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Stepping away from Russia, covid, and gas prices for a second. Voting this way, to me, proves they don't ever look into the results of what they pass. Will hurt school age kids and blue collar workers the most. Would be cool with leaving it one way but standard, not DST
I don't understand the issues with this time stuff. The change, every six months might, MIGHT, affect me that first Sunday morning the change occurs, and even that is no biggie. I have already forgotten we've had a recent change, well that is until someone reminds me of it...like this.
I do think that meme sent out via social media is funny, the one showing an old Indian holding up a blanket with the caption, "Only the Federal government would think you make a blanket longer by cutting off a foot from the bottom then sewing to the top."
Have a close friend who drives me nuts with this crap. She was complaining yesterday, "I will have to quit my job, I just can't handle this time change." Get a frickin' life...
For the "hurt" it causes school children, they also get the benefit of being able to be outside longer in the evenings. I know my baseball team appreciates it.
There are already times like now, where the sunrise is late in the morning and most commutes happen in the dark. We'd just have to put up with it for a longer period of time. I'd rather have more daylight hours to spend with my family after work than spending daylight time driving to work.
So the fact the kids will be in school before sunrise doesn't both you? The fact that MILLIONS of kids in the coldest part of the year will be waiting at the end of their driveway two hours before sunrise doesn't bother you? Those that don't ride the buses will be driving to school in complete darkness. Guess it's not about the kids and their safety after all.
I don't care which way they leave it, but I'm ready for the changing the clocks stuff to stop.
We are raising two grandkids. Monday we stood in the driveway waiting for the bus, my 6-yr-old granddaughter said to me, "Poppa, we're too early, it's dark...I'm going back to bed." This morning she was already used to it. Kids are resilient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choudawg86
BTW, when I was a kid, busses never stopped at each house, we all had to walk to a street corner to a designated bus stop. For some kids it was often a long walk. But then, we are Boomers, used to doing things for ourselves...
It is fascinating that, faced with consequences of a decision THEY made, the govt chooses to double down on the decision rather than simply reverse it :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Choudawg86
You are describing the GenX latchkey kids. We took care of ourselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Boomers had peace and prosperity given to them by their parents, but weren’t satisfied with it, so they robbed from future generations as well.
Hold my beer say the kids from Alaska.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choudawg86
There are studies showing increases in traffic accidents, workplace incidents, and heart attacks relating to the changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choudawg86
It's time to drop it.
Oh, I'm cool with one way or the other but make it standard time. As far as walking to one spot for the bus, nice when you live in an urban area but unrealistic in rural areas.
I also see it through the eyes of a blue collar worker who need daylight to do your jobs. But it's all about your personal situation and experience, I get it.
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Originally Posted by dawg80
Hah! Gawd you say the stupidest things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Er, right, we didn't walk to a designated bus stop....only, we did!
The kids will be inside at school, so who cares if there's daylight outside when they get there? I have 2 kids, and no, it doesn't bother me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choudawg86
Kids had to wait for the bus in the dark today. If you're first on the bus route, you probably wait in the dark much more often than not. As it was alluded to in another comment, see also: AlaskaQuote:
The fact that MILLIONS of kids in the coldest part of the year will be waiting at the end of their driveway two hours before sunrise doesn't bother you?
Do you think farmers get up at 6am to start work every day of the year, or do they sleep in a bit or work on other things early in the morning during DST and work later into the evening?Quote:
Originally Posted by Choudawg86
If times can be changed 1 hour either direction 2 times a year, why not meet in the middle and leave it?
Hmmm...simple math, eh. -1 + 1 = 0Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Yes, I know that. But some like the extra daylight, some like it getting dark earlier. Why not split the difference. Like right now, it’s 4:00, not 3:30.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Or is the the other way and it’s 3:00 instead of 3:30? Holy crap! Just pick a time and stay with it.
It's time to drop DsT not standard time.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
Yesterday my grandkids got to PLAY, ride their bikes, and have fun after they completed their homework. I say keep it this way forever. No falling back in the Fall.
Just my not-so-humble opinion.
Gives me more time to mow the grass during the week when I get off of work and don't have a prior commitment which frees up my weekend more -
Hell I had to deal with it growing up, in a community that if you lived less than two miles from the school you were forbidden to ride the school bus - that meant parents took you or you rode the bike with backpack
We can see all the foolishness now - these kids that are now adults didn't have to deal with monkey blood, radiators in the class room, non airconditioned schools, dodgeball, king of the hill, blistering hot 20ft high slides, 1st 2nd and 3rd place ribbons only during field days (your consolation prize was a paper dixie cup of red kool-aid and knock-off chocolate chip cookie) and your only choice in the lunch room was chocolate milk or white milk....
Bunch of damn weenies and pansies
Goosey says you're one of those evil, greedy Boomers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
If you have never played dodgeball with those heavy rubber balls, then you never played dodgeball. These new foam balls they use are worthless. We had PE with 4-6th grade at the same time. We used to get pegged with those red rubber balls by kids 2 years older than us AND WE LOVED IT! What a game!
If you were in a small PE class at say Webster Jr High or Lowe Middle School - it was dodgeball with the smaller red ball up against the gym wall...Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Awesome! And look how we turned out. We aren’t totally crazy!! Just a little off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
Sounds like DfM is describing the GenX experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
GenXers had it too easy. That's their problem. The "gimme, gimme, gimme" generation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
That isn’t GenX. You are thinking of millennials.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Correct. I think D80 is thinking of Millennials.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
For most in GenX there was no such thing as after school care. And the vast majority of our mothers were in the workforce. We basically took care of ourselves for at least a couple of hours in the afternoon. I did starting in the 3rd grade.
When Mom or Dad got home I had to have my homework finished and had to be ready for football or baseball or basketball practice, whatever season we were in. And I learned how to use the big Amana microwave.
Then in the summer going into the 5th grade, with the exception of a couple of weeks in various summer camps, I was home alone during the day. As were my friends. We all learned how to cut the grass and clean up around the house.
We didn't have it easy.
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Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Hah! set y'all up. Boomers raised Gen Xers. All three of my kids are Gen X, and then we adopted a 1992-born little girl. Boomers keep getting bashed, which is stupid, we were raised by the Greatest Generation and then raised Gen X. By then, here in the US, we had peace and prosperity so Gen Xers grew up in a stable time and, as a generation, didn't have to "want" something. It was there for them. Yes, because Boomers was (is) the WORKING generation, two-income households, our kids were "latch-key." But we were also heavily involved in their lives. I coached all my kids in various sports. That meant putting in a long day at work, then dashing straight to ball practice, then not getting home until after 6:30-7:00, then checking their homework, getting them fed, and finally, around 9PM or so, whew! some personal time to relax.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
My wife and I, both proud Boomers, are retired and set for life financially, yet we both still work, at least part-time. I still get a W2! It's who we are...the WORKING generation. Now we are raising two of our grandkids as their parents try to get their lives on a path of dependable financial means. Happy to report they are making strides.
Carry on...
If only that were the whole story. You guys also cut your own taxes, while cutting support for programs that benefited you while not giving up any of your own entitlements, leaving your progeny with massive government debt and less opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
What a swampy statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Typical doublespeak from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
says the guy who thinks “the adults”, socialism, and globalism is the right direction for AmericansQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
If you hate globalism, you must love inflation.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
We did? Wow! that was smart of us...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
We didn’t have inflation until you people unleashed the China virus and “the adults” took over. That’s one reason you pussies hated bad orange man so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Coronavirus has nothing to do with globalism. That was coming here no matter what the economic situation was. Neither economies or borders stop its spread.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
But you have been given a short demo of what anti-globalism looks like. The fact that anti-globalism causes inflation isn’t exactly a secret. That is Econ 101 material.
Oh man as much as I'd like to get in on this boomer hate derail, I want to go ahead and say that I support any move that never has us change the clocks again whether it be standard time or DST. Pick one and let's go. We can revisit the issue after one year and see if we really want the other option.
Hopefully we can some other things through congress that aren't so partisan- like getting rid of the penny or voting Florida out of the union.
This should be the next obvious bi-partisan "kumbaya" easy win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgonit
Which means those idiots will never get around to it.
I say we vote all States out of the union ASAPQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgonit
Washington DC and the territories:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
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What’s the difference? We are all going to be clamoring to hide in District 13 soon anyway.
Not States - the people of those regions can form States and petition the now non-existent congress for admission into the union.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgonit
But I assume DC would be returned to Maryland in the event of a mass dissolution. Or perhaps left as a parting gift to the empty suits.