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Is that a question? You sound like a TV talking head at a presser.Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
Like most talking heads, I'm so clueless about this that I dont' know what to ask.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Dawgpix
LOL.Nice.
You talking about the change in management?
software changes that will no longer be free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgpix
They'll still be billionaires. We'll still be middle class looking for cheaper ways. Plenty of freeware programs to free you from just about everything but the OS.
How about the cease of support for XP and the fact that many hospitals' Enterprise IT systems won't run on 7 or 8...and price tags for new ones are north/way north of $1million...
So this is where they are going...Quote:
Originally Posted by RhythmDawg
Yup, also virtualization and remote app access will freeze the old in stone. I mean stone. This especially includes XP. Most companies never called Microsoft for support regarding XP during the support window so they are pretty sure they won't need to afterwards. They can set up isolated virtualized environments and limit access to specific programs thus eliminating most of the risk of running a complete desktop and needing to deal with security patches. They will then leave these legacy enterprise apps running like appliances because they work with minimal staff requirements to maintain them. There is ample opportunity here for people who are willing to support outdated technologies. They can do that and at far less cost than the cost of developing something new.Quote:
Originally Posted by RhythmDawg
I mean it when I say that the skills on my resume that people will pay a premium for are the ones that are well past their support windows. Enterprises won't spend money they don't have to no matter how often the vendor politely asks them to move on. Oracle has dealt with this with Oracle Forms for years. Every time they threaten to tell people to move on and provide migration strategies and whatnot, 90% of the Fortune 500 complains. Same with large web systems that work almost exclusively with IE7. Why pay to move on when what you have works and the technology exists for you to still use what you have?
When my son had a brain tumor I was pretty amused that the MRI machine ran on an old SGI Onyx - that is mid 90's technology that was still running strong in 2008. I bet they still have and maintain that machine today. SGI isn't even in business any more but they need someone to make sure that machine stays running. It is cheaper to find single-case expertise for your secondary MRI than it is to buy a new MRI setup.
weunice or anyone else that can give me some tech support: the laptop I use most has XP and it is still working great after about 12 years. I use MS Office Word, PowerPoint, and Excel frequently. I'm not a gamer. I do not do video editing or CAD, mostly just Office, email, and BB&B.
What does the loss of XP support mean to me as an individual user? a) Don't worry about it and continue using my current working laptop, or b) replace with a Windows 7 laptop that wife no longer uses (Android tablet), or c) buy an Windows 8.1 tablet with a detachable keyboard that I saw on sale.
My guess is a) don't worry about it, but I could use some reassurance because of security concerns.
When I make this same argument to civic leaders regarding existing buildings / neighborhoods / infrastructure, they just stare at me looking bumfuzzled.Quote:
Originally Posted by weunice
That's because they have never seen Rodney Dangerfield's lecture to the business school professor in "Back to School." ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
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Originally Posted by HoDo-Tech70
My thoughts would be that if it aint broke don't fix it. You basically need a computer that will boot, run your web browser, and ms office suite. You may find that the next version of office won't run on your machine (they want you to go to MS 360 and be on line all the time anyway), but that shouldn't be an issue. If it is, get a new machine then. If you have trouble with your laptop, you can go get the one on sale for less then you can get yours fixed then.
The general consensus is that, for HIPAA security purposes on windows-based systems, a migration has to be made...but I don't pretend to be an IT guy. There are still plenty running on AS400. I'm consulting with one right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by weunice
I feel ya... 250 of the 350 computers in the Police cars are all XP. We're running into all kinds of programs that say they won't guarantee it to work on our XP machines.Quote:
Originally Posted by RhythmDawg
No problems, no change. Go with the flow.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoDo-Tech70
Also, if you're thinking about upgrading/renewing your Microsoft Office craptastic programs, try OpenOffice (FREEWARE) and see if you're happy with it before renewing. Basically the same program with buttons in different places and things named different.
Thanks for the information. I figured it was OK to stay with Windows XP. I do have other available options but I like using my big, bulky old Sony Vaio laptop more than any of my wife's newer, smaller, and faster computers and tablets.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMarvin362
I tried OpenOffice 8 years ago to do a database and spreadsheet. It just didn't work as well as MS Office. If I do get a new computer I will try it again as I'm sure it has improved over the years.
I've got some GA tickets for the MTSU game for you if you are interested. It should be a great game.
Sounds awesome!! But I never know until that day whether I can make the trek over. Baby (and Mom's sanity) are the determining factors.
Works very well. It is a shame more people don't realize that a free version of basically MS Office is out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMarvin362