Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today
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Originally Posted by
T_Won
I personally don't care. I just wish someone would explain it to Velton Knight so he would quit writing misleading letters-to- the-editor of Baton Rouge newspapers. If he's right, then I wish Tech would do more to get off the government teet (need to do that anyway though).
* And I was thinking that since y'all were being so private about it, he must be right.
Do you really think it would matter to him. You've been reading his Tech Hate for years. Why would you even THINK that no good POS cares about telling the truth? You believe him before your own Tech brothers when it is all here for you to read in black and white? WTH man?
Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today
I don't believe him, I just can't prove him wrong. The proof is hard to find. He has a USA Today article showing we lost 9.2 Million dollars, and I have someone's opinion. But you are probably right that the truth would not matter to him, because he does still have that article to back him up.
Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today
Quote:
Originally Posted by
T_Won
I don't believe him, I just can't prove him wrong. The proof is hard to find. He has a USA Today article showing we lost 9.2 Million dollars, and I have someone's opinion. But you are probably right that the truth would not matter to him, because he does still have that article to back him up.
You have a state report to refer to, not opinion. The problem is that he will never interpret the report correctly even if you show it to him.
Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today
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Originally Posted by
maddawg
You have a state report to refer to, not opinion. The problem is that he will never interpret the report correctly even if you show it to him.
The audit is confusing though. Tech receives less money from the state than ULL, but spends more state money than ULL. It's easy to see his complaint and hard to find the facts.
Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today
That's why looking at self-generated revenues is a clearer way to view things. Everything else is revenue that an athletic departmnent did not earn itself. For the USA Today figures, self-generated revenues are the total revenues less the "subsidy" amount.
2013-2014 Conference USA public university figures for 2010-2011 fiscal year (in order by self-generated revenues)
School |
Total revenues |
Total expenses |
Total state subsidy |
% subsidy |
Self-generated revenues |
East Carolina |
$34,048,869 |
$32,220,961 |
$13,515,570 |
39.69% |
$20,533,299 |
Marshall |
$27,444,906 |
$26,146,967 |
$12,482,291 |
45.48% |
$14,962,615 |
UTEP |
$27,694,358 |
$27,660,527 |
$13,870,677 |
50.08% |
$13,823,681 |
Southern Miss |
$20,673,597 |
$20,702,037 |
$8,015,417 |
38.77% |
$12,658,180 |
UAB |
$25,690,048 |
$25,224,426 |
$16,624,135 |
64.71% |
$9,065,913 |
Old Dominion |
$32,893,744 |
$30,909,628 |
$23,899,361 |
72.66% |
$8,994,383 |
Louisiana Tech |
$17,146,559 |
$17,135,283 |
$9,238,911 |
53.88% |
$7,907,648 |
North Texas |
$11,259,222 |
$18,935,422 |
$5,051,120 |
44.86% |
$6,208,102 |
UNCC |
$18,264,105 |
$17,519,512 |
$13,309,575 |
71.46% |
$5,314,530 |
UTSA |
$16,675,632 |
$16,004,767 |
$11,946,053 |
71.64% |
$4,729,579 |
FIU |
$23,849,954 |
$24,606,141 |
$19,156,076 |
80.32% |
$4,693,878 |
Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today
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Originally Posted by
T_Won
* And I was thinking that since y'all were being so private about it, he must be right.
That's what I'm thinking. I'm not sure why this very public info would have to be on the double secret, Hall of Fame, recruiting board here on BB&B. :rolleyes4:
Some of these guys.......you gotta love 'em. :laugh::laugh:
HD
Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today
Quote:
Originally Posted by
maddawg
You have a state report to refer to, not opinion. The problem is that he will never interpret the report correctly even if you show it to him.
Well, apparently the reporter for USA Today didn't interpret the report correctly either.
Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
Well, apparently the reporter for USA Today didn't interpret the report correctly either.
He is an journalist. Being a journalist doesn't require thought or reason.
Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today
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Originally Posted by
T_Won
I don't believe him, I just can't prove him wrong. The proof is hard to find. He has a USA Today article showing we lost 9.2 Million dollars, and I have someone's opinion. But you are probably right that the truth would not matter to him, because he does still have that article to back him up.
The USA Today article does NOT say that we lost any money.
The only people saying we lost money are EagerEagle, Velton Knight, TWon, and Dawg80.
Re: ODU To Announce Move To CUSA In Presser Today
Let me repeat the math for 2010-2011 on Tech and then do the same for ULL....
2010-11
School |
Direct
institutional
support |
Athletic Scholarship Support
avg scholarship cost X
# of scholarships
(assume 100% is covered) |
Athletic Base Support
max 3% PY Oper. Budget
$0-$500,000 could be added
to Athletic Base Support
for sex equity |
Operating Budget
required to
support maximum 3%
Athletic Base Support |
Tech |
$7,209,395 |
$3,616,304 |
$3,093,091-$3,593,091 |
$103,103,033-$119,769,700 |
ULL |
$5,827,446 |
$2,531,170 |
$2,796,276-$3,296,276 |
$93,209,200-$109,875,867 |
Here are the same figures for 2009-2010. Looks pretty obvious to me that ULL did not transfer the full 3% it could have in Athletic Base Support for 2010-2011...in excess of $700K less appears to have been transferred in 2010-2011 compared to 2009-2010. Unless ULL's operating budget dropped by $23 million between 2008-2009 and 2009-2010, that decreased transfer was a decision made by the ULL administration.
...shhhhh...don't let RaginPagin' posters see this....
2009-2010
|
Direct
institutional
support |
Athletic Scholarship Support
avg scholarship cost X
# of scholarships
(assume 100% covered) |
Athletic Base Support
max 3% PY Oper. Budget
$0-$500,000 could be added
to Athletic Base Support
for sex equity |
Operating Budget
required to
support maximum 3%
Athletic Base Support |
2008-2009
Budgeted and Actual
Total Expenditures |
Tech |
$6,627,679 |
$3,300,844 |
$2,826,835-$3,326,835 |
$94,227,833-$110,894,500 |
Budget $101,515,795
Actual $95,685,574 |
ULL |
$6,524,028 |
$2,460,656 |
$3,563,372-$4,063,372 |
$118,779,067-$135,445,733 |
Budget $147,805,705
Actual $140,999,227 |