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i find it interesting that you seem to think that christians have by and large walked in lock-step throughout history. i seem to recall more than a couple of schisms, great awakenings,...

what was it?

which was my point. anything we say regarding the 'outside of time' (whatever that is) is conjecture. glad we somehow debated the same side of an argument with each other for the past 10...

i guess what i am trying to say is there is no way of knowing how concious beings would be effected by being outside of time. i think by saying 'perception is a function of change' you are saying...

i don't think you can say that with any real confidence since we are confined (if that is the right word) by time and can't concieve anything surely out side of it

while i still think 'why?' is a relevant question, i feel that 'how?' in regards to existance of matter is possibly a more compelling one (at least scientifically). how does not necessitate a...

why is it useless?

i would say so. the existance of something science tells us can neither be created nor destroyed, begs at least the question, 'how is it here?' if not 'why?'

was that a response to me? because i agree with that. just because i say that i think that evolution (macro) has happened does not mean that i think it is without fault. i've stated that the...

i'd go further to say that the real question is what is God's intention in the book of genesis? is it to represent a snapshot of actual history? is it to represent in understandable terms a clear...

young earth theory as i understand it is the belief that the earth was created in 6 literal days and, from that chonology, would put the earth (and i assume all the univese) at being approximately...

can you see young earth as consistant with your knowledge regarding science? and if so, how?

are you 'young earth?' just curious...i promise not to judge you. :D

it is not he language that would necessarily have to suggest it. the fact that it was written by jews at the time that it was written is enough to lend support to it being symbolic (and when i say...

how do you reconcile that belief with the present scientific evidence (i.e. 'old earth') coupled with the fact that most ancient hebrew literature is highly symbolic?

...or monotremes for that matter?

right and that is why thousands of trained scientists have yet to completely iron out the wrinkles. you hurt your side of the arguement by not admitting its shortcomings.

as much as i respect a literalist approach to this topic, that is not the context in which i asked the question.

if you want to know my opinion on how the narrative of genesis is both completely...

if this thread dies before that happens, pm it to me.

would it be your position that all species that ever existed existed, at the initial point, simultaneously?

how would the anti-macro-evolutionist explain the origins of more recent species. by this i mean we have no evidence that the modern gecko was around at the same time as the t-rex...so how did this...

that's a decent article...i don't agree with the second half of his 'conclusion' sentence...but you probably would expect that since it is essentially the same thing you have said. this is the part...

i am rare, thanks for noticing. i'm not sure what your definition of ID because of the scientific facade comment, but i will tell you that i personally don't think ID and evolution warrant debate as...

well, first: i am an intelligent design guy that has no problem with evolution. second: i said earlier that your arguements were based on assumptions (albeit, ones that might well be true) that...

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i think the main problem with your posts is that the majority of the folks arguing against evo are not using their religious beliefs as a basis for evo not being true...you brought up the...