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Maybe if senility were the problem....Not much hope for D65.... he is blind to reality...by choice.

Different times...Different paths... Holtz has advantages the previous coaches only dreamed of.

Give JRP and Bicknell the recruiting tools available that weren’t as widely available in their day...Bicknell won a WAC championship and so did Dykes...JRP paved the road...Dooley poured the...

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:) K , if you say so...

So which one couldn’t have won in the current CUSA?

We got him cheap and he is Lou’s son...got us a little publicity!

We lost to LSU, will most likely lose to MS. State... what happens if we win those games? I know it’s crazy talk....but we used to play 2-3 money games and play in the WAC and MWC....We dreamed of...

JRP, Bicknell,Dooley, Dykes would have won more than one CUSA championship in 6 years....

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Yes, they do, when the investors demand more...the executives make changes or get fired....

So Holtz and staff performance would be better if .....?

So he is underachieving but it is not egregious enough to be fired....Holtz is who he is....he will seldom overachieve. I think his history proves it....is that enough?

[QUOTE=PawDawg;1712160]I don't expect him to be fired. I expect him to be held to a higher standard by his bosses though. Losing these home games in the fashion he loses them in is inexcusable. He...

The financial supporters of the program wanted and expected more...we are a divided group with a large group of people comfortable with where we are....

Let’s take the 4 winning seasons and 4 bowl games argument...Has attendance improved? Has game day atmosphere and tailgating improved? Has the competition improved? We do have a new press box and...

He could probably beat Simsboro since they don't have a football team, but I agree the comparisons to Bower need to stop.

Yes, Bower won championships in a different era of bowl games....Holtz has had opportunities, has yet to capitalize.

Yep! Always need someone to keep things real!

Draw your own conclusions, but please do some research before making a decision...it could be eye opening.

Well.....who recruited J’mar? Who has coached J’mar? Is the good ole boy network alive and well at La Tech?

Exactly...

Higgins was the right choice although many fans were screaming for J’mar after the Arkansas game...Holtz has his faults, no doubt, if we had a better option at Qb he would be playing.

If we had a better option, he would have had some snaps by now...the fact that we haven’t seen a change is very telling. Very disappointing but....it’s who we are at this time.

In reality, J’mar probably is out best option....which means we have done a terrible job of recruiting and identifying talent. There are probably at least a half dozen or so Qb’s from the DFW area...

Bower won four conference championships and played in a fifth title game...Skip has had the Dawgs in 2 championship games and lost both.

We have played in 4 straight bowl games....is that enough...

It’s not that he doesn’t care...just doesn’t know how to change the situation....keeps listening to the same voices that DR did.