Will you increase financial support in light of coaching change?

I'm curious how the news this week will really affect your support of Tech Athletics. We all know the embarrassing low number of LTAC members. Season ticket sales are not much better. What will you do different? Your votes are private so have at it.

Season tickets are not in my cards at this time but I'll certainly be taking my kids to a game or two next year
Particularly if Tech commits to making that a lot easier than it is now (financially and logistically).

It depends on who is hired and what changes are made to the staff etc. The product has to be worth the money period.

I’ll keep my tickets and donation. I would have canceled them for next year. If things look promising maybe more, but I’ll have to forget this season and see real change first.

We already cut back. We’ll stay where we are for now.

I had already told my wife we were not renewing our 6 DAC seats and would have to survive going forward in our EE chairbacks which we usually give away. In light of recent developments we will keep our DAC seats. I had also planned to drop my LTAC donor level to just enough to keep our chairbacks and parking passes but in support of the recent move by the administration we will stand pat on our giving.

Mine will probably increase. The canning of Holtz demonstrates a level seriousness from our admin and I feel like now is a fairly crucial time in the life of our athletic department.

I'm taking a wait and see stance. This is a positive move for Wood/Guice. But I want to see what their vision is with the new hire. If they come in with a retread coach I won't be impressed. If they reach out and bring in what we all feel is an up and comer, then I could get excited...again...finally...

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Originally Posted by DallasDog

It depends on who is hired and what changes are made to the staff etc. The product has to be worth the money period.

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This.. I too have stopped giving and I haven't been to a Tech football game in 2 years. Depending upon what happens with changes will determine if I go back to giving to LTAC.

For right now, I'm a wait and see. I'll probably keep my four EE seats but lower my LTAC but still retain my Red Parking Pass.

I wonder how many people are LOWERING their commitment because of the Holtz removal…

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Originally Posted by skilldawg

I wonder how many people are LOWERING their commitment because of the Holtz removal…

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Can’t imagine many.

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Originally Posted by skilldawg

I wonder how many people are LOWERING their commitment because of the Holtz removal…

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Doubt this number is large. I can't even anyone that has a brain cell not seeing the need for the dismissal.

Increase tickets

Tim Brando seemed to insinuate the move was forced by boosters which would seem to argue that giving Will either go up or would have gone down without the move.

Or, people will maintain current giving rather than decreasing. I think that is most likely.

Edit: which means our athletic director needs to find more supporters. Should have been for the last 30 years.

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Originally Posted by THEarmada

Tim Brando seemed to insinuate the move was forced by boosters which would seem to argue that giving Will either go up or would have gone down without the move.

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Tim Brando has no inside connections. Those who say what Brando is saying also think we should have kept Skip around indefinitely, they ignore this was partly Skips decision and they enjoy Tech losing

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Tim Brando has no inside connections. Those who say what Brando is saying also think we should have kept Skip around indefinitely, they ignore this was partly Skips decision and they enjoy Tech losing

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I thought it was made clear this was not something Skip was considering until he was told about it.

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Originally Posted by Tech52

I thought it was made clear this was not something Skip was considering until he was told about it.

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who made that clear? Think Skip was all in on the job? Even he couldn’t say he was.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

who made that clear? Think Skip was all in on the job? Even he couldn’t say he was.

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It appears Skip would disagree with you and wanted to make it clear he did not make this decision. Of course he forgot to mention in this video how bad his most recent record was.

https://www.arklatexhomepage.com/vid...-tech/7188033/

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Originally Posted by DawgBark

It appears Skip would disagree with you and wanted to make it clear he did not make this decision. Of course he forgot to mention in this video how bad his most recent record was.

https://www.arklatexhomepage.com/vid...-tech/7188033/

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Yeah, a little more "Skip Speak" at the end. Just put a quarter in him and he spews crap.

So, Skippy says he was terminated. This wasn't some mutual agreement, blah, blah, blah...

Well then, my opinion of Guice & Wood just went up one notch. Now, we'll see what they do with a replacement.

… got to say “compete” one last time though

Lets just cut to the chase, if you can't win more than three games in this conference, you deserve to be fired. Especially if you're in year 9. It wasn't a talent issue, because if it was you couldn't have played Moo State, NC State and SMU down to the wire. That's a coaching issue , period, and one that needed to be remedied. Thankfully the administration did what was necessary to begin to bring this program back to where it needs to be.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Tim Brando has no inside connections. Those who say what Brando is saying also think we should have kept Skip around indefinitely, they ignore this was partly Skips decision and they enjoy Tech losing

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There are still those in the media that think we should have kept Bicknell too.

I think Roy Lang was the biggest one who was angry we fired Bicknell.

What better than to have a guy you like piling up the losses for a team you hate?

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Originally Posted by skilldawg

I wonder how many people are LOWERING their commitment because of the Holtz removal…

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Those would be the ones not giving to LTAC anyway like many on this board.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

What better than to have a guy you like piling up the losses for a team you hate?

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Maybe Skip will get hired by USL. :laugh:

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Originally Posted by SicemDawgz

Lets just cut to the chase, if you can't win more than three games in this conference, you deserve to be fired. Especially if you're in year 9. It wasn't a talent issue, because if it was you couldn't have played Moo State, NC State and SMU down to the wire. That's a coaching issue , period, and one that needed to be remedied. Thankfully the administration did what was necessary to begin to bring this program back to where it needs to be.

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Agreed!

As I understand it, Tech has one of the lowest student athletic fees in the FBS. With that said I think Tech should put a $100 athletic fee per student per quarter. Then you will generate roughly 4 million a year. I think we can attract a really good HC at 4M per year!

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Originally Posted by DD Dawg

As I understand it, Tech has one of the lowest student athletic fees in the FBS. With that said I think Tech should put a $100 athletic fee per student per quarter. Then you will generate roughly 4 million a year. I think we can attract a really good HC at 4M per year!

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And reward attendance by awarding students who go to the games with points towards their grades.

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Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg

And reward attendance by awarding students who go to the games with points towards their grades.

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There used to be rewards for students who attended games. They had cards that were stamped at every athletic event. I'm sure the rewards weren't associated with grades, but there were perks for showing up.

When I proctored exams for my boss in the business school, all those students said they would happily attend every home game and stay til the final horn if they could be entered in a drawing to have $1000 of their tuition waived for the quarter. Have 5 different winners for FB, MBB, WBB, Baseball, and Softball. Throw in soccer if you want. Students can only win 1 time in an academic year.

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Originally Posted by techman05

When I proctored exams for my boss in the business school, all those students said they would happily attend every home game and stay til the final horn if they could be entered in a drawing to have $1000 of their tuition waived for the quarter. Have 5 different winners for FB, MBB, WBB, Baseball, and Softball. Throw in soccer if you want. Students can only win 1 time in an academic year.

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This KISS method was proven to work many years ago and involved a used car. Our leaders scrapped it And pretend it never happened.

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Originally Posted by techman05

When I proctored exams for my boss in the business school, all those students said they would happily attend every home game and stay til the final horn if they could be entered in a drawing to have $1000 of their tuition waived for the quarter. Have 5 different winners for FB, MBB, WBB, Baseball, and Softball. Throw in soccer if you want. Students can only win 1 time in an academic year.

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Have more prizes, don’t limit eligibility for prizes. Just for the top prize. If someone already got the $1000, give them second prize and draw for $1000 again.

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Originally Posted by Tech52

Have more prizes, don’t limit eligibility for prizes. Just for the top prize. If someone already got the $1000, give them second prize and draw for $1000 again.

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This was actually discussed also, a different giveaway for each home game. Then have all the students names thrown in a hopper (as many games as you attend is how many times your name is put in the hopper) for a grand prize at the end of the season. You could do multiple $40-$50 prizes per game. With good attendance, you cancel out any giveaways in 1st quarter concessions anyway.

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Those would be the ones not giving to LTAC anyway like many on this board.

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The vast majority of this board are members of LTAC - know before you speak Ray...

We really need to do a study to see how other G5 schools approach ticket pricing, promotions and building attendance. Our approach seems to have been “stick it to the loyal fans” (and) don’t try things that might grow the fan base.

What is the general consensus of ticket prices? Do you feel we were overcharged for the product that Dooley or Dykes put on the field? I know we were overcharged for the Holtz product. I don’t see ticket prices or promos getting any cheaper. However, I do expect the value for our dollar to go up if we can restore our game day experience and product to pre Holtz standards.

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Originally Posted by techman05

What is the general consensus of ticket prices? Do you feel we were overcharged for the product that Dooley or Dykes put on the field? I know we were overcharged for the Holtz product. I don’t see ticket prices or promos getting any cheaper. However, I do expect the value for our dollar to go up if we can restore our game day experience and product to pre Holtz standards.

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Our prices went up because Tommy boy looked around, saw who was currently paying, and charged them more. It's that simple.

We are back to the fan gathering stage and have lost literally hundreds of long time supporters who had been giving for many, many years. I'm one of them. I know many more.

I have been unhappy with Skip Holtz since he lost to Tulane and Northwestern on our sacred home turf then add SMU - all games that solidified and showcased the fact that Skip possessed almost no math skills. I was finally done with him when I learned that our punter, Gerald Shouse, would have been CUSA punter of the year his senior year had Skip Holtz not been so stupid as to fail to keep track of the stats and allow Louisiana Tech to miss out on that award because our punter was 1/2 punt short of the minimum to be considered - that was the season Skip kept toying with the rugby style punts from a different punter.

So to sum up: even though I was saddened each morning for about eight years waking up and realizing it was no nightmare, Skip Holtz really was still Tech’s HC, we continued our LTAC donation and DAC tickets and even kept 10 chairbacks - I will always support Tech and I believe in Dr Les Guice.

PS: I was hoping for Tim Rattay.

Unfortunately all I can say is that I’ll attend on a game by game basis until Tech returns to some degree of reasonable pricing. Tech was all out stupid and arrogant to price their seasons tickets and parking pass prices out of the range of the most populous fans. It looks all the worse for the future as the costs of everything loom to go higher and higher. Leisure money may be in short supply for at least 2022. Maybe AD Wood will see this approach to having a fan base as something else he needs to change.

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Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg

Unfortunately all I can say is that I’ll attend on a game by game basis until Tech returns to some degree of reasonable pricing. Tech was all out stupid and arrogant to price their seasons tickets and parking pass prices out of the range of the most populous fans. It looks all the worse for the future as the costs of everything loom to go higher and higher. Leisure money may be in short supply for at least 2022. Maybe AD Wood will see this approach to having a fan base as something else he needs to change.

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No argument there, but if someone can’t figure out how to ensure that at least 75% of the student population attends games, it seems to me that would indicate a SEVERE problem. The team literally belongs to those students (imho).

The students will vote in favor of the much needed fee. Academia does not want it and will not allow the vote. Typical leftist turds…

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Originally Posted by ChipDog

No argument there, but if someone can’t figure out how to ensure that at least 75% of the student population attends games, it seems to me that would indicate a SEVERE problem. The team literally belongs to those students (imho).

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At this point, 33% of the student population at football, 5% at basketball, baseball, and softball should be celebrated. We are well short of that.

I see that 50% are NOT increasing their giving, which--I suppose--is not the result you were looking for. But in fairness to people here, a lot of them are on the hook for $4K to the gofundme now that Holtz is fired.

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Originally Posted by ChipDog

No argument there, but if someone can’t figure out how to ensure that at least 75% of the student population attends games, it seems to me that would indicate a SEVERE problem. The team literally belongs to those students (imho).

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What is a typical percentage of student body attendance? The AD should know that, I guess.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

The students will vote in favor of the much needed fee. Academia does not want it and will not allow the vote. Typical leftist turds…

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Academia might be leftist turds but think about it from the perspective of a tax being levied to support an institution you don't care about and believe doesn't benefit you in any way.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

What is a typical percentage of student body attendance? The AD should know that, I guess.



Academia might be leftist turds but think about it from the perspective of a tax being levied to support an institution you don't care about and believe doesn't benefit you in any way.

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Yeah, idk how you can be so certain that would pass with the students.

Got an email today requesting one time $100 LTAC contribution with Cumbie poster in return. I think I’m going to give some extra tonight.

Made a contribution. Would challenge everyone to do the same.

Went on Facebook to share the LTAC Facebook post. Interestingly, it appears LTAC’s social media presence is essentially non-existent. The post about new Cumbie contributions may have had one like and I was the first to share it. Surprising and concerning.

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Originally Posted by THEarmada

Tim Brando seemed to insinuate the move was forced by boosters which would seem to argue that giving Will either go up or would have gone down without the move.

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Let's go Brando!!!!!!!

This is how it works, right? You pay for what you want and like and you cut back for what you don’t like.

I second that, “Let’s go Brando... talking head... who cares.”

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Originally Posted by Tech52

Yeah, idk how you can be so certain that would pass with the students.

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Because we're going to have "mail-in" ballots during the election. I can GUARANTEE a victory. :laugh:

The lack of support isn't just about Holtz and the crappy brand of football he's been subjecting us to. It's about higher education in general, and its socialist teachings. I, like many other people, have stopped financially supporting higher education in any way, and I won't reengage until the socialists that are running all of higher education are overthrown.

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Originally Posted by brtransplant

The lack of support isn't just about Holtz and the crappy brand of football he's been subjecting us to. It's about higher education in general, and its socialist teachings. I, like many other people, have stopped financially supporting higher education in any way, and I won't reengage until the socialists that are running all of higher education are overthrown.

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That’s an interesting take.

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Originally Posted by THEarmada

That’s an interesting take.

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The same thing is happening at other schools. The WSJ had an article about it a couple of days ago.

brtansplant--I completely get what your saying and why---the serious leftists running our Universities is out of control, even at little ole Louisiana Tech. The very best--and I do mean the best--fundraiser at our University is a lady that raises money for the School of Business...since she came some 5 years ago, donations have soared through the roof--her "hustling" out there has been dynamic. Because I graduated from the school of business, and am also fairly good friends with the Business department head guy, do I "throw the baby our with the bathwater?" I have given this lots of thought...and have decided, no, I won't....I will continue to support them..., now, if this had been the "liberal arts" department", yes, I'd be done..there are a handful of bad apples in some of the departments voicing radical and leftist thoughts outside of and off of "company time"...it's sickening, but when you have tenure, and its not on school time, not much you can do...BUT...I hear ya, and I keep a close eye on things, as well as I am at a lot of events...it's a dynamic that changes all the time...our AD acting quickly on this football think(right or wrong) has likely saved some academic giving too, as sorry athletics does in fact have a direct impact on academic giving also...just my two cents..

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Originally Posted by brtransplant

The lack of support isn't just about Holtz and the crappy brand of football he's been subjecting us to. It's about higher education in general, and its socialist teachings. I, like many other people, have stopped financially supporting higher education in any way, and I won't reengage until the socialists that are running all of higher education are overthrown.

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Alrighty then…

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Originally Posted by ChipDog

No argument there, but if someone can’t figure out how to ensure that at least 75% of the student population attends games, it seems to me that would indicate a SEVERE problem. The team literally belongs to those students (imho).

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

Because we're going to have "mail-in" ballots during the election. I can GUARANTEE a victory. :laugh:

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Now now.

The vote will be "fortified."

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Originally Posted by jharris

I see that 50% are NOT increasing their giving, which--I suppose--is not the result you were looking for. But in fairness to people here, a lot of them are on the hook for $4K to the gofundme now that Holtz is fired.

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Lots of drivers behind the "Not increasing" responses, I'm sure.