Re: North Korea launches ballistic missile, pentagon confirms
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Going forward I recommend that Trump stop antagonizing NK and vet his communications on NK/China/Russia through experts; unfortunately we can't go back and undo his stupid tweets that have pushed us to the point we find ourselves today.
That didn't take long.
"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen... he has been very threatening beyond a normal state. They will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before," Trump said.
Smh. I take it back. This is not just on Trump, but it is also on all of you guys that helped put this idiot in office.
Re: North Korea launches ballistic missile, pentagon confirms
In case you haven't been paying attention, that is the type of rhetoric that historically causes KJI to escalate, so it is obvious that this comment will draw another bad behavior from Pyongyang.
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There'll be a couple of B-2s fly over North Korea one night and they'll bring him something, and it won't be money like Obama took to Iran.
Re: North Korea launches ballistic missile, pentagon confirms
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DONW
There'll be a couple of B-2s fly over North Korea one night and they'll bring him something, and it won't be money like Obama took to Iran.
That is the easy part. Almost as easy as Trump running his mouth.
Re: North Korea launches ballistic missile, pentagon confirms
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
That didn't take long.
"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen... he has been very threatening beyond a normal state. They will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before," Trump said.
Smh. I take it back. This is not just on Trump, but it is also on all of you guys that helped put this idiot in office.
Yep, we should follow the libtard script: Oh, pretty please (with a cherry on top) Mr. Pyonpunk, don't hurt us. PLEASE behave and we'll give you lollipops....oh, and a $gazillion in bribes too!
Bend over, Goosey, and take it up your azz like you like it. Oh...I'm sorry. I meant that metaphorically, of course.
We (and our allies) should prepare to launch a preemptive strike, and I mean a devastating attack. And contact the Chicoms and tell 'em, step up and punish your puppet state, NK, get that lunatic out of power...or we'll do it.
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Ok, so I will put Dawg80 down in the pro-escalation camp.
Re: North Korea launches ballistic missile, pentagon confirms
So if we do nothing.. military speaking.. and fat boy launches an attack against Guam.. is Trump still to blame? If we do nothing and NK does nothing then no harm no foul. just posturing. As I stated before, sanctions don't work on NK. There is basically nothing left to sanction. China is only hope. They need to take out fatboy and have regime change. Problem is that China wanted NK to have the technology to build nukes and missiles. If you look at the technology, it probably says "made in China" on the wrapper.. China would also have to closely police imports to NK from Pakistan and Iran to prevent those countries from sending technology to NK.
So Guisslapp what would your response be (if any) if NK sent a missile to Guam.. even one that wasn't nuclear?
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It doesn't matter. If the idiot Hillary haters had not voted for Trump we could just keep burying our head in the sand like we did with Bill Clinton, the Bush RINO, and the Socialist Muslim Obama did.
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Originally Posted by
FriscoDog
So if we do nothing.. military speaking.. and fat boy launches an attack against Guam.. is Trump still to blame? If we do nothing and NK does nothing then no harm no foul. just posturing. As I stated before, sanctions don't work on NK. There is basically nothing left to sanction. China is only hope. They need to take out fatboy and have regime change. Problem is that China wanted NK to have the technology to build nukes and missiles. If you look at the technology, it probably says "made in China" on the wrapper.. China would also have to closely police imports to NK from Pakistan and Iran to prevent those countries from sending technology to NK.
So Guisslapp what would your response be (if any) if NK sent a missile to Guam.. even one that wasn't nuclear?
Stupid question. Obviously we retaliate. But the fact we find ourselves at this current escalated state is because Trump runs his mouth and can't control his twitter fingers. Every single time he attacks them with rhetoric, they escalate. Trump's rhetorical bravado puts us on the verge of war when the past administrations have maintained a relative stalemate situation with NK.
The reason previous administrations have done nothing is because all military scenarios with NK are bad. Talking tough puts us on a collision course where one of these bad options are likely to happen.
So, yes, Guam (and other US interests) is now more at risk because of Trump. I think that he is responsible for that. This was all very predictable.
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PawDawg
It doesn't matter. If the idiot Hillary haters had not voted for Trump we could just keep burying our head in the sand like we did with Bill Clinton, the Bush RINO, and the Socialist Muslim Obama did.
Previous administrations were not burying their heads in the sand. The situation was being managed as best as it could without unnecessarily putting lives at risk. North Korea did not attack anyone during those administrations. We will see how this one does. So far it is doing a terrible job at making us safer.
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And don't play dumb. You guys knew this was the ultimate downside risk with Trump.
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They knew the risk; they just heavily (and incorrectly) discounted it.
Re: North Korea launches ballistic missile, pentagon confirms
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Previous administrations were not burying their heads in the sand. The situation was being managed as best as it could without unnecessarily putting lives at risk. North Korea did not attack anyone during those administrations. We will see how this one does. So far it is doing a terrible job at making us safer.
Bullshit. Previous administrations sold us out. Obama and Hillary did it with Iran, Russia, China, and God only knows who else. Quit trying to revise history. Don't believe the BS fake news that the mainstream media keeps feeding you. President Trump was elected to put an end to the kind of crap NK and Iran constantly stir, and that's what he's going to do. Grow a set of gonads and stand up for what is right for once. There's no future in cowing down to some fat ass fool running North Korea. He's insane and he'll have to be eliminated. It's what should have been done a long time ago.
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North Korea just called Trump’s bluff. So what happens now?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/08/08/donald-trump-is-playing-a-dangerous-game-with-north-korea/
Yeah, what will the 12 year old with heel spurs do now?
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It didn't matter who got elected. NK was on a timeline. We were going to be dealing with this no matter who is in the White House.