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^"reasonability" is a fairly subjective concept, don't you think?

randerizer is correct that using the opinions of scientists is not a very persuasive argument, and certainly does not constitute a scientific argument.

it does, however, at least raise the...

now the logical progression of objectivism makes perfect sense! well, look on the bright side: she may have turned you into a newt, but at least you got better.

you missed my point. an abortion is not simply the removal of life support.

the overwhelming majority of society does not share your self-contradicting "objective" morality.

the answer to you question is in the question itself. what is the difference? "no or minimal hope of recovery"
we're not talking about supporting a fetus indefinitely. we're talking about...

if the overwhelming majority of society knew what you and i know about fetuses, they would deem it morally unacceptable.

my answer was basically that we don't outlaw murder because it is against God's law. we shouldn't outlaw abortion simply because it is against God's law, either.

what i'm saying is that it is a...

that's because they don't understand the bible, but yes, nice attempt at a thread jack. we shall see if it is successful...

that's a great chapter. i believe the part you are referring to is verses 13 through 16. this is probably the best passage for a religious opposition to abortion. it speaks of God creating the...

let me explain -- no, is too much -- let me sum up.
no one has ever shown me convincing evidence that the bible defines conception as the moment that a person becomes a person (before modern times,...

oui, je suis un christien.

i do not oppose abortion on religious grounds (at least not any more than i oppose murder on religious grounds). in other words, the reason i believe abortion is murder has nothing to do with...

i never said he was pro-abortion.
but if rudy is in favor of the states deciding, then he must believe that roe v. wade was wrongly decided. that puts him on the same side as pro-lifers.


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spinoza,
quit being such a baby. nobody is trying to deny your right of free speech. i'm sure you ignore that which you deem to be nonsense whenever possible. don't criticize others for doing...

as tautologies go, "crap is crap" works pretty well around here sometimes. and most people don't mind being ignorant of crap.

i'm glad you agree.


i am more than tired of reading the same accusations from spinoza with nothing to back them up.


you are correct that the words "pro-choice" do not imply pro-abortion,...

that's what democrats have been saying for years to make themselves sound less pro-abortion. nothing new about it, except it has been a while since a republican frontrunner has done it.