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Too early for a 2-deep?
Now that expansion seems to have died down, does anybody have a crack at the 2-deep?
The changes in scheme make it mystery, especially at OL.
Starters:
Outside receiver 1: Tim Molton
Outside receiver 2: DJ St Julien?
Inside receiver 1: Richie Casey
Inside receiver 2: Eric Harper
RB: Lennon Creer
QB: Ross Jenkins (up in the air)
LT: Jordan Mills?
LG: Saia? Warner? Shepperd?
C: Roberts
RG: Kavitt or Miles?
RT: McGill (or at LT if Mills not starting) Harmon starts here if not McGill?
K: Nelson
P: The big beaver
DS: Cuthbert
DE: Broha
DT: Hitt
DT: Ellis/Randle?
DT: Lacey? Grigsby? IKE?
How are White and Longino looking?
Sam: Dudley
Mike: Cole
Will: Rust?
SS: Tank
FS: Boyd?
CB: Carter
CB: Victorian
2nd team:
Outside rec 1: Ahmad Paige
Outside rec 2: Jacarri Jackson
Inside rec 1: Livas
Inside rec 2: Spence
RB: Fitte/Morrow/Duplessis/Compton - anybody know the order?
QB: Ensminger (or Jenkins)
LT: Harmon if not stating at RT?
LG: Saia/Warner/Shepperd?
C: Warner?
RG: Kavitt or Miles?
RT: Harmon
K: Hinton
P: Glasgow
DE: Grigsby?
DT: White/Randle/Longino? Tillman?
DT: White/Randle/Longino?
DE: Whoever is not starting on the 1's
SAM: R. Porter? Is IKE a DE or LB after spring?
Mike: S. Randle
Will: K. Washington, CJ Broades?
SS: CJ Broades?
FS: J. Crowe?
CB: O. Paige
CB: Goodman? Giles?
I need the practice watchers and experts to help me out!
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OR1 - Tim Molton, Paige
OR2 - St. Julien, J. Jackson
IR 1 - Livas, Casey (if Livas is healthy)
IR 2 - Eric Harper, C. Spence
RB - Fitte, Creer
QB - Jenkins, Ensminger
LT - McGill, Mills
LG - Saia, Miles
C - Roberts, Shepperd
RG - Warner, Best?
RT - Harmon (:bigcry:), Cavitt
K - Nelson
P - OSU kid
DS - Cuthbert
LE - Broha, Lacy
DT - Hitt, ? (White, Longino, Logan have all under-whelmed)
DT - R. Randle, Mt. Ellis
RE - Grigsby, Zeno
GATA Back (nickel thing) - Tank, Giles (?)
MLB - Cole, S. Randle
OLB - Dudley, Washington/Rust (depending on situation)
SS - Broades, ?
FS - Boyd, ?
CB - I have no clue. We have a ton, and several were hurt for spring. This goes for most of the Safeties, too.
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Yeah, Tank will be #1 nickel (or whatever it's called where he can come up as a quasi-LB)
At S we have Broades, Boyd, Crowe and then who? Giles? I don't know if he's going to be a CB or S?
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Yeah. The DB's were all over the place (at least it seemed that way) during the spring. I think we'll end up surprised at where people start and play.
Either way, Spang has tools like he's never had out there, and the new schemes are vicious. It'll be fun to watch.
I think Javontay might have actually been Tank's #1 backup during spring. That sounds more right than Giles. I guess that would put Giles back at CB? Or maybe at safety? He just seems big for a corner.
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FishingBack
Yeah, Tank will be #1 nickel (or whatever it's called where he can come up as a quasi-LB)
At S we have Broades, Boyd, Crowe and then who? Giles? I don't know if he's going to be a CB or S?
Giles is a corner but I think he was hurt in the spring. I think healthy he is a solid #2. Jared Edwards is another safety that will get pt, maybe ahead of Crowe. My guess is :
Safety: 1.) Boyd 2.) Tank 3.)CJB 4.) Edwards 5.) Crowe 6.) Kansas JUCO
Corner: 1.) Vic 2.)Carter 3.) O.P. 4.)Giles 5.) Ryan Williams 6.) D. Evans 7.) St. Vil 8.) Goodman 9.) Kendall Hayes
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I would start Ensminger at QB and Paige at Outside WR opposite Molton.
I'm not sold on the Oline guys right now. Don't think they looked very good during the Spring.
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Is Jordan Mills doing ok?
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FishingBack
Is Jordan Mills doing ok?
I think there was an article or an inside source that said he was having some personal problems during spring. He did start the spring running with the 1's, with McGill at RT, but about half way through, Mills went to 2nd string and Cud was bumped up.
Not sure if that has all been resolved or not, but Mills definitely has the skills to be our starting LT, and I think McGill is a natural RT (and a damn good one, at that).
Hopefully this 'situation', whatever it is, will work itself out by the time the season starts.
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Guys don't forget we got a new QB from California. Hear he is pretty salty. I think we have new competition at the QB position.
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Tbone1
I would start Ensminger at QB and Paige at Outside WR opposite Molton.
I'm not sold on the Oline guys right now. Don't think they looked very good during the Spring.
I think if we played tomorrow, Molton & Paige would be OR's & Casey & Eric Harper would be IR,s. Our coaches think Jacarri Jackson is going to be special along with St. Julien. My favorite, David Gru, will probably red-shirt in 2010.
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DAIQUIRIDAWG
Guys don't forget we got a new QB from California. Hear he is pretty salty. I think we have new competition at the QB position.
Not familar with this...tried to find something about it but I was unsuccessful, turns out my google-skills are below par.
Care to elaborate?
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Am I missing something, why is Cruz Williams not being mentioned?
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Looked like he was in slow motion and timid during the spring. Improved some after they moved him inside. Uphill climd due to inside numbers and talent. Prolly going to travel 12. MY count is: 1 Molten 2 Paige 3 Jacarri 4 Livas 5 Casey 6 Harper 7 St Julien 8 Spence 9 Fortson 10 Ikharo 11 R.P. 12 several will compete, probably Cruz or the big walkon can't remember his name (not Bru).
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I must have missed something, I'll have to go google Ikharo.
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TechDynamic
Not familar with this...tried to find something about it but I was unsuccessful, turns out my google-skills are below par.
Care to elaborate?
It was an easy search :icon_wink:. Should have gone to bleedtechblue.com!
Tarik Hakmi
Foothill CC (Los Altos Hills, CA)
http://rivals.yahoo.com/louisianatec...IJWndB0D9NsZB4
Ht:6'3"
Wt:230 lbs
Class:2010 (Junior College)
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Taulib Ikharo, WR, 5'11 180
Laney College, CA (originally from Oakland). Named to first team all-conference golden gate team (whatever that is).
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FishingBack
I must have missed something, I'll have to go google Ikharo.
Laney College, CA that may be Holley. You know my memory KHD.
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FishingBack
Taulib Ikharo, WR, 5'11 180
Laney College, CA (originally from Oakland). Named to first team all-conference golden gate team (whatever that is).
Taulib Ikharo, WR
2009 Highlights - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cljk1yXOCg
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qng001
Impressive accuracy.
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Guisslapp
Impressive accuracy.
Is this kid a 3-2 or a 3-3?
Video says 'freshman', so I'm led to think he redshirted as a JC and he's a 3-3.
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Guisslapp
Impressive accuracy.
His OL looked kinda sucky too. Seemed like he had to scramble or had some kind of pressure every pass.
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FishingBack
Taulib Ikharo, WR, 5'11 180
Laney College, CA (originally from Oakland). Named to first team all-conference golden gate team (whatever that is).
Kind of reminds me of Eric Newman.
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I am really intrigued by all the talent that SD has brought in after the signing period. Does any one know where we stand on schlorships? Imo some of these guys are going to get playing time from the get go! I definitely think the bar is being raised! Go dawgs!
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Had one left, now two (depending on walk-ons coming on and off).
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qng001
He seemed to have good presence, looked at different receivers, good touch, good accuracy, and can stretch the field. Of course this is a highlight film so you never know, but what was on there looked like everything we have been missing.
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Juice752
His OL looked kinda sucky too. Seemed like he had to scramble or had some kind of pressure every pass.
It definitely looks like most of his throws were under pressure. Not bad throwing for a guy constantly on his heels.
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DAIQUIRIDAWG
Guys don't forget we got a new QB from California. Hear he is pretty salty. I think we have new competition at the QB position.
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qng001
Thanks! So since this fella is a Junior College transfer...he'll have to sit a year, correct? So this year the competition is still between Jenkins & Ensminger (unless another steps up...).
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TechDynamic
Thanks! So since this fella is a Junior College transfer...he'll have to sit a year, correct? So this year the competition is still between Jenkins & Ensminger (unless another steps up...).
he should be able to play this year... and rumor has it that he will win the job hands down...
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number8
he should be able to play this year... and rumor has it that he will win the job hands down...
As I understand it, he will have 3 to get in 3 & is immediately eligible. He will be here for the second summer session. I do not know where the rumor came from that he will win the job hands down but, if he is BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE ( and none of us know that, not even the coaches ), then he will be the starter. This new group of coaches is all about performance--perform, you play, regardless of WHAT you have been or WHERE you have been.
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Well, I didn't think it was possible, but I'm actually even more excited about this football season!
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Ok. I'm impressed with his highlight film. Great passing and I liked his wheels. May not beat out the two seniors, but it's going to be interesting the next few years with him, Cameron, Raulston, and Burch.
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Do you remember a few years ago when Boise State would come into JAS & beat our brains out with WHITE running backs? Well, this guy we have got from California named Ray Holley has just AMAZED everyone the first couple of weeks in the summer workouts--quick, tough, strong as a bull, & will do anything, ANYTHING, to please Damon & his teammates. First time in a long time the entire coaching staff is impressed by a white RB. Please know the only reason I distinguish his skin color is because of the RARITY of a caucasian RB on almost any level of organized football. From what I have heard & SEEN, this guy will bring a whole lot of excitement to our football team whether running, catching, or playing special teams. I literally cannot wait until all of you get a chance to see Ray Holley!!
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SixWings
I think there was an article or an inside source that said he was having some personal problems during spring. He did start the spring running with the 1's, with McGill at RT, but about half way through, Mills went to 2nd string and Cud was bumped up.
Not sure if that has all been resolved or not, but Mills definitely has the skills to be our starting LT, and I think McGill is a natural RT (and a damn good one, at that).
Hopefully this 'situation', whatever it is, will work itself out by the time the season starts.
If we were to play on Saturday, McGill would start at LT, Saia at LG, Roberts at C, Warner at RG, & Harmon at RT. Like many of you, I think that Jordan Mills will work his way back into the starting lineup with Cavitt, Miles, & Matt Sheppard ready to go in the event of injury or poor performance by a starter.
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Looks like he can put the ball where it needs to be while getting drilled at the same time. Looks good.
(edit: ill go ahead and say it, because I just noticed this....TWSS)
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MICKEYS14
Do you remember a few years ago when Boise State would come into JAS & beat our brains out with WHITE running backs? Well, this guy we have got from California named Ray Holley has just AMAZED everyone the first couple of weeks in the summer workouts--quick, tough, strong as a bull, & will do anything, ANYTHING, to please Damon & his teammates. First time in a long time the entire coaching staff is impressed by a white RB. Please know the only reason I distinguish his skin color is because of the RARITY of a caucasian RB on almost any level of organized football. From what I have heard & SEEN, this guy will bring a whole lot of excitement to our football team whether running, catching, or playing special teams. I literally cannot wait until all of you get a chance to see Ray Holley!!
Holley continues to run over skeptics following Coast career
Thursday, June 10, 2010
For recently graduated Orange Coast College football standout Ray Holley, that catchy phrase has been a way of life as the 5-foot-9, 195-pound running back will take his athletic and academic talents to Louisiana Tech University.
"Throughout my life, I've tried to not let anything discourage me from what I want to accomplish, in football or in life," Holley said. "At Louisiana Tech, there are seven other running backs at practice and they each have specific talents that they bring to the table. Some are bigger, some are faster, some are stronger -- but I hope to prove to the coaches that I have a little bit of everything and that I deserve the opportunity."
...more
http://www.orangecoastcollege.edu/Cm...contactid=8857
Ray Holley
2009 Highlight Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8uGdX7Nt0k
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MICKEYS14
Do you remember a few years ago when Boise State would come into JAS & beat our brains out with WHITE running backs? Well, this guy we have got from California named Ray Holley has just AMAZED everyone the first couple of weeks in the summer workouts--quick, tough, strong as a bull, & will do anything, ANYTHING, to please Damon & his teammates. First time in a long time the entire coaching staff is impressed by a white RB. Please know the only reason I distinguish his skin color is because of the RARITY of a caucasian RB on almost any level of organized football. From what I have heard & SEEN, this guy will bring a whole lot of excitement to our football team whether running, catching, or playing special teams. I literally cannot wait until all of you get a chance to see Ray Holley!!
I'm hearing the same.
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MICKEYS14
Do you remember a few years ago when Boise State would come into JAS & beat our brains out with WHITE running backs? Well, this guy we have got from California named Ray Holley has just AMAZED everyone the first couple of weeks in the summer workouts--quick, tough, strong as a bull, & will do anything, ANYTHING, to please Damon & his teammates. First time in a long time the entire coaching staff is impressed by a white RB. Please know the only reason I distinguish his skin color is because of the RARITY of a caucasian RB on almost any level of organized football. From what I have heard & SEEN, this guy will bring a whole lot of excitement to our football team whether running, catching, or playing special teams. I literally cannot wait until all of you get a chance to see Ray Holley!!
Coach that's great to hear and confirms what I suspected! From early thread he'll look great as a gunner on special teams. Thanks for the update:icon_wink:
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MICKEYS14
Do you remember a few years ago when Boise State would come into JAS & beat our brains out with WHITE running backs? Well, this guy we have got from California named Ray Holley has just AMAZED everyone the first couple of weeks in the summer workouts--quick, tough, strong as a bull, & will do anything, ANYTHING, to please Damon & his teammates. First time in a long time the entire coaching staff is impressed by a white RB. Please know the only reason I distinguish his skin color is because of the RARITY of a caucasian RB on almost any level of organized football. From what I have heard & SEEN, this guy will bring a whole lot of excitement to our football team whether running, catching, or playing special teams. I literally cannot wait until all of you get a chance to see Ray Holley!!
+1 Luke Lipencott from Nevada wasn't much fun either
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Ray Holley: After looking at both his High School and JC highlight videos along with looking at the numbers he has put up over his HS & JC carreers, I am very impressed with not only the talent level he possess, but also how determined and tough this kid is on the football field. He has good speed (great acceleration when he hits his hole and turns the corner), great vision, good moves (spins & jukes), great balance, and incredible power for a back his size(reminds me of Daniel Porter in that respect). On his films, he never went down after the first for even second hit. He has a great stiff arm and also seems to have a good catching skills.
I would not be surprised to see him get some PT as running back and he definitely will be valuable on special teams. I am excited to see him on the field along with all the other talent we will have this year.
I am going to go ahead and open up a can of worms, but I have seen this happen since I played HS football back in the earlly 90's. According to all the articles I have read on the kid, he has not had any other D-1 offers, much less much attention thrown his way. I believe that this can be attributed to reverse discrimination when it comes to white athletes at the skill positions. Sure white boys can play on the lines or QB, or maybe even a "possession" receiver every once in a while, but RB come on. This thinking is a stereotype that has been perpetuated for many years by white coaches. It is amazing to me that talent, drive, and discipline like this can be ignored by most coaches. However, it looks like our coaches have brains and can recognize talent no matter the skin color and for that I am very thankful.
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TECH97
He has a great stiff
twss.
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TECH97
Ray Holley: After looking at both his High School and JC highlight videos along with looking at the numbers he has put up over his HS & JC carreers, I am very impressed with not only the talent level he possess, but also how determined and tough this kid is on the football field.
Me too! I think we have a real sleeper here. I love what I have read about his attitude, seems like a leader to me. Not sure how much time he gets at RB, but I think he helps the team out in a lot of other areas.
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Originally Posted by
MICKEYS14
Do you remember a few years ago when Boise State would come into JAS & beat our brains out with WHITE running backs? Well, this guy we have got from California named Ray Holley has just AMAZED everyone the first couple of weeks in the summer workouts--quick, tough, strong as a bull, & will do anything, ANYTHING, to please Damon & his teammates. First time in a long time the entire coaching staff is impressed by a white RB. Please know the only reason I distinguish his skin color is because of the RARITY of a caucasian RB on almost any level of organized football. From what I have heard & SEEN, this guy will bring a whole lot of excitement to our football team whether running, catching, or playing special teams. I literally cannot wait until all of you get a chance to see Ray Holley!!
Coach,
I know for a fact that we had coaches (I will not name names) who absolutely looked the other way, if anyone would bring up a caucasian running back. HD can tell a 'horror' story and I know one personally who wanted to come to Tech, but we blew the recruitment because we were not that interested (I know his family very, very well). He went to BR instead and starred! He actually later played in the NFL!
Not being racist here but it can cut both ways........ glad we are finally 'colored blind'!
DFiH
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Holley has great balance but he is right when he says we have some backs that are stronger and some backs that are faster. We have a lot of good backs on our roster. I hope he sticks with it and works hard. It'll pay off.
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FishingBack
Holley has great balance but he is right when he says we have some backs that are stronger and some backs that are faster. We have a lot of good backs on our roster. I hope he sticks with it and works hard. It'll pay off.
Agreed. Looks like the RB competition just got that much better, which btw should be quite interesting considering TF and SD's style of offense.
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TechDynamic
Agreed. Looks like the RB competition just got that much better, which btw should be quite interesting considering TF and SD's style of offense.
There will be a lot more "Move the Chains" cheer this year.
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A few guesstimates highlighted in Red
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FishingBack
Starters:
Outside receiver 1: Tim Molton
Outside receiver 2: Ahmed Paige
Inside receiver 1: Phillip Livas
Inside receiver 2: Eric Harper
RB: Lennon Creer
QB: Ross Jenkins (up in the air)
LT: Jordan Mills
LG: Saia
C: Roberts
RG: Kavitt
RT: McGill
K: Nelson
P: The big beaver
DS: Cuthbert
DE: Broha
DT: Hitt
DT: Randle
DE: Lacey
Sam: Dudley
Mike: Cole
Will: Rust?
SS: Tank
FS: Boyd
CB: Carter
CB: Victorian
2nd team:
Outside rec 1: DJ St. Juilien
Outside rec 2: Jacarri Jackson
Inside rec 1: Richie Casey
Inside rec 2: Spence
RB: Fitte
QB: Ensminger (or Jenkins)
LT: Harmon
LG: Shepperd
C: Warner
RG: Miles
RT: Harmon
K: Hinton
P: Hylander
DE: Grigsby
DT: White
DT: Ellis
DE: IK E (Passing downs)
SAM: R. Porter
Mike: S. Randle
Will: K. Washington
SS: CJ Broades
FS: J. Crowe
CB: O. Paige
CB: Goodman
FINALLY!!!! Now we can talk about GOOD STUFF!!!!
I don't think that it will really matter at WR. All of them will see the field and all of them will get some passes thrown to them. I sure hope that we find out of the QB's that do that whole look left, look right, look middle then throw kind of things that we see other guys doing. I don't understand why they do that, but it looks cool.
At RB, I think that Creer will get 50% of the carries with Fitte getting 30%, and Duplessis getting 20%. The other guys will get a carry here and there, but I wouldn't expect much else unless we have some injuries.
I'm worried about finding playing time for Solomon Randle. We have 2 ALL WAC MLB's. That's the first time that I've seen that said since I've been following TECH football. I hope that he doesn't get frustrated and look to transfer, because he's damn good. Will they put them both on the field some and have one of them play Sam?? Maybe so.
At Safety, we'll have Tank roaming everywhere, and then Bad Chad on the field the most. CJ Broades will sub with Tank and Crowe backing up Bad Chad. Don't be surprised to see them all on the field together when Tank plays up in the box or the Nickel.
I would LOVE to see Jellybean play often, but I think that Randle is still going to edge him out to start the year and about halfway through the season, he'll pick up more time and likely be the starter. I look for the same thing with IKE. Starting the season, he'll come in for some PT and most 3rd and long's with Lacy.
I'll believe all the new JUCO players are good and starter worthy when I see it. Almost everyone comes to the campus with some talent and promise. Some fizzle and fade, and some shine. If the new QB is better than what we have and he can spread the ball around, then I'd love to see if he's got what it takes to run the offense. Holley might take some of those 2nd and 3rd string carries, but to get a lot, I think he'll have to prove it once he's here; maybe some goal line carries.
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A few guesstimates highlighted in Red
I'm worried about finding playing time for Solomon Randle. We have 2 ALL WAC MLB's. That's the first time that I've seen that said since I've been following TECH football. I hope that he doesn't get frustrated and look to transfer, because he's damn good. Will they put them both on the field some and have one of them play Sam?? Maybe so.
We should run some 4-4, especially vs Navy. It works great for me on Xbox. :D Especially against the option or run-heavy teams.
And I agree completely about the Juco guys. We don't have the greatest luck with Jucos (though, most of the bad luck came from Mississippi). John White is probably the most recent letdown.
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Quick hitter style, and this is based on how the lineup looked during the last spring practice, at which I think there were, like, 5 of us watching. So this is new.
QB: Ensminger/Jenkins, Cameron (closing fast), Doak
RB: Creer, Fitte
X: Jackson, St. Julien
Y: Molton, Paige
H: Casey, (Livas), Cruz
TE: Harper, Spence, (RP?)
All of these guys will play. Lots of rotation here, so 'starter' is kind of meaningless.
LT: McGill, Cavitt
LG: Saia, Cano
C: Roberts, Sheppard
RG: Warner, Miles
RT: Harmon, Mills
LE: Lacey, Grigsby
NT: Randal, Ellis
UT: Hitt, White
RE: Broha, Zeno
MLB: Solomon, Cole
WLB: Dusty, Dudley
* Might be (probably will be) flipped come Fall, but that's it coming out of Spring. All will play.
GATOR: Tank, Crowe
FS: CJB, Sumner Ellis/Jared Edwards (backup FS is a spot where we'll see a newcomer)
SS: Chad, Drexel (ditto. 2 more newcomers will play backup roles at S this year I think)
LCB: Carter, OP, Cassetti
RCB: Vic, Giles, Goodman
Newcomers will play a big role here. Top 3 are set (OP), after that its a total tossup going into Fall.
SLB*: Rufus, (no backup)
*when on the field, which is rare. If Rufus gets hurt, I don't think we'll ever see another LB on the field and just stick with the Gator.
K: Matt 'Heavyweight' Nelson
P: Hylander
* OSU kid wasn't in for Spring. If he's here, it's probably him at P.
That's not my opinion. That's how it looked coming out of Spring.
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But double C,
Wasn't Cole limited in spring? I know Randle got the reps and did well.
I am excited about our 2 fine MLB.
Randle had 30 tackles last season. Cole had exactly 30 his freshman season while backing up Brannon Jackson.
They were in the same recruiting class, both LB from the state of AL. Kudos to the coaching staff for these gems.
Randle also had a 4.0 GPA coming out of HS, I assume he's doing well in classes.
I think Cole has greater speed and does better in pass coverage (for a MLB), but Randle is a bit bigger.
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But double C,
Wasn't Cole limited in spring? I know Randle got the reps and did well.
I am excited about our 2 fine MLB.
Randle had 30 tackles last season. Cole had exactly 30 his freshman season while backing up Brannon Jackson.
They were in the same recruiting class, both LB from the state of AL. Kudos to the coaching staff for these gems.
Randle also had a 4.0 GPA coming out of HS, I assume he's doing well in classes.
I think Cole has greater speed and does better in pass coverage (for a MLB), but Randle is a bit bigger.
Cole is listed at 5-11, 240, and Randle at 5-11, 235.
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DONW
Cole is listed at 5-11, 240, and Randle at 5-11, 235.
Randle looks bigger to me, at least.
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FishingBack
Randle looks bigger to me, at least.
twss.
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Coach Mick,
Do you think that Andre Taylor will be a factor at DE this year? He sure seems to have the athleticism and size to compete. I also wonder if Tilman will step up too.
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TECH97
Coach Mick,
Do you think that Andre Taylor will be a factor at DE this year? He sure seems to have the athleticism and size to compete. I also wonder if Tilman will step up too.
Andre Taylor, big, athletic RS FR was indeed moved to DE this spring. He injured a hamstring right off the bat & did not get much work so we do not know much more about him except he has the body to play that position. Hopefully he will make a name for himself in August. Tilllman is a typical JUCO player who came to us with some talent but absolutely NO BASE. By that I mean that a high-end, fast-paced weight program was almost completely foreign to him & he was way behind in body strength. Hopefully ( that word again ), the summer program will allow him to catch up with his strength & conditioning because I think he is going to have to play DL for us as our numbers are short. As someone indicated, John White has left us. Please don't ask me why because I do not know. At the DE spot, I am putting my money on I.K. as he has everything it takes to be a very good player.
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MICKEYS14
As someone indicated, John White has left us. Please don't ask me why because I do not know.
Ouch. We really couldn't afford that. Now Shack Lucas or Longino will have to step up and log some PT. Both guys are undersized. Lucas showed some pop at times this Spring, though. Longino may be topped out size-wise, so let's hope Shack puts on the 15-20 he needs over the Summer.
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CChandler
Ouch. We really couldn't afford that. Now Shack Lucas or Longino will have to step up and log some PT. Both guys are undersized. Lucas showed some pop at times this Spring, though. Longino may be topped out size-wise, so let's hope Shack puts on the 15-20 he needs over the Summer.
You are right---we are so THIN in the interior DL & must really hope the injury bug does not bite us there. We really NEED Mount Ellis to be in top shape & ready to play. Longino may be too small to hold up inside so Lucas becomes even more important. DL will be a HUGE TARGET for Sonny & his staff this recruiting year ( as it seems to be every year ) & the competition will be FURIOUS for the good ones.
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Boise just bagged a good one (DT). With their high-powered offense, they never get enough credit for the physical defense that they play at every position (and is the secret ingrediant of their success).
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MICKEYS14
DL will be a HUGE TARGET for Sonny & his staff this recruiting year ( as it seems to be every year ) & the competition will be FURIOUS for the good ones.
heck, at this point, we just need some big bodies to take up space on the DL.
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And we lose Hitt and Randle after this season - zoinks.
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LookingForResults
Boise just bagged a good one (DT). With their high-powered offense, they never get enough credit for the physical defense that they play at every position (and is the secret ingrediant of their success).
You are exactly right about their defense----very little recognition for such an outstanding defense. However, opposing coaches know as evidenced by the hiring of the young DC from Boise by DD at Tennessee at a cool $600K per.
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JAMROB
Looked like he was in slow motion and timid during the spring. Improved some after they moved him inside. Uphill climd due to inside numbers and talent. Prolly going to travel 12. MY count is: 1 Molten 2 Paige 3 Jacarri 4 Livas 5 Casey 6 Harper 7 St Julien 8 Spence 9 Fortson 10 Ikharo 11 R.P. 12 several will compete, probably Cruz or the big walkon can't remember his name (not Bru).
Fortson should redshirt this year with the depth we have at WR.
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cowpoke1977
Fortson should redshirt this year with the depth we have at WR.
Agreed unless he comes on campus and proves that he should make the 2 deep. If he's 3rd or 4th at a position, then he should RS. I think that's true of everyone in all recruiting classes!!
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CChandler
QB: Ensminger/Jenkins, Cameron (closing fast), Doak
I'm thinking that there will be a surprise under center come this fall and NONE OF THE ABOVE will be the correct answer
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Dwayne From Minden
I'm thinking that there will be a surprise under center come this fall and NONE OF THE ABOVE will be the correct answer
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Tarik or Taylor?
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Beaver-Dog
Tarik or Taylor?
Burch will RS according to his granddad this morning....
Tarik could rise as high as #2 -
The starting qb this fall may not be on campus just yet....
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I'm curious... an unknown?
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mildawg
I'm curious... an unknown?
Hearing that there could possibly one other QB come in from the west coast and this is what they are holding the last ride for
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He just entered the supplemental draft yesterday Dwayne.....So it's gonna have to be someone on roster my man.
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I hope they weren't angling for Masoli. I'd hate to have that knucklehead here.
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Dwayne From Minden
Burch will RS according to his granddad this morning....
Tarik could rise as high as #2 -
The starting qb this fall may not be on campus just yet....
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From the looks of his video, Tarik will be our starter next year. But that was his highlights, I'll have to find his stats to see his TD/Int ratio.
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Dwayne From Minden
Hearing that there could possibly one other QB come in from the west coast and this is what they are holding the last ride for
Mitch Mustain???
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DONW
Mitch Mustain???
Masoli is who NyteTyme was referring to I believe. Would he even have been eligible to play this year?
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FishingBack
I hope they weren't angling for Masoli. I'd hate to have that knucklehead here.
As bad as I want a QB, I'm glad it won't be Masoli.
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nytetyme
He just entered the supplemental draft yesterday Dwayne.....So it's gonna have to be someone on roster my man.
? The only supplemental draft news from yesterday I see is about Masoli, but he wouldn't have been eligible to play right away, would he? Are you guys talking about him or someone else? Mustain would be quite a coup, but the transferring senior QB experiment has not worked well for us in the recent past...
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T_Won
From the looks of his video, Tarik will be our starter next year. But that was his highlights, I'll have to find his stats to see his TD/Int ratio.
Tarik Hakmi's 2009 statistics at Foothill JC per the California CCAA:
75 comp of 133 att (56.4%) for 999 yards (166.5 ypg), 7 TDs vs 2 INTs. Additionally Hakmi rushed 31 times for 72 yards (2.3 ypc) and 4 TDs.
http://www.coasports.org/Football/st...tfbh1/foot.htm
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I like the QB's we have on roster and the JUCO kid is goin to add some really nice competition. It's going to be fun watching the whole offense from the 1's all the way to the 3's get better with such a deep QB battle going on. Practice is going to be some serious heat..no pun intended for August.
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DogsWin
That looks like 2 or 3 games. Did he start at the JC?
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T_Won
That looks like 2 or 3 games. Did he start at the JC?
He split time with Fresno signee Kelly O'Brien. That is actually 6 games.
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cowpoke1977
Fortson should redshirt this year with the depth we have at WR.
Agree. We have a STOUT 2 deep at WR this year.
No need to waste his eligibility.
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Unless Ensminger or Cameron have undergone transforming experiences, I think we struggle to 7-5 with the QB's on roster. All the great receivers in the world make no difference if the ball is overthrown, underthrown, thrown behind, not thrown at all, or worse still, thrown to the wrong team.
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I disagree LFR. Look at all the QB's at TT, Hawaii, etc... that have never made it to the NFL. Those QBs were all very successful in college because of good WR's that can turn a 6 yard hitch into a 60 yard TD. In college when you have great WR's you don't need to have a great QB. Look what DMo was able to do last year just being a great TE. Ross knew that and they hooked up for double digit TDs. Ross didn't throw a perfect ball everytime but having other good players make you look good LFR. Now we have at least 4-6 options that can make plays like DMo and Ross still went for 17/5. I think experience at QB is all we need (Ross or JUCO) because having experience to read defenses is what we need at QB with this offense and all these playmakers. To be honest, Im not worried about our offense at all. It's going to be all about the D to push us to that WAC Championship.
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Backing up to Ray Holley for a moment... I found an email address for him and sent Ray a brief note. He replied back and I can assure you that Holley is confident (yet humble) and PUMPED UP to be a Louisiana Tech Bulldog! MickeyS14 was right- lining Holley up opposite Myke Compton as a gunner will leave opposing returners no place to hide!
"The opportunity I have been given (by Tech) is something i've been working a very long time for and I can assure to dedicated alumni like yourself that I will do my best to help bring in some W's and keep the excitement high!" -Ray Holley
... and now back to your regularly scheduled 2-deep discussion.
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BDog05
Masoli is who NyteTyme was referring to I believe. Would he even have been eligible to play this year?
Yes it would have been a Taylor Bennett type situation - 1 to play 1 since he graduated
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Dwayne From Minden
Yes it would have been a Taylor Bennett type situation - 1 to play 1 since he graduated
Did he enter the NFL supplemental draft Big D? At 5'11"??
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MICKEYS14
Did he enter the NFL supplemental draft Big D? At 5'11"??
I'm checking on it...
According to Gil Brandt he hasn't yet but is expected to -
http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/06/21/play...emental-draft/
You need to ask Tech77 about his run in with Mr. Brandt one day....
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Dwayne From Minden
He was sitting at our table at a big Tech function in Bossier, with a young man whom I assumed to be his grandson. Suffice to say, Gil, must be virile for his age.
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ddgravy
I am really intrigued by all the talent that SD has brought in after the signing period. Does any one know where we stand on schlorships? Imo some of these guys are going to get playing time from the get go! I definitely think the bar is being raised! Go dawgs!
I'm intrigued, but not surprised. Sonny D had one of the biggest names in college football when we signed him in Jan. You had to know he was going to draw offensive talent like radar.
HD
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qng001
Holley continues to run over skeptics following Coast career
Thursday, June 10, 2010
For recently graduated Orange Coast College football standout Ray Holley, that catchy phrase has been a way of life as the 5-foot-9, 195-pound running back will take his athletic and academic talents to
Louisiana Tech University.
"Throughout my life, I've tried to not let anything discourage me from what I want to accomplish, in football or in life," Holley said. "At Louisiana Tech, there are seven other running backs at practice and they each have specific talents that they bring to the table. Some are bigger, some are faster, some are stronger -- but I hope to prove to the coaches that I have a little bit of everything and that I deserve the opportunity."
...more
http://www.orangecoastcollege.edu/Cm...contactid=8857
Ray Holley
2009 Highlight Video -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8uGdX7Nt0k
Looks to me like that Ray Holley could be the man to watch. Great skills and can do everything. Good speed.
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LookingForResults
Unless Ensminger or Cameron have undergone transforming experiences, I think we struggle to 7-5 with the QB's on roster. All the great receivers in the world make no difference if the ball is overthrown, underthrown, thrown behind, not thrown at all, or worse still, thrown to the wrong team.
Completely & totally AGREE!
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We gave Colby a chance and even he couldn't do it with those WR options. So lets see what our experienced QB can do before we give someone else a shot. If Ross doesn't produce by A&M then Im all for any other options. But I just don't see Ross struggling with 5 options after he threw 17tds to pretty much only ONE last year.
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nytetyme
We gave Colby a chance and even he couldn't do it with those WR options. So lets see what our experienced QB can do before we give someone else a shot. If Ross doesn't produce by A&M then Im all for any other options. But I just don't see Ross struggling with 5 options after he threw 17tds to pretty much only ONE last year.
The MICK has spoken; let all dissenting voices be silent!
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Love me some Coach Mick and respect him more than anyone could ever know. My statement was in no way a shot at Coach Mick's remarks. I know these players and I know which players this team wants to go to battle with. That was my only angle in that statement.
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Not sure if this has been posted but it is an interesting article talking mainly about the Miami transfer Robert Marve but it also mentions other transfers to watch and talks about Paige, Creer, and Molton. http://collegefootball.rivals.com/co...sp?CID=1096994
Louisiana Tech WR Ahmad Paige (Tennessee)
The buzz: Paige is one of two Tennessee transfers (the other is RB Lennon Creer) and one of three from an SEC school (the other is WR Tim Molton, who left LSU) expected to provide big-play ability in a revamped offense. The Bulldogs have gone from a run-first approach to a pass-happy scheme installed by new coach Sonny Dykes, a former Mike Leach disciple. Paige really did nothing with the Vols, but he had a strong spring and should become a deep threat for the Bulldogs.
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Masoli still hasn't declared for the supplemental draft
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Dwayne From Minden
Masoli still hasn't declared for the supplemental draft
Draft is July 16. Any idea when you have to be officially in the draft?
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Juice752
Draft is July 16. Any idea when you have to be officially in the draft?
Not yet -
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bad idea written all over it if it came here. we already have enough of a 'transfer u' label...don't want a xfer QB, RB, WR1, and WR2 all starting at the same time. we make enough fun of NMSU for all of their clowns, and we take the biggest clown in college football? seriously?
no thank you.
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CChandler
bad idea written all over it if it came here. we already have enough of a 'transfer u' label...don't want a xfer QB, RB, WR1, and WR2 all starting at the same time. we make enough fun of NMSU for all of their clowns, and we take the biggest clown in college football? seriously?
no thank you.
If the move makes the team better, I am for it. I would be very concerned that he might bring a bad vibe to our team though. But I trust Sonny D to be sure of what he is doing before he acts.
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CChandler
bad idea written all over it if it came here. we already have enough of a 'transfer u' label...don't want a xfer QB, RB, WR1, and WR2 all starting at the same time. we make enough fun of NMSU for all of their clowns, and we take the biggest clown in college football? seriously?
no thank you.
If they're the best we have at that position then why not? I'm can assure you no one's going to complain where they're from when they start scoring TD's.
