Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools
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counselingdawg
Saw one of those college football shows on ESPN a couple of days ago where a pundit said that the Big 12 itself is in big trouble because several teams headed by Texas want to move. To Big 10 or PAC 12. Pundit believes it could lose its power 5 status.
The Big 12 is fine until sometime around 2024, when the Grant of Rights runs out. One of the concerns among Houston fans is that additions will be brought in only to see the conference dissolve them. But there is talk that this expansion will come with an extension of the GOR.
Texas likes the Big 12, because it's the only conference that lets them have the LHN. If the Big 12 were to dissolve, they'd either lose their network or would have the headaches of independence.
The bigger threat is OU, which could get on SEC, Big Ten, or maybe the Pac-12. And if OU leaves, that creates a problem for Texas. On the other hand, OU will have a hard time blowing up the conference without Oklahoma State having a nice landing place. While OU could get into a better conference, they are not such a commodity that they can demand OSU come along. This was the problem with the "OU/KU to Big Ten" talk. Oklahoma State and K-State.
Things are not great in the Pac-12 either. The solution to this might be some sort of merger between the Pac-12 and Big 12 into a couple of conferences. Basically an upper conference with the best teams, and a lower conference with the rest. That's pure speculation on my part.
If there is not any sort of extension of the Grant of Rights, I'm expecting things to blow up around 2024, which is when the GOR of both the Pac-12 and Big 12 end.
Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools
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parialex
there is not any sort of extension
twss
Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools
http://www.espn.com/college-football...ools-expansion
Looks like the list of candidates for Big 12 expansion is set. Some of those names in the article just don't seem like they belong in the discussion at all.
Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools
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Built4Speed
I think a lot of these teams are there to muddy the water enough to hide true intentions. Many of the unrealistic teams (NIU, ECU, Temple) will get to milk it for their troubles.
Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools
Houston & Cincy is my guess
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I see they have the original University of Louisiana on the list
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http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...es-realignment
Says 17 in conversations/presentation (15 known, 2 unknown). While I think it's a long shot, did Guice try to apply?
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I count 17 in this ESPN article
Among the 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 are Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU, New Mexico, Northern Illinois and San Diego State sources said.
Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools
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maddawg
Houston & Cincy is my guess
Mine too. If not Cincy, then Memphis maybe. But I'm about 97.5% sure it'll be Cincy over Memphis.
Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools
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Built4Speed
Mine too. If not Cincy, then Memphis maybe. But I'm about 97.5% sure it'll be Cincy over Memphis.
leaving Houston out would be an interesting wrinkle. Better for us imo
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Tech was going to be invited to the Big12.
Then we unveiled that big ugly pressbox thing, and that was the deal-breaker.
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BearDawg137
Nope. When Arkansas State gets an interview with the Big 12, you know that Guice and McClelland didn't even try. Very disappointing. :(
Re: Big 12 to explore expanding by as many as four schools
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sportdawg
I count 17 in this ESPN article
Among the 17 schools that will make their presentations to the Big 12 are Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, South Florida, UCF, UConn, Memphis, Colorado State, Boise State, Tulane, Temple, East Carolina, SMU, New Mexico, Northern Illinois and San Diego State sources said.
That's only 16. Originally they said 17 but only knew 14. Then Northern Illinois was added. Then San Diego State was added. And lastly Arkansas State was added. Embarrassing for our leadership. We didn't even try.
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Dawg06
That's only 16. Originally they said 17 but only knew 14. Then Northern Illinois was added. Then San Diego State was added. And lastly Arkansas State was added. Embarrassing for our leadership. We didn't even try.
Haven't heard AkState, but if they or anyone from the SunBelt is being interviewed, and we didn't even try, then yes, that is embarrassing.
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BearDawg137
Haven't heard AkState, but if they or anyone from the SunBelt is being interviewed, and we didn't even try, then yes, that is embarrassing.
Yep. And make it 18. Air Force is a late add.
Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN 5m5 minutes ago
Now up to 18 on Big 12’s expansion list: AF ArkSt Boise BYU Cincinnati CSU UConn ECU Houston Memphis NIU NM SDSU SMU Temple Tulane UCF USF
