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Don't tell me. Tell Drew Brees. He made the comment. ...Must be a democrat.

But Tyler I thought you said Bush was right and there were WMD?

I don't get it either. Using words like Vendetta and Vindictive make it seem like the Saints did something to make him mad and now Goodell is getting back at them but I cant see what the Saints did...

http://cfif.org/v/images/sections/free-to-lie-but-not-to-opine-crop.jpg

Its not an excuse. Its a fact.

You guys keep going back to the bounties/injuries/late hits, etc... Why?

It wasn't the bounty or Williams speech. It was the cover up and lies. If it were just the bounty the Saints would have...

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nfcsouth&id=33542

Uh yeah that was sarcasm. Not sure I ever advocated moving the Saints away from NOLA either.

How's that Greg Williams for President petition you started coming along? Got many signatures?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-silver_gregg_williams_speech_saints_49ers_bounty_040412

Keep it up 80. I got a good laugh out of that post. :laugh:

Like you alluded to EVERY team has fans like you. Who feel EXACTLY the way you do about there team. Only the ignorant and shortsighted...

Shocker.

Uh yeah Tyler we get that you agree with anything pro Saints. :icon_roll:


....Whether it is true or not. :laugh:

And???

I'm not on some sort of high horse here. If the Cowboys or any other teams are caught doing it they should be treated exactly as the Saints were. And if we behave in the manner the Saints...

I just think it is. It's based on my own values. I don't base it on how the Patriots got punished because that is assuming the Patriots were punished correctly. I also take into account that they...

No. The multiple lies, denials and coverups do.

In this situation the Saints are the criminals, not the victims Johnny.

Don't play with fire if you don't want to get burnt.

Most aren't so incredibly stupid that they feel the need to document it.

Yup. That's the bottom line and the reason the punishment is so severe. The Saints brought this on themselves.

Fwiw. http://m.nbcdfw.com/nbcdfw/db_276847/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=uMYapS8H

LMAO!!!! Why in the HELL would you want to keep track of it??? I mean what was the benefit? The Saints should get hammered for that fact alone.

I don't see where we disagree. EXCEPT: If you know its illegal, and you do it anyways, don't bitch about being punished if you get caught. That's on you.

Exactly. I agree.

So why does a player need another $3,000 to do what he is already being paid $4,000,000 to do????????

If these guys need extra motivation they are in the wrong profession.

Williams needs to get hit the hardest. I don't care if he is with a new team. He admitted he did it. He admitted he knew it was wrong and did it anyways. His excuse: "I got carried away with it." It...

If the Saints had a pair they wouldn't need extra money to go and hit the QB hard in the first place. They should do it because it's their damn job. They play football for a living. Getting to put on...

:laugh:If this were the Cowboys Tyler would be OUTRAGED!!! :laugh:


If they still have the same GM he needs to be fired. Benson said he told him to end the program and he flat out didn't do it....