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BTW, I support the notion that the US needs to ween itself off of oil, as much as possible. I understand that won't be practicle on a wide-ranging basis, i.e. vehicles work best on gasoline, period....

Full disclosure: again, I have to state my position on the GW issue, and that is, my beef is there is still no true scientific evidence that can categorically prove that man is contributing to GW to...

Global Warming advocates took a hit this week. Seems the melting ice cap at Greenland is due to a magma dome that has risen near the surface. Might still cause some problems, but nature, the Earth...

I know exactly what's happening: too many folks (you?) confuse politically-tainted pseudo-science with REAL science. Now, that's the fact, Jack.

As for water temps. well, the Gulf is 1.5 F (on...

Oh yeah, the GW advocacy were indeed giddy with excitement about the worse than normal 2005 cane season. They were all over TV shouting out that this was tangible proof of GW. With each named storm...

So, I guess you are predicting (and hoping for) a busy September for canes.

Fact is, the doomsayers predicted, what was it, 17 major named-storms and just revised that prediction down by 5. I,...

Well. alta, you have been asked twice to reveal the location of the "magic spot" and your lack of response is deafening!!!

You posted that as a defense for your argument and even claimed that...

Where is THIS SPOT?

All that data tells us is average temp for that spot. Can be many, many reasons why THAT SPOT experiences fluctuations in temps, which do not mirror nor reflect changes...

Well, at least the GW thread is in the right place on this board: the Political Forum. It certainly wouldn't last but a few seconds on a true Science Forum.

All of the real science ever been...

Thanks Double D!

So, Mar's atmosphere is 95% CO2 and its mostly very cold. That's interesting. Of course it is 50% further away from the sun than the Earth, which places it about 140 million...

I was watching the Discovery-Science Channel, a show called "The Real Mars" (as if someone was out there promoting a fake Mars, or something). Anyway, the cold surface temps on Mars, the show stated,...

Debbie is a true field scientist.

Tell ya what, you people are nuts. This thread is starting to rival the Best Thread Ever in its length. If you're gonna talk about the world warming up, that means women can wear less clothes, so...

I hear it's cows farting. Least, that's what they say.

According to the National Weather Service's Hurricane Center, the Gulf is actually cooler than last year. At this time last year, Katrini time, the Gulf waters ranged from 88-91F. This year they are...

Most environmental wackos point to the destruction of the Amazon rainforest as the single biggest threat. Well, I agree! So, I think the US should invade and kill/capture those environmental...

Why are you laughing? I saw a report on the Discovery Channel? I think, anyway, these pro-GW advocates were trying to explain their earlier predictions of the next ice age by saying now that GW will...

The global warming alarmists used to say that just a 1 degree rise in average temp around the globe would have catastrophic effects. Such as melting ice caps that would inturn flood coastal areas.
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Also, he says something to the effect of: there hasn't been this kind of change in millions of years.....hmmm, how does he know that?

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Correct me if I am wrong, but an agnostic is someone seeking proof of God's existence, right? An atheist simply does not believe in God and no amount of "proof" or evidence will convince...

I don't see the point of arguing with an atheist. Jesus said, if you are not with me, you are against me. And, if you are not with Jesus you'll be on the outside looking in to Paradise for all time. ...