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    Homo sapiens are a very poor example to try and prove your point. Intelligence is the counter to evolution. We are de-evolving in fact. Take for instance, eyesight. More and more people are...
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    Salty, did you read my previous posts? If you have group 1 that splits into two groups and they each evolve separately, you will have groups 2 and 2a, where 2 is the group that evolved elsewhere and...
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    Well, for starters, you could just tell me that I'm right. :D :D

    I think that modern day observations are very important, but taking those observations and comparing them to current theory is...
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    Exactly. And yet, the article posted said that modern man and his precursors existed side by side. This isn't much of a feat, IMO, unless they coexisted in the same environment. There's bound to...
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    Let me explain what I mean using a suggested tree of human evolution found at this website: http://www.amonline.net.au/human_evolution/tree.htm

    Consider Homo ergaster. Homo ergaster is the...
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    Tyler,

    I was not saying that there was a flaw in the design of creation, but that there could be a flaw in our understanding of reality. We should never be so arrogant as to claim that we have...
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    But this is exactly what the argument is about, and why the Creationists have a scientific agenda. All truth is God's truth, and truth cannot contradict itself. For the YEC, the Bible is inerrant...
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    Let me see if I can rephrase what I'm asking for a bit more clarity. Take for instance, the crocodile and the alligator could be descendants from a common ancestor; also, do we know that the tiger...
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    Doesn't this strike anyone as strange? That a modern day version and the precursor to that modern day version could co-exist? How often, these days, do we find both the evolved animal and the...
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    Congrats on post #2000 Salty! :)

    Of course we Creationists say that consciousness is a product of the master Designer. Go figure. :p


    There is a visible hierarchy in the world we live in. ...
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    Ok, I agree with that. Nature cannot differentiate between right and wrong. Now comes the kicker though. You defend evolution, you defend natural selection, and I have yet to see you try and...
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    I wasn't referencing an entity in my post. I was saying that biologists and scientists of the time, at least the more outspoken evolutionists, are turning to the concept that the driving force and...
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    Salty, the idea of morality being a cultural invention is based on the idea of relativism which is a self-defeating argument. The idea that something can be right for you but not right for me (that...
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    Salty, did you read my post? Culture is just another part of humanity, society. If morality is a cultural invention, then it was invented by man, and I refuted that argument. Your explanation is...
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    Noting that morality must be defined above humanity is one of the many logical arguments for God's existence. It follows a logical pattern of "how much is enough?" One cannot define morality. Can...
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    It doesn't necessarily. It was merely a side issue I was addressing when you claimed there was nothing in nature to indicate good and evil.

    Daniel
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    From a purely non-religious standpoint, you get a planet without humans or any of the effects that humanity has had on the planet. Presumably, a much healthier planet. :D

    I'm not sure what...
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    Is there an idea not created by man? Theists could argue that God is the source of ideas, from from a purely "man observation" standpoint, is there any idea that is NOT from man?

    The next...
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    Actually, according to that site that Dawgbitten sent me, Creationism and ID are not the same thing. Here's a quote or two:

    "Is IC/ID [Irreducible Complexity/Intelligent Design] a form of...
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    Thanks for the website! Very informative. I will continue to read and do research. This is what is important, because it is through research that we formulate opinions and establish truth. :-)
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    Please do your homework before espousing your opinions. I leave it up to geologists to determine whether or not it is a tree. This is not the only site that has tree-embedded fossil records, and it...
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    The prescribed name for the hominid found in Flores is "Homo Floresiensis," which is the Genus and Species of said hominid. The full biological name would be as follows:

    Animalia Chordata...
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    Again, no evidence of familial evolution.... Visit this website: http://genesismission.4t.com/Flood/Rapid_Burial.html which is indicative of a catastrophic event that resulted in very quick fossil...
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    Speciation doesn't involve cross-family. There are current studies dealing with cross-species and cross-genus, but I'm pretty sure there are no studies for cross-family. I don't remember if the...
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    I agree. Micro-evolution is a fact. However, macro-evolution can never be empirically tested and therefore is not within the realm of scientific determination. It is beyond me how anyone can claim...
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