Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing
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Guisslapp
You're the one that believed every word she said. I tried to tell you she was lying. Why do you think the democrats picked a psychologist to try to pull this charade off? It's not surprising to me that no one could corroborate her story. It's also not surprising that she made an announcement that she would not file a complaint with the Maryland police. She doesn't want to be investigated because she knows they'll find out what a fraud she really is.
Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing
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Guisslapp
THEY may not understand it, but us independent minded folks know that Trump’s “winning” is just red meat populism. He just keeps stirring the pot of his base throwing scraps of chum in the political waters. Good for him but bad for America.
If the right and left weren’t so tribal it wouldn’t work. Unfortunately, such a desire for one’s tribe to “win” ensures that we will never be safe from tyranny.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/...tm=top>m=top
There is a lot of truth to that. I think it's telling that politicians have abandoned all hope of appealing to people with ideas and clung to exciting their base. Elections have very little to do with ideas now and are all about voter turnout. Debates aren't debates, they are back and forth sound bites.
I actually think Trump did a better job than most people give him credit for of going outside of the republican base for votes. I really do believe there were people that had been abandoned by both political parties that Trump appealed to and actually convinced some people to vote for him.
Not to say that he doesn't rile up his base because he does, but I do think to a certain extent he has built his own tribe and pulled the GOP towards him.
Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing
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Originally Posted by
DONW
You're the one that believed every word she said. I tried to tell you she was lying. Why do you think the democrats picked a psychologist to try to pull this charade off? It's not surprising to me that no one could corroborate her story. It's also not surprising that she made an announcement that she would not file a complaint with the Maryland police. She doesn't want to be investigated because she knows they'll find out what a fraud she really is.
Yet she asked to be investigated by the FBI...
Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing
Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing
Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
THEY may not understand it, but us independent minded folks know that Trump’s “winning” is just red meat populism. He just keeps stirring the pot of his base throwing scraps of chum in the political waters. Good for him but bad for America. If the right and left weren’t so tribal it wouldn’t work. Unfortunately, such a desire for one’s tribe to “win” ensures that we will never be safe from tyranny.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/...tm=top>m=top
“Independent minded”. Now that’s funny right there. I don’t care who you are.
If you believe you are “independent minded” you need some mental health assistance.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/no-...bi-probe-finds
Grassley is not letting this Kavanaugh smear to unpunished. Now has sent two letters to FBI/DOJ for criminal probes for two of the women
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An investigation into sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh by multiple women found that no witnesses could provide evidence to substantiate their claims, a letter to Senate Republicans from the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman said Friday.
According to the 414-page report released by Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, investigators interviewed more than 40 people, monitored social media and news reports and reviewed evidence provided by the judge and his accusers.
“Following the separate and extensive investigations by both the Committee and the FBI, there was no evidence to substantiate any of the claims of sexual assault made against Justice Kavanaugh,” the report states.
Grassley last month requested that the FBI investigate accuser Julie Swetnick and her attorney, Michael Avenatti, who also represents porn star Stormy Daniels in her allegations against President Trump. Swetnick’s credibility was questioned after an ex-boyfriend told Fox News that "she exaggerated everything" and threatened to kill his unborn child.
Investigators found no evidence to support either woman’s claims. Swetnick also made several contradictory statements about her claims during television interviews and refused to speak with committee investigators, the letter said.
“Indeed, the evidence appears to support the position that Julie Swetnick and Mr. Avenatti criminally conspired to make materially false statements to the Committee and obstruct the Committee’s investigation.”
Charges should be brought against these two IMO.
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FriscoDog
Charges should be brought against these two IMO.
Some here will claim that bringing charges against proven liars will harm "the cause for women's rights". We are supposed to believe any female accuser before evaluating the facts. Pretty sure that same rule applies to certain races as well.
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PawDawg
Some here will claim that bringing charges against proven liars will harm "the cause for women's rights". We are supposed to believe any female accuser before evaluating the facts. Pretty sure that same rule applies to certain races as well.
As long as it is against any Conservative or Republican.. Case in point.. Mueller's accuser.. Not that I believe or don't believe her, it's just the same ones who were sky screaming we must believe women and Dr. Jones, are the same ones who say this is completely made up fabrication to stall or stop the Mueller investigation, and should be ignored.
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Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing
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Guisslapp
What Mueller accuser?
Those who thought the special council was needed (and still do). The deep state guys.:icon_razz:
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And there is a big difference between a clearly false accusation, which Grassley referred to the DOJ and Swetnick. The comparison to Ford shows that you guys have lost the ability to process basic facts and truths.
In case you were not aware of the facts of the clearly fake accuser that got referred to the DOJ, here are the highlights:
“Given her relatively unique name, Committee investigators were able to use open-source research to locate Ms. Munro-Leighton and determine that she: (1) is a left-wing activist; (2) is decades older than Judge Kavanaugh; and (3) lives in neither the Washington DC area nor California, but in Kentucky,” Grassley’s office wrote.
These basic facts were inconsistent with her story.
Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
And there is a big difference between a clearly false accusation, which Grassley referred to the DOJ and Swetnick. The comparison to Ford shows that you guys have lost the ability to process basic facts and truths.
In case you were not aware of the facts of the clearly fake accuser that got referred to the DOJ, here are the highlights:
“Given her relatively unique name, Committee investigators were able to use open-source research to locate Ms. Munro-Leighton and determine that she: (1) is a left-wing activist; (2) is decades older than Judge Kavanaugh; and (3) lives in neither the Washington DC area nor California, but in Kentucky,” Grassley’s office wrote.
These basic facts were inconsistent with her story.
This was all discovered and pointed out to the socialist when it happened, but the facts did not fit the socialist agenda. They kept selling it and you were buying it because you thought it supported Ford's story, which was never backed up with any facts.
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PawDawg
This was all discovered and pointed out to the socialist when it happened, but the facts did not fit the socialist agenda. They kept selling it and you were buying it because you thought it supported Ford's story, which was never backed up with any facts.
Bought what? Her allegations didn’t see the light of day because they were so obviously false. Did the mainstream media report on her allegations at the time? If so, I don’t recall it. Credible journalists wouldn’t report on such a tip without doing at least a cursory investigation to see if it is credible.
Re: Travesty unfolding in Kavanaugh Hearing
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Bought what? Her allegations didn’t see the light of day because they were so obviously false. Did the mainstream media report on her allegations at the time? If so, I don’t recall it. Credible journalists wouldn’t report on such a tip without doing at least a cursory investigation to see if it is credible.
The Times shot it down, but all the main stream drive by reported it. You were not a believer?
Ford's allegations were never credible either.