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    Verify is a bit of a stretch. You can believe you have observed a similar result, but often that is biased by what you expect to obtain. I would say you may get close to what you see, and that is a...
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    Center of our galaxy, according to most scientific experts that is off. We are talking about a galaxy black hole. And as for the "center" that's all a matter of perspective. We rotate around the sun,...
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    Faith is about belief, as is science, especially when you do not have personal evidence to back up that belief. And as our previous discussion shows, all knowledge is belief.
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    Ouchy :laugh:
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    The pope said evolution was the most likely theory. It doesn't mean that he believes it objectively true. There is a difference. I think that evolution is also likely, but I don't believe it to be a...
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    Dawgonit, Detltu made a logical point. Religion is based on faith, and trust. Your observations of what others have told you is also based on faith, and trust. You trust that the scientists have been...
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    The trust you have in the works of others is belief, i.e. faith. It is not the truth, only a limited rational explanation of what is interpreted, fallibly, to be going on. If you would like to know...
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    I agree Guisslapp, such are theories of our understanding of what we have observed. But just because we see things now, does not mean that it has always given the same result. We only have a small...
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    And I have to say, to use the remark, the majority of the scientific community believes in evolution, thus I am logically correct, it would be proper to actually have factual evidence that the...
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    Thank you JuBru, how many scientists are a member of the AAAS (according to Wikipedia 120K)? How are they queried on evolution to obtain that result? How current is that data? How many have died? How...
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    The most "logical" explanation is your subjective viewpoint. You believe it to be so, thus to you it is. Just because you subjectively view something to be "the most logical" does not make it so. The...
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    And I have to say, when Guisslapp lacks evidence to fight my position, he attempts to fling insults by comparing my critical analysis of his opinion to those of hate groups. Guisslapp, please provide...
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    I agree Turbodawg, the bible is a subjective interpretation of God's objective mystery. It helps us to foster a loving relationship with him. Science is a subjective interpretation of a subjective...
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    Guisslapp, have you asked every scientific expert their opinion? And to answer that, no you have not. You have been spoonfed from your teachers, mentors, friends, and those articles you have read...
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    Messed up math, will be corrected above
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    My guess, the scientific expert opinion majority which Guisslapp bases his support for evolution is based on several surveys of possibly up to 10K persons each, with either set multiple choice...
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    Question Guisslapp, have you gone to each and every scientific "expert" and polled their views on evolution, or have you just believed what others have spoon-fed you based statistical polling on a...
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    What evidence is there that you have validated? How much scientific fact have you taken for granted?
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    Evolution is a theory, just as creation is. It is fallible, and not objective knowledge, nor an objective fact. Creation and evolution have also been theorized to work together (i.e. creation...
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