be any better, but the travel costs and maybe ticket sales would improve)?
But we know about this argument. We've lived this. So we also know how it's likely to go.
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Blue Dawg
Why on earth would AAC take this deal?
Maybe there's something else the ADs & Presidents know, but fans and press havent heard?
Maybe a reliable prediction that the TV revenue bubble is about to burst, and now's the time to re-focus on attendance and travel costs?
But I'm just spitballing here. Unless there's some other shoe to drop, AAC presidents will listen to the pitch as professional courtesy and that'll be the end of it.
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Champ967
Maybe there's something else the ADs & Presidents know, but fans and press havent heard?
Maybe a reliable prediction that the TV revenue bubble is about to burst, and now's the time to re-focus on attendance and travel costs?
But I'm just spitballing here. Unless there's some other shoe to drop, AAC presidents will listen to the pitch as professional courtesy and that'll be the end of it.
That's certainly possible. Just don't see on our end what we have that they would want. In some cases, they would want to actively avoid.
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At the risk of upsetting JL… This is Very embarrassing
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When you suck, you suck at everything and in every way. Tech’s mismanagement of their programs isn’t going to be miraculously healed by some fanciful conference shuffle. Tech has to earn being wanted and the best way to be wanted is to beat peoples asses. Believe it or not people want to be the sidekick of the bad ass. When you don’t make happen what you want nobody is going to come along and just give it to you. This libtard BS approach to everything including sports is simply a disaster looking for a place to crash and burn.
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PawDawg
At the risk of upsetting JL… This is Very embarrassing
Ha!
So you’re the one that pitched this to Judy?
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Blue Dawg
Why on earth would AAC take this deal?
Because I just heard TONIGHT, that the MWC is in serious talks with UTSA about joining. Speculation is that UNT and Rice are too. Defending their position as the top G5 conference might just force the AAC to make a proactive move like this.
Let's be clear: if CUSA loses 3 Texas teams to the MWC, that will NOT be good for LA Tech athletics. We recruit Texas heavily. Very heavily. Butts better start puckering in Ruston right now.........
This is about a "tug-a-war" between the MWC and the AAC for Texas markets, and the "tallest midget" award (as well as the best TV contract) in the G5.
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HogDawg
Because I just heard TONIGHT, that the MWC is in serious talks with UTSA about joining. Speculation is that UNT and Rice are too. Defending their position as the top G5 conference might just force the AAC to make a proactive move like this.
Let's be clear: if CUSA loses 3 Texas teams to the MWC, that will NOT be good for LA Tech athletics. We recruit Texas heavily. Very heavily. Butts better start puckering in Ruston right now.........
This is about a "tug-a-war" between the MWC and the AAC for Texas markets, and the "tallest midget" award (as well as the best TV contract) in the G5.
If Tech and Southern Miss are not in VERY serious talks with the AAC right now, it is probably too late. I believe Tech and Southern Miss have to team up on this. UAB and Marshall are the only two name schools that can compete for 2 spots. I think Marshall would be happy to head to the Belt or Mac, though. Fine by me. All the other CUSA teams are regional teams without name recognition. If we get beat out by them, it is only because we didn't sell ourselves enough.
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While I agree being in a conference with Texas schools is generally good for Tech, I will remind everyone we have seen this act before. When the EWAC abandoned us we were left on an island with ZERO Texas conference mates, and all Sonny Dykes did was build a pretty good football team, 2011 & 2012. So, it's not the end of the world if Tech loses conference connections to Texas.
That said, yes, I prefer to have Texas conference mates. Probably means more for the minor sports than it does for football and men's hoops.
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Boca is closer than El Paso (almost) with no baseball. UTEP has never been a plus for a conference mate.
UNT w/out baseball is so so, but an easy drive. They have about as much of the Metroplex market as Dallas Baptist.
Rice and UTSA are in huge markets. We might actually get a few positive hits from playing them.
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PawDawg
Boca is closer than El Paso (almost) with no baseball. UTEP has never been a plus for a conference mate.
UNT w/out baseball is so so, but an easy drive. They have about as much of the Metroplex market as Dallas Baptist.
Rice and UTSA are in huge markets. We might actually get a few positive hits from playing them.
I agree that Rice and UTSA are in big markets, but I look at their attendance (haven't seen their tv ratings) and I just don't get the appeal of big market "locations". For UTSA, they will always be a little brother of UT. As much as lsu dominates Louisiana, we are not their little brother at least. Same for Southern Miss. MState and Ole Miss dominate the markets in Mississippi, but Southern Miss has their own following. UTSA and North Texas just are not appealing to me. Just my opinion, though. I am good with Rice, not because they have an awesome football team, but because they have a name and academics. People all over the country know their name. UTSA and UNT are not known nationally. And, before you say it, Louisiana Tech IS known nationally (at least the name). They may not know where we are located, but they have heard the name. Same for Southern Miss, Tulsa, etc... A name is everything these days, not the potential market size. Potential unrealized will not help in attendance or tv audience. Saying that, if anyone knows the tv viewership of G5 schools ranked, I would probably jump at a chance to be in a conference with the top 10 in that group. IF that includes UNT, UTSA, etc..., I will gladly change my mind.
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
Because I just heard TONIGHT, that the MWC is in serious talks with UTSA about joining. Speculation is that UNT and Rice are too. Defending their position as the top G5 conference might just force the AAC to make a proactive move like this.
Let's be clear: if CUSA loses 3 Texas teams to the MWC, that will NOT be good for LA Tech athletics. We recruit Texas heavily. Very heavily. Butts better start puckering in Ruston right now.........
This is about a "tug-a-war" between the MWC and the AAC for Texas markets, and the "tallest midget" award (as well as the best TV contract) in the G5.
UTSA and UNT have been talking to the MWC for the past month (or more).
It stems from the fact neither is likely getting into the AAC.
UNT doesn't have baseball and is in SMU's backyard.
UTSA doesn't have adequate facilities in baseball and basketball and isn't competitive in either sport. They also don't have the resources to address either issue.
As for Rice, their administration isn't committed to fixing their football facility or addressing the competitive levels of its football and basketball programs. Where they're headed is kind of up in the air.
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Originally Posted by
The Historian
UTSA and UNT have been talking to the MWC for the past month (or more).
It stems from the fact neither is likely getting into the AAC.
UNT doesn't have baseball and is in SMU's backyard.
UTSA doesn't have adequate facilities in baseball and basketball and isn't competitive in either sport. They also don't have the resources to address either issue.
As for Rice, their administration isn't committed to fixing their football facility or addressing the competitive levels of its football and basketball programs. Where they're headed is kind of up in the air.
I have a feeling our AD has been burning the midnight oil on this. Y'all, this could be HUGE for Tech. We need to support Dr. Wood as much as possible right now.
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Originally Posted by
ChuckK3
I have a feeling our AD has been burning the midnight oil on this. Y'all, this could be HUGE for Tech. We need to support Dr. Wood as much as possible right now.
I'd love for him to surprise us all.
I'd be tickled shirtless for all my cyncism about this to be proven unfounded.
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Originally Posted by
ChuckK3
I have a feeling our AD has been burning the midnight oil on this. Y'all, this could be HUGE for Tech. We need to support Dr. Wood as much as possible right now.
This is sarcasm, right?
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Amos Moses
This is sarcasm, right?
Nope.
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Originally Posted by
ChuckK3
I have a feeling our AD has been burning the midnight oil on this. Y'all, this could be HUGE for Tech. We need to support Dr. Wood as much as possible right now.
I think we are dead in the water...
Looks like nothing more than a desperate plea in desperate times...
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Don't let years of letdowns get in the way of hope. Dr. Wood is a different kind of AD than we have had before. He is a Derrick Dooley with personality and kindness. If we don't get into the AAC it wouldn't be for lack of leadership.
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Originally Posted by
KSDAWG
Don't let years of letdowns get in the way of hope. Dr. Wood is a different kind of AD than we have had before. He is a Derrick Dooley with personality and kindness. If we don't get into the AAC it wouldn't be for lack of leadership.
He has dropped the ball on the baseball ticket fiasco in a huge way.
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
He has dropped the ball on the baseball ticket fiasco in a huge way.
The fact that you are hung up on a "ticket fiasco" is down right hilarious. The guy finagles a regional in Ruston and you aren't happy. You are that fat old lady walking down the street with a ham under one arm complaining about being too poor to buy bread. Wake the hell up and realize that you can't complain about every silly stupid thing and expect anyone to take you seriously. We are in the thick of this and for once we got good leadership doing the best they can to try and fix decades of bad leadership. Tech ain't perfect but this round of realignment may have proven our instincts correct. Just watch it play out.
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Originally Posted by
KSDAWG
The fact that you are hung up on a "ticket fiasco" is down right hilarious. The guy finagles a regional in Ruston and you aren't happy. You are that fat old lady walking down the street with a ham under one arm complaining about being too poor to buy bread. Wake the hell up and realize that you can't complain about every silly stupid thing and expect anyone to take you seriously. We are in the thick of this and for once we got good leadership doing the best they can to try and fix decades of bad leadership. Tech ain't perfect but this round of realignment may have proven our instincts correct. Just watch it play out.
Who told you he put the regional thing together? All the stars aligned to make that happen. He simply did what he is getting paid to do. Nothing "extra".
Apparently the ticket thing is stupid to you because you have no interest or don't understand what is happening. It is indeed stupid, but it's has been handled stupidly by those you claim are so great. Hopefully that greatness will rub off on football attendance.
IMO, this ticket fiasco is his first strike. He is screwing up the ONLY thing in his department that is working well on its own.
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What are y'all seeing to convince you this AD is so much different? Serious question.
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Originally Posted by
KSDAWG
Don't let years of letdowns get in the way of hope. Dr. Wood is a different kind of AD than we have had before. He is a Derrick Dooley with personality and kindness. If we don't get into the AAC it wouldn't be for lack of leadership.
The movers and shakers I personally know are resigned to the fact we are probably getting hung out to dry...
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This entire concept / report is embarrassing and I hope that Tech is in no way involved.
We need to look west again and get back with our old WAC friends.
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Originally Posted by
Dwayne From Minden
The movers and shakers I personally know are resigned to the fact we are probably getting hung out to dry...
Goes to my earlier post - the sunbelt schools want to make us pay since we have never been a football member is the SBC.
I miss Fresno, Utah, Boise, Nevada, Hawaii….even though we were way out East, we had some damn good on the field / on the court battles.
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Originally Posted by
ChuckK3
I have a feeling our AD has been burning the midnight oil on this. Y'all, this could be HUGE for Tech. We need to support Dr. Wood as much as possible right now.
As usual, good and positive thoughts from you. Watch out for the nay sayers
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Originally Posted by
Bone_afide_Dawg
When you suck, you suck at everything and in every way. Tech’s mismanagement of their programs isn’t going to be miraculously healed by some fanciful conference shuffle. Tech has to earn being wanted and the best way to be wanted is to beat peoples asses. Believe it or not people want to be the sidekick of the bad ass. When you don’t make happen what you want nobody is going to come along and just give it to you. This libtard BS approach to everything including sports is simply a disaster looking for a place to crash and burn.
i agree.
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Blue Dawg
What are y'all seeing to convince you this AD is so much different? Serious question.
My thoughts are known, Why are we still employing Tmac's policies.
until we change them, effectively Tommy is running the show.
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Gladzilla
My thoughts are known, Why are we still employing Tmac's policies.
until we change them, effectively Tommy is running the show.
My guess is that somebody above TMac is who actually set those policies.
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Originally Posted by
KSDAWG
The fact that you are hung up on a "ticket fiasco" is down right hilarious. The guy finagles a regional in Ruston and you aren't happy. You are that fat old lady walking down the street with a ham under one arm complaining about being too poor to buy bread. Wake the hell up and realize that you can't complain about every silly stupid thing and expect anyone to take you seriously. We are in the thick of this and for once we got good leadership doing the best they can to try and fix decades of bad leadership. Tech ain't perfect but this round of realignment may have proven our instincts correct. Just watch it play out.
PD is a great guy with a great family and professional life. He is trying to keep his worldview balanced.
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
Who told you he put the regional thing together? All the stars aligned to make that happen. He simply did what he is getting paid to do. Nothing "extra".
Apparently the ticket thing is stupid to you because you have no interest or don't understand what is happening. It is indeed stupid, but it's has been handled stupidly by those you claim are so great. Hopefully that greatness will rub off on football attendance.
IMO, this ticket fiasco is his first strike. He is screwing up the ONLY thing in his department that is working well on its own.
What happened withe ticket thing?
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Originally Posted by
stodgdog
What happened withe ticket thing?
Check out the baseball section.
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Gladzilla
i agree.
Were Tech fortunate enough to join th AAC I think it would benefit the conference and our school. We have been an asset everywhere we have been and hurt badly when the conference changes. We always held up our end and will continue to do so. We need and deserve a positive break and stability in conference quality
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PawDawg
Check out the baseball section.
Can't you brief me?
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stodgdog
Can't you brief me?
I think I can give a synopsys:
Fat Cats push out alley cats.
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Blue Dawg
What are y'all seeing to convince you this AD is so much different? Serious question.
From my perspective, Dr.Woods comes across as a tactful, servant-leader type who intentionally connects with the broad fanbase. I'm just a normal fan who attends multiple games. 3 times he has personally thanked me for attending a sporting event. First time was at a basketball game and he came and sat down on our row and thanked my daughters and their friend along with my wife and myself for coming out. I think he asked where we were from and sat beside us for a few minutes just because he wanted to meet us. Second time was at a baseball game (can't remember if it was Southern Miss or the NC State regional) and he reached out and shook my hand, saying he was glad to see me there. Third time was at the SMU football game. He was walking up the stairs and thanked my entire group for coming out. He's different in that way for sure. I also imagine he's probably fairly connected due his work at Arkansas and UCF. I'm not sure how long he'll be at Tech but I find him to be very personable and I'm proud to have him as our AD.
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Originally Posted by
Dwayne From Minden
The movers and shakers I personally know are resigned to the fact we are probably getting hung out to dry...
That's not what I'm hearing. First of all, I can promise you that most of the "shakers and movers" at LA Tech are totally clueless about what's going on with the AAC application. Only a very few people know anything about it. I've never seen Tech's leadership keep anything under wraps as well as they have this particular application. Don't mistake the quietness for inactivity. Tech may or may not receive an invite to the AAC, but I do know we have submitted a very strong application, and the AAC door was NOT slammed in our face.
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
That's not what I'm hearing. First of all, I can promise you that most of the "shakers and movers" at LA Tech are totally clueless about what's going on with the AAC application. Only a very few people know anything about it. I've never seen Tech's leadership keep anything under wraps as well as they have this particular application. Don't mistake the quietness for inactivity. Tech may or may not receive an invite to the AAC, but I do know we have submitted a very strong application, and the AAC door was NOT slammed in our face.
hopefully I’m congratulating instead of joining in on the SOS excuse making we’ve been indoctrinated with for the past 15+ years
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boxerdog
From my perspective, Dr.Woods comes across as a tactful, servant-leader type who intentionally connects with the broad fanbase. I'm just a normal fan who attends multiple games. 3 times he has personally thanked me for attending a sporting event. First time was at a basketball game and he came and sat down on our row and thanked my daughters and their friend along with my wife and myself for coming out. I think he asked where we were from and sat beside us for a few minutes just because he wanted to meet us. Second time was at a baseball game (can't remember if it was Southern Miss or the NC State regional) and he reached out and shook my hand, saying he was glad to see me there. Third time was at the SMU football game. He was walking up the stairs and thanked my entire group for coming out. He's different in that way for sure. I also imagine he's probably fairly connected due his work at Arkansas and UCF. I'm not sure how long he'll be at Tech but I find him to be very personable and I'm proud to have him as our AD.
Thanks for this.
I certainly hope that his time of "listening and learning" is long over and his time of "getting shit done" is long begun. This is probably the most important year in the history of Tech since 1988: he can't afford to mess this up, so I hope for all our sakes he doesn't!
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Originally Posted by
boxerdog
From my perspective, Dr.Woods comes across as a tactful, servant-leader type who intentionally connects with the broad fanbase. I'm just a normal fan who attends multiple games. 3 times he has personally thanked me for attending a sporting event. First time was at a basketball game and he came and sat down on our row and thanked my daughters and their friend along with my wife and myself for coming out. I think he asked where we were from and sat beside us for a few minutes just because he wanted to meet us. Second time was at a baseball game (can't remember if it was Southern Miss or the NC State regional) and he reached out and shook my hand, saying he was glad to see me there. Third time was at the SMU football game. He was walking up the stairs and thanked my entire group for coming out. He's different in that way for sure. I also imagine he's probably fairly connected due his work at Arkansas and UCF. I'm not sure how long he'll be at Tech but I find him to be very personable and I'm proud to have him as our AD.
Interesting. The man has never spoken two words to me, and I've been in his small group "orbit" 3 or 4 times. He has also never returned my one phone call that I placed to his office.
BUT --and I want to be very clear about this-- I DON'T CARE!! I don't mind at all that Dr Wood hasn't been personable with me, as long as he's doing his job and getting stuff done for LA Tech athletics. I don't need my ego stroked, or any of that nonsense, to be a very happy Bulldog fan. If Dr. Wood manages to get us in the AAC, he'll probably be instantly on my list of Top 2 LA Tech AD's of all time, regardless of if he ever speaks a word to me or not.
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PawDawg
hopefully I’m congratulating instead of joining in on the SOS excuse making we’ve been indoctrinated with for the past 15+ years
same
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HogDawg
That's not what I'm hearing. First of all, I can promise you that most of the "shakers and movers" at LA Tech are totally clueless about what's going on with the AAC application. Only a very few people know anything about it. I've never seen Tech's leadership keep anything under wraps as well as they have this particular application. Don't mistake the quietness for inactivity. Tech may or may not receive an invite to the AAC, but I do know we have submitted a very strong application, and the AAC door was NOT slammed in our face.
You were way out in front on Austin coming to Tech, so I believe you know what you’re talking about.
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I think we all know the fan based PR game is just friendly window dressing. None of that means diddly squat to what’s really important. Some fans may feel a jolt of ego for the AD to say ‘hi’ and shake their hand, but where Woods’ greatest value is, is in doing deals with other ADs to benefit Tech moving forward. Second to that is getting our coaching circus straightened out to start competing better and winning some games that are considered over our heads. I’ve been around long enough to be skeptical of what Tech can accomplish when I count up all the shortfalls we’ve had. Hopefully... this time things will be different. My fingers are crossed.
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After being turned down by the schools the AAC was initially targeting, their Commissioner has adopted Mickey Gilley's hit song "All The Girls Get Prettier At Closing Time" as the new AAC theme song!!! LOL!!!! Unless the AAC extends invitations to the top teams from the Sun Belt and CUSA (and they all accept) the AAC will not be any better than the SBC and MWC.