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    Re: Let's Get Metaphysical Baby

    I'm not negating the law of identity. I'm merely saying that quantum mechanics is not a counter example to the law of causality.
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    Are you saying that "to exist, is to be perceived" (esse est percipi)? If so, it sounds like Berkeley's Idealism. I don't think your saying this, but just thought I would bring that up.

    I'm...
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    I don't think it does. The fact that we don't know why quantum mechanics works the way it works does not prove that there is no cause to what is happening. There is not enough evidence to claim...
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    How does a concsiousness not exist? If it doesn't exist then it is nothing. I'm saying that existence is eternal, but that material things that exist have no ground for there existence. This...
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    That is why the veritical cosmological argument is needed. It shows that Pure Act is needed as the unmoved mover/first efficient cause. Since matter in and of itself is pure potency, it makes all...
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    Re: Let's Get Metaphysical Baby

    Because it is a potential infinite that cannot be demonstrated.
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    I really hate all of you guys. Every last one of you. I've got papers to work on and tons of reading to finish and this stinking message board is sucking me in.
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    I'm not understanding what you mean by existence. Do you mean that existence is only material? If this is your view, then Christians do beleive in a non-material being (i.e. spiritual being) as the...
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    Your begging the question. Your assuming that time can be indefinitly divided. It is only a potential infinite that one can continue to split time in half. Further, if this is a valid counter example...
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    I have no problem with there being no time before the creation of the universe. I hold that time is the "numbering of motion." Since, God is Pure Act He is them immutable, i.e., does not move. If...
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    This isn't that exact argument, but I'm just pasting some of this from a paper I did a few months ago. I'm wanthing to show how the Aristotelian view of change calls for a unmoved mover (i.e. Pure...
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    I am not stating that whatever caused the universe to start is not material. I am merely stating that there is something that caused our universe. I think that the knife must cut both ways here and...
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    [quote=Guisslapp;453283]I have read Aquinas's proofs on God's existence (they are not very long). But his five examples (including the unmoved mover - which might have been the first one if memory...
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    I'll give you that the horizontal cosmological argument could be wrong. Although I do beleive there is good evidence for the beginning of the universe.
    Second Law of Thermodynamics: "The entropy of...
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    Re: Let's Get Metaphysical Baby

    I consider myself an Aristotilean/Thomist and agree with most of this post. However, there are a few things that I must disagree with.

    First, it is a hasty generalization to claim that all of...
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