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Harry Reid and his lie:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., pressed for passage, with the alarming news that one of the country's premier insurance companies was about to go bankrupt if the crisis was not quickly resolved.
"We don't have a lot of leeway on time," Reid told reporters in the Capitol. "One of the individuals in the caucus today talked about a major insurance company -- a major insurance company -- one with a name that everyone knows that's on the verge of going bankrupt. That's what this is all about."
He did not identify the insurance company, and later in the day Reid spokesman Jim Manley said the senator was speaking broadly and not referring to anything specific.
"Senator Reid is not personally aware of any particular company being on the verge of bankruptcy," Manley wrote in an e-mail to ABCNews.com. "Rather, his comments were meant to refer to the conditions in the financial sector generally. He regrets any confusion his comments may have caused."
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Harry Reid and his lie:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., pressed for passage, with the alarming news that one of the country's premier insurance companies was about to go bankrupt if the crisis was not quickly resolved.
"We don't have a lot of leeway on time," Reid told reporters in the Capitol. "One of the individuals in the caucus today talked about a major insurance company -- a major insurance company -- one with a name that everyone knows that's on the verge of going bankrupt. That's what this is all about."
He did not identify the insurance company, and later in the day Reid spokesman Jim Manley said the senator was speaking broadly and not referring to anything specific.
"Senator Reid is not personally aware of any particular company being on the verge of bankruptcy," Manley wrote in an e-mail to ABCNews.com. "Rather, his comments were meant to refer to the conditions in the financial sector generally. He regrets any confusion his comments may have caused."
They lie because they are politicians. All politicians lie Republicans Democrats Independents...they all lie.... They also like to appear to be experts on things they know absolutely nothing about.....
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All may shade the truth, but few are bold enough to tell a bald-faced lie like this one.
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Harry Reid is a jerk off, and a lot of people out here agree with me. Our problem is that guys like him get elected because of the other jerk offs from California that keep moving here.
I have several friends who have lived here their whole lives, some who are in their 60s. If you have ever seen the movie Casino, there is a scene where the wise guys pay off a young member of the Gaming Control Board. All of the older folks say that is Harry Reid. He was on the gaming commission for several years and always had his hand out.
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Obama Aide Accused of 'Lying' Over Anti-Romney Ad, Ties to Steelworker
- http://a57.foxnews.com/www.foxnews.c...808_173546.jpgObama for America
- Top Obama aide once hosted conference call with ex-steelworker Joe Soptic, featured in an ad tying his wife's death to Mitt Romney — despite claims that she and other Obama aides were not familiar with his case as the ad comes under fire
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Wait, I thought he didn't say it was true? :icon_roll:
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Harry Reid and his lie:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., pressed for passage, with the alarming news that one of the country's premier insurance companies was about to go bankrupt if the crisis was not quickly resolved.
"We don't have a lot of leeway on time," Reid told reporters in the Capitol. "One of the individuals in the caucus today talked about a major insurance company -- a major insurance company -- one with a name that everyone knows that's on the verge of going bankrupt. That's what this is all about."
He did not identify the insurance company, and later in the day Reid spokesman Jim Manley said the senator was speaking broadly and not referring to anything specific.
"Senator Reid is not personally aware of any particular company being on the verge of bankruptcy," Manley wrote in an e-mail to ABCNews.com. "Rather, his comments were meant to refer to the conditions in the financial sector generally. He regrets any confusion his comments may have caused."
A major US insurance company on the verge of bankruptcy? Who the hell would believe that? None of the "major" US insurance co's in the US posted a loss after the largest natural disaster (Katrina) in our history. They also have some of, if not the, highest paid CEO's. Anybody that bought that crap is absolutely, well, probably from California. Wouldn't take long for the other insurance Co's to pick-up the slack. I doubt many folks that have been "investing" in whole life ins would go broke if their ins co went under.
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And I would bet you any amount of money that Obama approved each one of these terrible lies.
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And which one of these Dems are lying through their teeth?
Wonder where AG Eric Holder fits in this picture.
Book: Blagojevich said he believed Rezko channeled $25,000 to Obama
Federal authorities did not think the claim was credible, authors say
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4938276.story
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Reid: “I don't think the burden should be on me,” he said. “The burden should be on him. He's the one I've alleged has not paid any taxes.”
Right. Because that's how it's done in this country. The burden of proof is on the accused.:laugh: Do people even hear how silly they sound when they say these things?
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A source has reported that Harry Reid has sex with goats. No, I don't have to prove it. The burden should be on him. He's the one I've alleged has had sex with goats.
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A major US insurance company on the verge of bankruptcy? Who the hell would believe that? None of the "major" US insurance co's in the US posted a loss after the largest natural disaster (Katrina) in our history. They also have some of, if not the, highest paid CEO's. Anybody that bought that crap is absolutely, well, probably from California. Wouldn't take long for the other insurance Co's to pick-up the slack. I doubt many folks that have been "investing" in whole life ins would go broke if their ins co went under.
Lest we forget:
AIG
Freddi Mac
Fannie Mae
Washington Mutual
Wachovia
Citigroup
Merril Lynch
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Insurance...not trading/loans. Granted, the insurance co's lose big when the markets lose but they all have the same advantage: raise premiums.
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Insurance...not trading/loans. Granted, the insurance co's lose big when the markets lose but they all have the same advantage: raise premiums.
All were major US insurance companies, though, and were on the verge of bankruptcy. The crisis is not only from trading/loans. A big problem was that insurance could not cover the loses and raising premiums wouldn't have done anything, which is why they all either failed, were sold, or taken over by government.
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Insurance...not trading/loans. Granted, the insurance co's lose big when the markets lose but they all have the same advantage: raise premiums.
There are some companies that are doing OK and some that are struggling. The companies that are struggling cannot raise premiums or they will lose business to the companies that are not struggling (have low premiums).
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Democrap/Obama lies finally coming back to haunt. :laugh: Straight off Drudge.
http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/7p...A_original.jpg
CANCER AD TURNS MALIGNANT
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libtards lie because liberalism (i.e. socialism) is nothing but a big lie. libtards are the pigs in Orwell's Animal Farm.
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libtards lie because liberalism (i.e. socialism) is nothing but a big lie. libtards are the pigs in Orwell's Animal Farm.
Liberalism does not equal socialism.
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Liberalism does not equal socialism.
Liberalism is the precursor of socialism.
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LookingForResults
Liberalism is the precursor of socialism.
And to modern conservatism.
It is incorrect to outright say liberalism equals socialism.
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LookingForResults
Liberalism is the precursor of socialism.
And eventually totalitarianism.
Dependence gives others power over you.
A little Walt Whitman from Leaves of Grass:
To the States or any one of them, or any city of the States, Resist
much, obey little,
Once unquestioning obedience, once fully enslaved,
Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city of this earth, ever
afterward resumes its liberty.
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Liberalism is the absolute precurser to Totalitarianism and Socialism.
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And I would bet you any amount of money that Obama approved each one of these terrible lies.
MSNBC and CNN are NOT reporting on their websites this morning that Obama and his Super PACs were just caught in major lies. And Obama and that female campaign manger are not apologizing!:furious3: That's because Obama doesn't know how to tell the truth. Lying is totally OK in his religion if it advances "the cause".
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It's a crock and just proves that the Liberals have most of the major media outlets under their thumb. Do you think they would let a Conservative get away this the junk that this horrible president has gotten away with.
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Liberalism is the absolute precurser to Totalitarianism and Socialism.
And every other political idea we exercise today.
Nothing can be said that make liberalism and socialism the same.
Case in point: the founding ideas of this nation that everyone here trumps as being the greatest for humanity, are liberal ideals. Does that make us socialist too?
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And every other political idea we exercise today.
Nothing can be said that make liberalism and socialism the same.
Case in point: the founding ideas of this nation that everyone here trumps as being the greatest for humanity, are liberal ideals. Does that make us socialist too?
Not sure where you came up with that one. Socialism and liberalism always leads to destruction of what once was great. It's the great dumbing down of a nation and it's people and character.
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And every other political idea we exercise today.
Nothing can be said that make liberalism and socialism the same.
Case in point: the founding ideas of this nation that everyone here trumps as being the greatest for humanity, are liberal ideals. Does that make us socialist too?
Technically, yes. Maybe we should stop calling what the dems represent liberalism, because it is most certainly not liberalism. It ceased being liberalism as soon as they started taking money from those that work and distributing it to those that don't. I see now that we are in a state of despotism/socialism where the individual matters less and less (and there are dictates from the government as to what parts of religious freedom they'll allow). From Wikipedia:
Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis)[1] is a broad political ideology or worldview founded on the ideas of liberty and equality.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally liberals support ideas such as capitalism (either regulated or not), constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights and the free exercise of religion.
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Not sure where you came up with that one. Socialism and liberalism always leads to destruction of what once was great. It's the great dumbing down of a nation and it's people and character.
I have to question how much you actually know about our founding and history. Everything that has happened from day one, the good and bad, is because of liberalism. Without liberalism, we would still be British.
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Come on JuBru, don't try to divert attention away from the important point here. You know exactly what I meant.
The Founding Fathers were "liberals" and the those that brought on the French Revolution (and soon thereafter Napoleon) were "liberals" using the classic definition. And there are countless other examples. But, the foundation of this nation, dating all the way back to the Founding Fathers, is one of small gov-mint, individual rights and responsibilities, free enterprise (Adam Smith), etc... and any deviation from that is liberal thinking, and in this case: socialism.
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Why must Democrats lie? ...because they are Democrats!
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There are some companies that are doing OK and some that are struggling. The companies that are struggling cannot raise premiums or they will lose business to the companies that are not struggling (have low premiums).
What MAJOR US Insurance Co is struggling? As far as I can see-none of them.
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Come on JuBru, don't try to divert attention away from the important point here. You know exactly what I meant.
The Founding Fathers were "liberals" and the those that brought on the French Revolution (and soon thereafter Napoleon) were "liberals" using the classic definition. And there are countless other examples. But, the foundation of this nation, dating all the way back to the Founding Fathers, is one of small gov-mint, individual rights and responsibilities, free enterprise (Adam Smith), etc... and any deviation from that is liberal thinking, and in this case: socialism.
Then call it was it is, socialism. Those ideals you list are still liberal ideas. I know it sucks to think you are a liberal in the grand political scheme, but take solace in knowing you haven't gone off the deep end like the socialist.
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What MAJOR US Insurance Co is struggling? As far as I can see-none of them.
None right now. They either failed, were sold, or taken over by government. Remember, this was from 2008, not now.
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I'm curious as to how they are getting around the law by being involved with Priorities USA.
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JuBru
I'm curious as to how they are getting around the law by being involved with Priorities USA.
Obama is the Law don't you know.
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Obama is the Law don't you know.
Attachment 9648
:laugh:
You're comment made me think of Stallone's line and of course, the internet has this.
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"Law is just ink on a sheet of paper." bh obammer
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Tyler, that article says nothing about her being a Democrat. Reminds me of the McCain volunteer who claimed she was attacked and someone carved a "B" into her face.
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Tyler, that article says nothing about her being a Democrat. Reminds me of the McCain volunteer who claimed she was attacked and someone carved a "B" into her face.
Dem or Rep that was stupid to do as was for the two conservative groups to try and block the fairness act.
Stupidity is alive and well in Nebraska
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Tyler, that article says nothing about her being a Democrat. Reminds me of the McCain volunteer who claimed she was attacked and someone carved a "B" into her face.
I would have thought by now you have realized that anyone, rather it's truthful or not, that has even the slightest of center and left stance, is automatically labeled a Democrat.
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Dem or Rep that was stupid to do as was for the two conservative groups to try and block the fairness act.
Stupidity is alive and well in Nebraska
Any type of "fairness" act or doctrine inherently creates more inequality and unfairness.
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I would have thought by now you have realized that anyone, rather it's truthful or not, that has even the slightest of center and left stance, is automatically labeled a Democrat.
Any type of "fairness" act or doctrine inherently creates more inequality and unfairness.
Will you please stop making sense lol, still that group trying to block it was stupid but I do see what your saying.
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And lie some more. I guess with her reputation shot anyway the Dems figure why not have her lie some more to their such well educated base.
http://a57.foxnews.com/www.foxnews.c...904_174416.jpg
Dems Face Backlash Over Israel Comment, Platform
Israeli official denies calling GOP 'dangerous,' as DNC calls quote by Wasserman Schultz 'misrepresented'
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It's never ending!!! Pretty good and honest 3 page read.:furious3:
Romney Can Still Overcome Obama's Dishonest, Divisive Campaign
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articl...ampaign?page=2
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So true!!
Gloves off! Obama scorched as 'serial liar'
'Lies just flow out of his mouth as naturally as a baby's cries'
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/rush-limb...a-serial-liar/
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And another example.
Obama’s Hurricane Hypocrisy Knows No Bounds
Posted by: MacAoidh on Wednesday, October 10, 2012, 9:24
Last week a 2007 video surfaced in which then-candidate Barack Obama regaled a mostly-black crowd at Hampton University in Virginia about what he called a failure of the federal government to waive state and local matching funds under the Stafford Act for Katrina relief.
Obama noted that the federal government had waived the Stafford Act match for Hurricane Andrew and 9/11 relief, but suggested that Louisiana and other Gulf Coast states had been neglected for such a waiver because the funds would be destined for too many black people for the federal government’s tastes.
“What’s happening down in New Orleans?” Obama thundered. “Where’s your dollar? Where’s your Stafford Act Money? Makes no sense! It tells me, the people down in New Orleans, they don’t care about as much!”
But Obama was lying, and he knew it. He knew it because less than two weeks before that speech, he himself had been one of only 14 senators opposing a bill which would have provided some $7 billion in Katrina relief with a full waiver of Stafford Act matching requirements.
The hypocrisy of that fact, once it was revealed by Fox News’ Eric Bolling, percolated in the conservative blogosphere as an addendum to the national conversation about Obama’s Hampton speech race-baiting, complete with a feigned Southern black accent.
But today, writing at the Daily Caller, Quin Hillyer exposes that not only was Obama lying about the federal response to Katrina, his actions in the aftermath of Hurricane Isaac show a continued hypocrisy toward disaster relief on the Gulf Coast…
Rest of article
http://thehayride.com/2012/10/obamas...ows-no-bounds/
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Louisiana is a red state. Obama isn't worried about votes there.
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Louisiana is a red state. Obama isn't worried about votes there.
True. That article needs to be in Florida and other Hurricane prone states on the east coast that are battleground states.
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It's pretty easy to buy 400,000+ votes in Louisiana.
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Lies?
Ya mean like this Libyan mess?
Like Fast & Furious?
Like not raising taxes on everyone?
Like saying the stimulus would lower unemployment?
Like saying obummer would cut the deficit in half?
Like saying obummercare would lower the cost of HC?
Those kind of lies?
Can you believe the blatant lies the 'craps are saying about Bengazi? Wow...
BTW, obummer/Panetta have now put US Troops on the ground in Jordan, along the Syrian border. Yo, salty! How much is this operation costing we taxpayers?
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Obama and Hillary might both go down because of this cover-up of the deaths of 4 Americans!! Did you guys hear the Congressional hearings today??
And the liberal media is ignoring it!!!
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Obama and Hillary might both go down because of this cover-up of the deaths of 4 Americans!! Did you guys hear the Congressional hearings today??
And the liberal media is ignoring it!!!
Congressional hearings? That's just the Repubs playing politics.
Nah, no democrap has to worry about "going down" for anything. They routinely break the law, trash the Constitution, commit fraud, waste $billions in taxpayer money....and nothing ever happens. One reason is they simply ignore calls to resign, etc... "Make me!" they say, and no one can.
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Here ya go all you Obamacare fans...one of literally thousands of companies already preparing for it. Of course, only the big companies are showing up in articles. I've read dozens. This one happens to be national, so I thought I'd post it...
http://bighealthreport.com/5278/koda...ion-liability/
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Here ya go all you Obamacare fans...one of literally thousands of companies already preparing for it. Of course, only the big companies are showing up in articles. I've read dozens. This one happens to be national, so I thought I'd post it...
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October 11, 2012
Kodak to end healthcare benefits, solves $1.2 billion liability
http://bighealthreport.com/5278/koda...ion-liability/
WOW! Exactly what's going to happen as well as other crazy things if Obama gets re-elected.
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WOW! Exactly what's going to happen as well as other crazy things if Obama gets re-elected.
It isn't what is going to happen. It is happening right now. We are seeing dozens of companies, even here in North Louisiana, already making changes. Crap, one of the business of which I am associated just received our renewal this week that included a 20% increase. I know of three businesses in Monroe (found out about 2 this morning), each with over 500 employees, that are planning on closing their doors in 2014 because Obamacare will add between $900,000 and $2million to their costs, depending on which business is referenced. That is 2,000+ Monroe citizens that will be unemployed.
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The cost of HC insurance has already gone up! The first hit was in Jan, or maybe early Feb, 2009. Later there was another slightly smaller increase. These two were across the board increases. Now, other plans, depending on who you have, have also ticked up some over the past 4 years.
Today, right now, 150 million Americans are covered by private, company-supplied health insurance. If obummer gets re-elected, about 15 million people will lose health insurance the next day. Then, who knows what the other companies will do. But one has to assume many (most? all!!?) will follow suit and also drop the health insurance plans. Why not? Why endure all that extra cost, especially if foreign competitors already don't have it, and then your domestic competitors also drop it? A company wishing to "do the right thing" will be at an extreme competitive disadvantage...short term. One can assume, any company(s) that maintain health coverage for its employees could, in time, attract and retain the very best that field offers. But, that would take time to shake out, and that firm may already have lost significant market share, and/or no longer exist.
An obummer re-election will mark the end of the world as we know it.
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These are the same people that invested the better part of 8 years calling Bush and other republicans liars over the Patriot Act, Iraq, Gitmo, etc. It's nice watching them squirm and writhe around while the get a taste of their own medicine.
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These are the same people that invested the better part of 8 years calling Bush and other republicans liars over the Patriot Act, Iraq, Gitmo, etc. It's nice watching them squirm and writhe around while the get a taste of their own medicine.
but think of the childrens....
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...he is one dumb sonofabitch!
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Joe B is a stoopidsunovabeech
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What are you talking about? Ryan cut embassey security by $300 million. Why don't you blame him for the lack of security for our embassey folks?
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What are you talking about? Ryan cut embassey security by $300 million. Why don't you blame him for the lack of security for our embassey folks?
Stop lying.
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What are you talking about? Ryan cut embassey security by $300 million. Why don't you blame him for the lack of security for our embassey folks?
OMG.....seriously?
"Ryan cut...." He did? Really? There was NO BUDGET passed, again, for the 4th straight year (unconstitutional, BTW), and therefore another "continuing resolution" was issued. I know you are clueless what this all means. In a nutshell, the budget for all line items, including embassy security is the same as it was last year, which, with the automatic increase, was the same as the previous year, and so on. There has been NO CUTS to any budgets. That's why the deficit and the debt keeps growing.
Second point, it is still up to the Admin to allocate resources as needed. Fact is, the obummerites ignored requests to beef up security at Benghazi and now 4 Americans are dead because of it. Their blood is on the hands of all of you libtards.
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What are you talking about? Ryan cut embassey security by $300 million. Why don't you blame him for the lack of security for our embassey folks?
The moron in the WH pretty much had them lined up and shot.
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Here's one I got asked to address while serving on a panel discussion on Monday night:
"The U.S. spends more than any other country, and is the 37th healthiest." These statistics are used by politicians to claim that the quality of healthcare is disproportionate to the cost. It is not.
There are five determining factors in this calculation.- Health Level, as defined by a measure of life expectancy, shows how healthy a country's population is. This factor gets a 25% weight.
- Responsiveness, which includes factors such as speed of health services, privacy protections, choice of doctors, and quality of amenities. This factor gets a 12.5% weight.
- Financial Fairness, which measures how progressive or regressive the financing of a country's health care system is - that is, whether or not the financial burdens are borne by those who are economically better off. This factor receives a 25% weight.
- Health Distribution, which measures how equally a nation's health care resources are allocated among the population. This factor receives a 25% weight.
- Responsiveness Distribution, which measures how equally a nation's health care responsiveness is spread through society. This factor gets a 12.5% weight.
Once these statistics were collected, the World Health Organization combined them into two summary rankings. One, called "overall attainment," is the basic weighted average of these five factors. The other, called "overall performance," takes that number and adjusts it for how well a country's health system was doing compared to how well WHO's experts believed it should be doing based on education level and economic resources. By that measure, the US is 15th out of 191 countries.
We have the number 1 system in the world regarding the combination of capabilities, quality, education, and technology. The financial model and delivery model are what is broken. The issue with health is not medicine. And the often quoted "costs" of healthcare in this country are NOT representative of the true costs of medicine in this country. Fixing the finanical model will fix the delivery model, and will ultimately raise those rankings into the top 3. It's the backwards financial model that is currently dragging them down.
Here's your link Salty: http://www.photius.com/rankings/worl...nce_ranks.html
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And here is a new whopper from Biden. Again when you don't have a good record to run on you have to lie I guess.
Biden claims he voted AGAINST two wars he voted FOR...
http://freebeacon.com/biden-claims-h...tan-iraq-wars/
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His lies to Americans are going to bite him in the arse.
Coal Miners to President: Stop 'Absolute Lies'...
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Make no mistake, they hate him here in WV.
The coal miners union has stated it will support no candidate, because Obama is so anti coal.
Obama is, however, for the union fat cat thugs (much like community organizers) that sponge their undeserved 6 figure salaries off of the hard-working miners.
Remember, a convicted felon serving time in Texas almost beat obama in the dem primary in WV. In a pro-union state, that should tell you lots.
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Liar In Chief.
Even CNN is finally waking up somewhat. Got to love Obama's Romnesia name for Romney when he and Hillary conveniently can't even remember what happened in Benghazi just weeks ago on 9-11. And this is nowhere to be found on MSNBC today. But liberals will still ignore Obama's and Hillary's lies to America due to their one issue voting.
Emails detail unfolding Benghazi attack on September 11th...
6:07 PM 9/11/12: 'Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility'...
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E-mails: White House knew of Benghazi terror claim
Federal officials knew an Islamist group claimed credit for the deadly consulate attack just two hours after the violence ended, e-mails obtained by CNN show. FULL STORY
What the administration has said
HE KNEW
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There was a fair amount of publicity of the original story. It of course made news overseas as well.
Crickets with the follow up.
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I guess this thread should have been labeled/titles, "Why Must Democrats Tell Lie, Cheat and Steal?" :D Seems as if there is at least one story per day.
NC voters say ballot cast for Romney came up Obama on machine...
REPORT: VA congressman's son caught on undercover video discussing voter fraud...
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"These people?" How does this story match the thread title?
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"These people?" How does this story match the thread title?
I think he's taking the odds and running with them.
It plays more into the media bias thread than this one, though.
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I think he's taking the odds and running with them.
It plays more into the media bias thread than this one, though.
I don't see anything in the posted story that indicates media bias either.
"Taking the odds?" Try "stereotyping."
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I don't like the KKK either.
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I don't see anything in the posted story that indicates media bias either.
"Taking the odds?" Try "stereotyping."
The media bias is in that it was plastered everywhere domestically and internationally because they thought it was a KKK attack. But now that they know the truth, there is no retraction or updates of the story. So now it looks like the thing you want to hate - stereotyping - is continuing about white men in Louisiana and the South and we are all racist card carrying members of the KKK.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with stereotyping, though. It's the basis for all knowledge, imo.
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The media bias is in that it was plastered everywhere domestically and internationally because they thought it was a KKK attack. But now that they know the truth, there is no retraction or updates of the story. So now it looks like the thing you want to hate - stereotyping - is continuing about white men in Louisiana and the South and we are all racist card carrying members of the KKK.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with stereotyping, though. It's the basis for all knowledge, imo.
Yes, it was everywhere. My question for Tyler was "where in the posted story" do you see this? Answer: nowhere.
Absolutely nothing wrong with stereotyping? Do you mean "absolutely" or just in some cases (with which I would agree)?
Riiiiiight--painting with a broad brush--great idea! The basis for all knowledge? Really?
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Yes, it was everywhere. My question for Tyler was "where in the posted story" do you see this? Answer: nowhere.
Absolutely nothing wrong with stereotyping? Do you mean "absolutely" or just in some cases (with which I would agree)?
Riiiiiight--painting with a broad brush--great idea! The basis for all knowledge? Really?
So as usual you were looking at it wrong.
I mean absolutely. It is up to the individual to prove they aren't the stereotype (assuming a negative one). If someone is unwilling to learn that the person isn't, that's on them.'
Yes, basis for all knowledge. Stereotyping has pushed every discovery, caused every invention, and more. Everything is created because of a bias against something else. Admittedly, there are some exceptions out there.
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So as usual you were looking at it wrong.
I mean absolutely. It is up to the individual to prove they aren't the stereotype (assuming a negative one). If someone is unwilling to learn that the person isn't, that's on them.'
Yes, basis for all knowledge. Stereotyping has pushed every discovery, caused every invention, and more. Everything is created because of a bias against something else. Admittedly, there are some exceptions out there.
Hmmm...
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It is up to the individual to prove they aren't the stereotype (assuming a negative one). If someone is unwilling to learn that the person isn't, that's on them.'
That's some world in which you live. Negative stereotypes apply to everyone in a group (guilty until proven innocent). Positive stereotypes are the exception to the rule, I guess? Then how would they be stereotypes?
You seem to fancy yourself a bit of a philosopher, JB. I'll buy that--you are a bit (albeit a tiny bit) of a philosopher. :laugh:
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So as usual you were looking at it wrong.
Except I wasn't. Tyler posted a story about a woman setting fire to herself in a thread titled (oddly) "Why Must Democrats Tell Lie?" The story has absolutely nothing to do with Democrats. Lying, yes. Democrats, no.
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That's some world in which you live. Negative stereotypes apply to everyone in a group (guilty until proven innocent). Positive stereotypes are the exception to the rule, I guess? Then how would they be stereotypes?
You seem to fancy yourself a bit of a philosopher, JB. I'll buy that--you are a bit (albeit a tiny bit) of a philosopher. :laugh:
Why would you want to disprove a positive stereotype?
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Except I wasn't. Tyler posted a story about a woman setting fire to herself in a thread titled (oddly) "Why Must Democrats Tell Lie?" The story has absolutely nothing to do with Democrats. Lying, yes. Democrats, no.
You're confusing yourself too. Go back and read everything. You didn't ask TT about media bias, you made the statement towards me about it because I said it belongs there and not here.
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Except I wasn't. Tyler posted a story about a woman setting fire to herself in a thread titled (oddly) "Why Must Democrats Tell Lie?" The story has absolutely nothing to do with Democrats. Lying, yes. Democrats, no.
Sure it had to do with democrats when the girl said she was attacked because she was wearing an Obama shirt.
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The story has absolutely nothing to do with Democrats. Lying, yes. Democrats, no.
Someone who would set fire to herself absolutely proves she's a democrat. :D
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Breaking my rule for one post on here........ I am so relieved that only Democrats lie. I thought all politicians lied. Glad to have this bit of knowledge. Maybe I should just vote Republican since none of them lie. Mitt and GW Bush never mislead or told a lie is VERY comforting. :rolleyes:
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Why would you want to disprove a positive stereotype?
You're confusing yourself too. Go back and read everything. You didn't ask TT about media bias, you made the statement towards me about it because I said it belongs there and not here.
Where did I say anything about wanting to disprove a positive stereotype?
You are right--I did refer back to the wrong thing (it's called a mistake; people make them; wise people admit it).
But, you keep missing the point, JB. This discussion stems from Tyler's post. Where is the media bias in the article he posted?