JD Head entering transfer portal. I’m not upset by it.
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JD Head entering transfer portal. I’m not upset by it.
I’d rather he didn’t. I think JD has some potential. It would be better for Tech to have some options of QBs. We’ve already seen time and time again how bad things can get when you only have 1-2.
If he doesn’t think he can compete for the job, I’m not sure I want him to stay.
That may not be the reason. He spend a lot of time in an apparently toxic locker room and on the sideline that we know our former coach allowed to act like junior high players.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
BTW, we were down 3 TDs in one game and I saw one of our offensive starters having a great time with the opposing team's video stream...dancing and singing away.
Didn’t we all want a new coach who will change the culture? Hoped he would stick around to find out.
I would have liked for him to stay and add some muscle. If he doesn’t want to be here though, good luck in the portal.
Entering doesn't mean he is gone yet. Just the first step.
But if he doesn't want to stay, wish him the best and we move forward.
All of the dead weight in this program wasn't in the head coach's office. And the time to lose that dead weight is now.
I have been expecting to hear that Aaron Allen is entering the transfer portal, but perhaps he'll stick around if Head does indeed leave. If Allen is the best Cumbie has available for QB1 next year, it's not going to be pretty IMHO. https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Fo...utionkey=24121
I hope he doesn't leave. He showed some good flashes.
If he has to go though, I expect a decent amount of sophomoric humor from the usual suspects to ease the pain.
He needs to gain weight. Like eat a few burgers and a milk shake.
Griffs!Quote:
Originally Posted by qng001
hahahahahaha...definitelyQuote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
If these guy want to enter the portal, my best wishes are for them. It just means they are not happy with their current situation or in their eyes they feel that the grass is greener else where. Good luck moving forward.
There are certainly a lot of people in the portal - even a lot of QBs from P5 schools. For many, I guess a player has to decide whether they would rather be a little fish in a big pond or a big fish in a little pond. Since most college players will not become NFL players, getting a quality education and/or playing time could be important considerations. I know if I had the choice of being QB4 at a P5 school or QB1 at a high quality academic FCS school, I'd go the FCS route. But, I'm not an 18 year old kid who was a superstar QB at Small Town USA High School who believes I'm the next Patrick Mahomes so I'm sure my thought process is a lot different than the average 18 year old athlete. Anyway, I think there has bound to be a great QB who would be a good fit at LA Tech. Maybe Caleb Holstein is the guy - and he is already at Tech. https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Fo...positionkey=57Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotsudo
Well hopefully we can start anyone other than Allen next year
I would imagine that we will have some to transfer. I am hoping Cumbie has some time to get some new players into the fold transferring in... He needs players that fit his system and we need some freed up scholarships for that purpose.
Maybe our current S&C coach will enter the transfer portal.Quote:
Originally Posted by qng001
He’s one of the best you know. Loves Ruston.
Some of the posts here about QB's in the transfer portal made me think of former LA Tech, Southern Miss and current Miss St backup QB Jumpin' Jack Abraham. According to the article below, Abraham is suffering from "post concussion syndrome" after he had a freak accident in practice at Miss State back in June 2021. This article says Abraham will be petitioning for a 7th year of eligibility at Mississippi St. That's right, I said a "7th Year".
I say no! Shut him off. Shut him down. His college career should be finished! I'm all in favor of awarding additional eligibility --including the occasional 6th year medical redshirt exception-- when a player is truly deserving, and the circumstances are truly extenuating. But even a 6th year of eligibility should be a very rare occurrence. A 7th year? NO WAY! Jumpin Jack will be 25 years old on Oct 25th, 2022. I don't like 25 & 26 yr old players playing against a bunch of 18, 19 & 20 yr old players. It's typically a physical & maturity mismatch. I wouldn't like it if I was a "player parent" now, and I didn't like it back in 2017 when UAB won the CUSA football title after petitioning the NCAA for a special 2-yr redshirt exemption for so many of their players. Tech (and other CUSA teams) ended up playing against a bunch of 24 to 26 yr old "college students", who had purposely been "held out" awaiting UAB's return to college football after a self-imposed 2-yr hiatus. I
MO, I don't see any reason the NCAA shouldn't allow anyone 7 yrs of eligibility to play college football.
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/mi...ne-concussion/
BTW, I do find it very interesting that ANY LA Tech QB would choose to transfer out of the program immediately after we just announced one of the greatest college QB's and offensive coaching minds of all-time as our new head coach. WTH? What are you running from JD? If anybody can improve your QB skills and and chances of making your NFL QB dream come true some day, it's Sonny Cumbie.
This goes for Calvary Baptist QB and LA Tech commit Landry Lyddy too. Anybody that's really serious about becoming a great college QB should be THRILLED to play for Sonny Cumbie.
Maybe we are starting to see the lack of full COA taking effect.
I couldn’t agree more. I don’t understand how Allen even made the team. He’s not very accurate, he has poor judgement on the field, and overall he’s just seems too timid ever be a solid choice at qb. Georgia Southern showed me everything that I need to know about that guy. I think he’s one of the worst quarterbacks to ever where a La Tech jersey.Quote:
Originally Posted by thewyldman
Tarik Hakmi and Scotty Young might have been worse. Would be a close race to the bottom between them allQuote:
Originally Posted by Cory
Hakmi was bad
He will have to transfer to his fourth school, if he wants to actually play in a game. He will never see the field at Mississippi State.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Are you against Luke getting another year?
Surely will be a factor in recruiting and retention of players.Quote:
Originally Posted by frogdog
Sometimes, after hopping over the fence to that greener grass, you find out that green grass greener because of all the B.S. !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotsudo
The more I look at Caleb Holstein, the more I think he could be the guy. He is of decent size and seems to be able to throw the ball with very little effort. His HS coach said “On the field, his most impressive talent is his arm strength and his accuracy. He's a pure passer with an NFL arm. But, you can't measure resiliency and decision-making, and he does that well. What Caleb values are different than the average kid." He was committed to Harvard before switching to Tech. He is from the same HS as Griffin Herbert which factored into his decision to commit to Tech. Of course Holtz and company convinced him Tech ran a spread offense which appealed to him. Anyway, I hope Holstein allows Cumbie to give him a fair and honest assessment regarding how Holstein can fit into Tech's future. https://www.hudl.com/profile/8035830/Caleb-Holstein
Holstein looks good. Also, heck! he had receivers in HS who know how to use their hands and GO GET the pass!!!!!!!!! Not all of his passes were on the mark but his receivers adjusted and snatched the ball out of the air, like all good receivers do. He also benefitted from a solid OL that allowed him to stand in the pocket and pick out a receiver. He won't find either of those so readily at Tech or for any Division I school.
Now, watching the video clips, there were a few times he was flushed from the pocket and he did a great job of keeping his eyes downfield and hit a receiver while on the move.
I certainly think he deserves a shot to prove he can be our #1 QB, and I hope we see him get that chance.
I have watched Holstein on the sideline all season and wondered why isn't he at least given a few snaps? I was told by two different people that he "didn't want to put the work in" either physically or mentally to earn any time from Skip. I can understand how a guy who was committed to Harvard might be a little bored with that coaching staff but I have heard that said about a lot of players in the past few years so who knows the real truth. I like JD Head but as stated above, if you as QB do not want be here and develop under a coach such as Sonny Cumbie, then move on. As my mama and aunts use to say about family gatherings - "If you don't want to be here, we don't want you here". Good Luck!
i wonder if jd has some inside information -- like is sonny expecting to bring in a transfer qb from texas tech?
Hearing that TT RB coach is coming and bringing his RS FR QB son to LA Tech. Son is listed at 6-5. Have ties to Bishop Gorman High School, so could be good for recruiting.
Well, you have to be willing to put in the work. But if he saw it as being a futile effort...Quote:
Originally Posted by JDubyadawg
Donovan Smith was the starting QB at TT at the end of the year. https://texastech.com/sports/footbal...an-smith/10312 He is an architecture major at TT. I guess we'll see how things play out.Quote:
Originally Posted by aggiedawg
Daddy smith would have to be willing to take a big pay cut
The best thing about Cumbie is that our QBs can actually expect to improve over their college career rather than regress.
Luke didn't play this year, so I don't think that counts. So, I think he'll be in his 6th year in 2022. (I'm sure someone here can check me on that.) But regardless, and consistent with my previous statement, I'm against a "7th year" of eligibility, regardless of the reason for getting it. It's just too much. This is not a professional career; it's college. Get in and get out, boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom
Anthony will be applying for an injury hardship year. Since he was never cleared for any activities after his second surgery, that request should be granted.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
But it will still be Anthony's "6th" year of eligibility, right? Because he was not eligible (or cleared) in 2021, so 2022 will not be his 7th year of playing eligibility?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
I heard --about a week ago-- that the Smith kid was likely coming to LA Tech with Cumbie because it's a pretty crowded bench in the TT QB stall. And I've heard that this kid is an incredible player. But........none of this is guaranteed. I like the Holstein kid, and I hope he gets a real shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg Fan
Skip Holtz wouldn't even play Hunter Lee in games, despite the fact Lee was LA Tech's most popular returning player in 2013 when Holtz arrived. After Holtz arrived, Lee's playing time was cut to a quarter of what it had been under Sonny Dykes. Holtz just wouldn't play him, and Lee and his family we not happy about it. I know this for a fact. And all the while, Holtz was still complaining about the loss of 95 seniors from the 2012 LA Tech roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDubyadawg
Holtz was too stubborn for his own good. So, I have no doubt that the reason the Holstein kid never got a real try is because of Skip Holtzs' stubbornness.
He misused so many players it’s incredible. Of course, I’m sure Boston Scott will last longer in the NFL than Dixon because KD was broken when he got to the league from being run so hard.
Yep. Boston was not over-used by Skippy, that's for sure. After KD graduated I called for Scott to be our #1 RB, but I guess it's good he wasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Probably saved his NFL career.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Holtz disliked all the remaining players, especially the stars.
Hunter Lee was clutch. If you needed 3 yards, he’s getting 4. Still remember the amazing catch he made down the stretch against Nevada to keep that drive alive and help win the WAC championship game. The fact that Holtz cut his playing time so dramatically was a travesty.
Certainly wouldn't be coming for a big increase in salary, but looking back, LA Tech could probably get close to matching his current salary if he came in as a coordinator. For a lateral move as a position coach - forget about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
A real head scratcher for sure. Along those same lines, I have not understood why Griffin Herbert was not utilized more. Hunter Lee/Trent Taylor/Griffin Herbert - I have always considered them to be great 3rd down short yardage options - any down really, but especially 3rd down when you had to have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Agreed! I have been hollering from the wilderness for Griffin Hebert to be our "go-to" guy. But Holtz is an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg Fan
I wonder how Ewers probable transfer to Texas Tech might play into it?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I've lost track...does Hebert return in the '22 season or did he graduate? Dude's a ballplayer. I also am a fan of Tyler Grubbs. The team's had wayyyyy more talent than the record showed this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg Fan
Agreed. That play he made at Nevada is legendary in LA Tech football lore.Quote:
Originally Posted by SicemDawgz
As is being forced out of bounds on the play by our quick thinking Sr. Wide receiver.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Aaron Allen just announced he is entering transfer portal. Graduating with 2 yrs of eligibility left.
OMG! How will I sleep tonight???Quote:
Originally Posted by jycww
Very well, thank you.
He should go play at a DII school or at best some lousy FCS school. The SWAC would be perfect for him. The quality of play lacks a bunch there.
Good luck to Allen.Quote:
Originally Posted by jycww
He showed the occasional flash, but couldn't seem to put together a whole good game. Hopefully he finds a good fit somewhere. I sure hope this means a transfer is on the way or we're going to be really young (or really old I guess) at QB.
If true, hopefully an FCS school will pick him up and give him a chance. It appears to me that reality may be setting in about the evaluation skills and expectations of excellence related to our new coach. A few players will leave, replaced by higher level athletes who will excel in a new style led by the new coach. There is a new day @ Louisiana Tech and I am optimistic of better times ahead for both fans and athletes.Quote:
Originally Posted by jycww
I had totally forgotten about that, but I remember that play.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Id rather see A Allen leave than Head! Allen was given ample opportunities to prove his worth and failed! Now if Cumbie is a true QB whisperer and can make Allen a legit D1 QB then Im sold on Cumbie! It will take a herculean effort to make Allen a real QB!
Wishing Aaron the best at his new school. While he obviously wasn't a D1 level quarterback, I'll always remember his leading two fourth quarter scoring drives last season with us down by 14 to UAB, including the game tying 24 yard td pass with 10 seconds left as we beat UAB in OT in Ruston. Hope he's proud of his Tech degree even as we both move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by jycww
LOL! Our QB's finally get a coach who knows how to coach QB's, and they all fly the coup. What does THAT tell you? Seriously, it makes me wonder if Coach Sonny told them to find another address for next year?Quote:
Originally Posted by jycww
Hoping it means they all know they won’t cut it in his system and he can go get a guy that can run it. If it means they all were loyal to Holtz, then “bye Felicia.”
It tells me there's a very rotten culture in the locker room.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Common with our former HC. It carried over to the sideline.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJDAWG
Seems like they may just like Holtz, tbh. They did commit to Tech under him.
The Head news was more surprising than Allen.
Assuming Holtz gets hired by another school - I'm wondering if Head or Allen would transfer there to play for Holtz if given the opportunity. I'm thinking not, but you just never can tell about these things.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Unless ULM fires Bowden or maybe NewMexico St fires their coach, I don’t see anyone going after Holtz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg Fan
Herbert is listed as being a senior on the 2022 roster page - 6th year in college. His freshman year was a true redshirt year, and 2020 was a freebie for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuckK3
https://latechsports.com/sports/foot...in-hebert/9177
Put me down as being a member of the Tyler Grubbs fan club as well.
New Mexico State just hired Jerry Kill
I've wondered whether Allen just didn't/doesn't have it, or whether Holtz had his mind so jacked up he couldn't perform up to his potential. If he transfers somewhere else and excels - his poor play could have been more of a Holtz issue than a lack of ability. Of course, with a porous O-Line, a lot of QBs are going to look terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russdawg
His two biggest problems was that he was wildly inconsistent and had zero touch on his passes. He would have a game like Charlotte with a passer rating of 195 and follow it up the very next game with Southern Miss and a passer rating of 59. That happened his whole career. And watching him try and throw a swing pass to the back was a nightmare. He seems like a good kid, but he’s not going to make it here as a QB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg Fan
This is opening up some key spots, if Sonny has time to recruit some.
He doesn't have it. Hate it for him, but he's not an FBS QB in my opinion. Head had some potential but apparently feels he's got a better shot to play elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg Fan
2020 was quite a ride for everyone and for a lot of reasons, but those game threads with Allen and Anthony alternating are such a roller-coaster. One or the other would look bad for a drive or two, then the other guy would make the game-winning drive and it was all settled (briefly). "Clearly <this guy> should be the starter <other guy> just doesn't have it, should never play again" and then after the next game they'd reverse roles (and the commentary/my thoughts would follow).Quote:
Originally Posted by SicemDawgz
Wildly inconsistent is absolutely his issue. I hope the rest of his career goes well, a clean start may be the best thing for everyone (although like HD, I'm shocked that anyone wouldn't want to play what ought to be a fairly QB friendly system).
Holtz will not get hired for another Head coaching job. There's far too many good coaches out there today for any school to hire without trying to sell Holtz's baggage to their alumni. The man's been fired from two jobs already. And his last 2 years here were abysmal. People need to let it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg Fan
Good point. Aaron Allen saved the game for us against UAB in 2020, and then turned around and looked like a gigantic turd in the NO Bowl against some team named Georgia Southern. The way he looked in that game, you would have thought we were playing against Alabama.Quote:
Originally Posted by SicemDawgz
Oh....Sonny's connected to QB's in Texas. Everybody knows who he is. Don't worry about it. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by champion110
You say that, but people who have been fired multiple times and with worse records have been rehired. I wouldnt be surprised if he did get another job.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
I would draw this conclusion if JD and Aaron would have transferred when Holtz was still here. There have been several QB's to transfer during Holtz's time, but seems they likely concluded they would be given zero opportunity. If anything, with the new coach JD and Aaron should have some optimism that the culture if rotten, would change for the better. I don't expect they themselves are the causes of a bad culture. I do expect they must have come to the understanding that HCSC already has plans for QB1 that aren't do not include them. There is enough real game film of them for the new coach to have an idea if they would be a good fit in his offensive plans.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJDAWG
I wish them luck. The portal is crowded. Hope they find somewhere to play where they can really have fun playing football and be successful.
And he has a great one still coming from Louisiana! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
https://latech.rivals.com/news/landry-lyddy-named-gatorade-louisiana-football-player-of-the-year?fbclid=IwAR2pgnjA6-_Hk1hlZ_QMFx0Ba4ujK1UB8jNxkYLgD8YE7arWdLd0VDLXxxk
I hear you, good discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEEDAWG
But, why are both starting QBs leaving when Tech gets a HC that, by all that we're hearing from Texas Tech and others, is an outstanding QB and offensive coach, especially compared to Skippy ????
Has new HC Cumbie already told them where to go and how to get there? .... (the transfer portal and via the web) ... might need to bring some Dr Pepper
Maybe it’s as simple as them knowing that they don’t have what it takes to become a solidly good top tier college QB. By comparison they did see some other QBs in competition this year that we’re better than they were.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJDAWG
UL-L QB commit receives offer from TechQuote:
Zeon Chriss @zeonchriss 1h
Blessed to receive offer from Louisiana Tech @iRecruitDaBoot @TheDBLab @CoachCamp44
They saw Nico. "Nico's time is NOW!"Quote:
Originally Posted by DJDAWG
And we know State doesn't need a punter who materializes in the portal without at least a DP 12-pack.
Off topic, but the series of DP Fansville commercials was about as good as it gets this year. Even making fun of themselves in the season finale.
Yeah if that is the case then they are really playing the wrong position in the wrong sport at the wrong school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
Yeah if that is the case then they are really playing the wrong position in the wrong sport at the wrong school. D1 QB’s need to have a belief in themselves that they can play, continuously learn, be the best QB and lead their team to wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bone_afide_Dawg
Watched him play Sterlington a couple weeks ago. He is definitely legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportdawg
I wholeheartedly agree. I can't see any program hiring him as a Head Coach. OC maybe...but, not a head coach AND that is a far reach. Just because your a good OC or DC does not mean it will transfer to being a good head coach! For Pete's sake, we've seen a lot of that over the past several years through the coaching carrousel. A lot of names come to mind. Many of those are now looking for jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
OC? Not a chance in hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotsudo
And that's what I said..."that is a far reach."Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
I think "IF" he is lucky, he may get a gig as a sports commentator or analyst on some network and that's about what it will amount to. There is no accountability in his commentary on those shows and if he F's up his prognostication, no one gives a rats ass because he is not responsible for the W or L column at the end of the day for any given team!
UAB is trying to outdo us I guess - 5 UAB players have entered the portal within the past few days. https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Fo...utionkey=24059
Pretty soon, if not already, college football teams will be starting over every fall practice with practically a brand new team. This requires a different set of coaching skills and know-how. Those of us who have coached in the amateur/recreational ranks know this situation very well. On a typical soccer team with a roster of 18 players, usually I didn't know at least 12-13 of the kids and had maybe two weeks to put a team together before our first game.
I'm serious when I say this requires a different set of coaching know-how. Successful coaches, with winning teams year after year, embraced the challenge and have a system in place to deal with it.
Obviously Holtz failed miserably at this. He had a "new" team and went 3-9.
Surely though, you won’t have key players entering the portal. Fringe players who are only in on the rare kickoff or return team make sense. Players who are main cogs in the offense shouldn’t be transferring, right?
Maybe for the time being, but if not now then soon we'll see more and more of the transferring and it will impact key starters. This whole portal mess...and yes have a case of Dr. Pepper with ya to transfer to State in Fansville...is just now getting started and gathering steam.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
I predict Nick Saban will bellyache about it when it hits Bama, say it should be banned, and then quickly adjust and become the best at it! It's what Saban does...be the best at everything.
Lyddy has a GREAT arm. If he holds his commit to LA Tech, I believe he'll blossom under Coach Sonny Cumbie, and become the next superstar QB in the NCAA. This could be one of those seminal moments in LA Tech history when two GREATS come together and compliment each other perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by champion110
Get ready to sit back and watch the show of your life.
Wow. He looks like a very good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportdawg
The question is, does Zeon Chriss want to be coached by a brilliant Offensive mind and QB Guru at LA Tech, or by a Defensive Coordinator at ULALA??
Offensive analyst at best unless he goes FCS or lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotsudo
Maybe he can convince Choudrant to finally start a football program so he can still commute to work from Squire Creek.
Unless he grows a couple of inches he won't - he is too small and too slow of footQuote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
If he's a commit to another school (even if it is just ULALA), should we even be offering? I suppose it might be a case of the kid not wanting to play for Holtz (understandable) and now being more open to coming here. But, if he has already committed shouldn't he have to make the move, to initiate the change of commitments? Dosen't seem kosher to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportdawg
So was Drew Brees...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden