Infield Fly Rule

I THINK I know the answer, but want to see what some of y'all think...

Infield fly conditions when the batter (in an attempt to bunt) bunts a popup to the pitcher. The umpire never calls or signals batter out.

Was the umpire wrong?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infield_fly_rule

According to this, it might have depended upon the outs and the position of runners.

No infield fly on an attempted bunt. Umpire is correct in not calling the batter out.

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Originally Posted by rustondawg5198

No infield fly on an attempted bunt. Umpire is correct in not calling the batter out.

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Correct

But if the pitcher lets the ball drop and the double or triple play is picked up then it flys in the face of the intent of the rule though doesn't it? Especially if the base runners don't break on the bunt attempt. Any of you umpires have a story about this situation?

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Originally Posted by maddawg

But if the pitcher lets the ball drop and the double or triple play is picked up then it flys in the face of the intent of the rule though doesn't it? Especially if the base runners don't break on the bunt attempt. Any of you umpires have a story about this situation?

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Print this out and give it to the umpire with a smile.


6.05 A batter is out when-

(l) An infielder intentionally drops a fair fly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and third, or first, second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball is dead and runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases;

APPROVED RULING: In this situation, the batter is not out if the infielder permits the ball to drop untouched to the ground, except when the Infield Fly rule applies.

Correct RustonDawg, you cannot have an infield fly on an attempted bunt.

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Originally Posted by DocMarvin362

Print this out and give it to the umpire with a smile.


6.05 A batter is out when-

(l) An infielder intentionally drops a fair fly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and third, or first, second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball is dead and runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases;

APPROVED RULING: In this situation, the batter is not out if the infielder permits the ball to drop untouched to the ground, except when the Infield Fly rule applies.

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Have you ever made a call, or have you ever seen an ump make a call in this situation where the double or triple play was actually executed on a pop fly bunt attempt?

I have to LOL when I think of what could happen at the local little league field?:laugh:

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Originally Posted by maddawg

Have you ever made a call, or have you ever seen an ump make a call in this situation where the double or triple play was actually executed on a pop fly bunt attempt?

I have to LOL when I think of what could happen at the local little league field?:laugh:

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Actually there are some pretty good ball players out at Ruston Dixie. And yes I know you didn't mean there wasn't.

For example, have you ever seen an 11/12 year old kid hit two home runs over the fence in one game? Guess I should be more specific, the first home run he batted from the left side of the plate and the second he batted from the right side of the plate. If you want to see some exciting ball (not necessarily error free :)) you should come on out one night. It's great to see kids that are playing just for the enjoyment.

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Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue

Actually there are some pretty good ball players out at Ruston Dixie. And yes I know you didn't mean there wasn't.

For example, have you ever seen an 11/12 year old kid hit two home runs over the fence in one game? Guess I should be more specific, the first home run he batted from the left side of the plate and the second he batted from the right side of the plate. If you want to see some exciting ball (not necessarily error free :)) you should come on out one night. It's great to see kids that are playing just for the enjoyment.

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My comment was not directed at the players, but at the confusion that could arise from the situation I described.

I see some pretty good ball here in WM, but I can't say we've got a kid that can jack one from both sides of the plate. Very impressive! The next Chipper Jones maybe?:icon_wink:

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Originally Posted by maddawg

My comment was not directed at the players, but at the confusion that could arise from the situation I described.

I see some pretty good ball here in WM, but I can't say we've got a kid that can jack one from both sides of the plate. Very impressive! The next Chipper Jones maybe?:icon_wink:

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I, of course, did understand your initial comment and took no offense. You are definitely right there can be some very comedic occurances at the ball park (even sometimes at the major league level).

Please do not insult our player by comparing him to an Atlanta Brave player, now if you want to compare him to a Cub player that would be acceptable.:):D:bigcry: Take care.

The infield fly rule "DOES NOT" apply on an attempted bunt!

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Originally Posted by CajunDave1

The infield fly rule "DOES NOT" apply on an attempted bunt!

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I (we) know that.

The discussion I'm interested in having is about the integrity of the rule on an attempted bunt. The rule is in place to keep the defense from having the unfair advantage of turning a double or triple play, but the very thing the rule tries to prevent could happen in this situation.

Sorry to over analyze, but I like to understand WHY certain rules are in place. The only thing I can come up with is that the exception is in place to offset the advantage a good bunt would give the offense. Risk vs. reward?

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Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue

I, of course, did understand your initial comment and took no offense. You are definitely right there can be some very comedic occurances at the ball park (even sometimes at the major league level).

Please do not insult our player by comparing him to an Atlanta Brave player, now if you want to compare him to a Cub player that would be acceptable.:):D:bigcry: Take care.

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But if they won the game, then you can't compare them to a cub player; the Braves reference would then apply again. :D

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Originally Posted by maddawg

Have you ever made a call, or have you ever seen an ump make a call in this situation where the double or triple play was actually executed on a pop fly bunt attempt?

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Seen plenty of strange things in my 8 years of umpiring... but none like the 2 situations that you guys posted about.

I do few good ones, but they would be LONG posts... I think I'll save them for the tailgating in 108 days. :icon_wink: