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    Re: Dangerous Global Cooling III

    Where "renewables" make sense, like hydro-electric, wind/solar for those applications that actually work, fine! great! But we will always need fossil fuels. Period.

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    Re: Dangerous Global Cooling III

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Where "renewables" make sense, like hydro-electric, wind/solar for those applications that actually work, fine! great! But we will always need fossil fuels. Period.
    Dont necessarily disagree but am interested in your rationale. I do agree its not going anywhere in the next 50 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    Not necessarily. I'm a big believer in renewables, not because I think we're running out of oil/destroying the environment, but because they're legitimate sources of energy God has placed in our world and given us the intellect to harness. Its our dominion, after all.
    And the good Lord gave us His buried treasures called oil and gas as well as the "intellect to harness" them for our purpose/needs "in our dominion".

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    An engineer/physicist can better explain than me, but basically it's the amount of energy contained in a fossil fuel, such as a gallon of gas, when used directly to power an engine. So, you actually use less fossil fuel when using it directly. Otherwise, energy is lost in great percentages if, say, you use fossil fuels to power a plant to generate electricity to power/charge vehicles.

    The internal combustion engine, and its off-shoots, powered the industrial revolution and powers the world today.

    In the case of vehicles, maybe some small nuclear power plant can be devised to run them, but oh boy! can you imagine the "fall out" (no pun intended) from the whackos! Only real option is to make internal combustion engines as efficient as possible. But, we'll need fossil fuels until the end of time.

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    Re: Dangerous Global Cooling III

    I'm not a whacko, but no way in hell would I be okay with cars having a nuclear power generator on them.

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    Re: Dangerous Global Cooling III

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    I'm not a whacko, but no way in hell would I be okay with cars having a nuclear power generator on them.
    Okay....make that one NO vote for nuke-powered cars.

    Thanks for your participation.

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    Re: Dangerous Global Cooling III

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Okay....make that one NO vote for nuke-powered cars.

    Thanks for your participation.
    Nuclear power as means to power cities I'm good with. As long as those involve are competent.

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    Re: Dangerous Global Cooling III

    How about a nuke plant to generate electricity to charge up electric vehicles....and to provide electricity to consumers: houses, buildings....

    The French, yes, the FRENCH! have been working on the issues of nuke power, like what to do with the radioactive rods when they are replaced in the plant. They have come up with some good solutions.

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    Re: Dangerous Global Cooling III

    And still the left rants even when caught lying their arse off per the facts.

    NOVEMBER: 9,000 RECORD COLD TEMPS...

    Lake Erie coldest in decades...

    2014 CHICAGO COLDEST IN 110 YEARS...

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    Re: Dangerous Global Cooling III

    Of course most of Americans have read these latest news stories right? No...?...?

    Dueling Datasets: Satellite Temperatures Reveal the ‘Global Warming Pause’ Lengthens to 18 years 2 months – (218 Months)

    There are at least 66 excuses to explain the global warming 'pause' 'The hiatus period of 18 years 2 months, or 218 months, is the farthest back one can go in the RSS (Remote Sensing Systems) satellite temperature record and still show a sub-zero trend.'

    http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/12/04/duelling-data-sets-satellite-temperatures-reveal-the-global-warming-pause-lengthens-to-18-years-2-months-218-months/

    Earth's sea ice expands to record high...


    STUDY: Carbon dioxide emissions help rainforests grow faster...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2891432/Carbon-dioxide-emissions-help-tropical-rainforests-grow-faster-Study-shows-trees-absorb-greenhouse-gas-expected.html

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    Re: Dangerous Global Cooling III

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Of course most of Americans have read these latest news stories right? No...?...?

    Dueling Datasets: Satellite Temperatures Reveal the ‘Global Warming Pause’ Lengthens to 18 years 2 months – (218 Months)

    There are at least 66 excuses to explain the global warming 'pause' 'The hiatus period of 18 years 2 months, or 218 months, is the farthest back one can go in the RSS (Remote Sensing Systems) satellite temperature record and still show a sub-zero trend.'


    http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/12/04/duelling-data-sets-satellite-temperatures-reveal-the-global-warming-pause-lengthens-to-18-years-2-months-218-months/

    Earth's sea ice expands to record high...


    STUDY: Carbon dioxide emissions help rainforests grow faster...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2891432/Carbon-dioxide-emissions-help-tropical-rainforests-grow-faster-Study-shows-trees-absorb-greenhouse-gas-expected.html
    Links today are straight from Drudge.

    14 STATES COLDER THAN MARS...

    Record Snowfall Florida...

    Teams to Fight Frigid Air in Green Bay, New England NFL Playoffs...

    Indian Science Conference: 'Fears of man-made 'global warming' were greatly exaggerated'...

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    Just remember this while reading today's global warming gloom and doomer news.


    Scientists balk at ‘hottest year’ claims: Ignores Satellites showing 18 Year ‘Pause’ – ‘We are arguing over the significance of hundredths of a degree’ – The ‘Pause’ continues


    Climate Depot's Marc Morano: 'Claiming 2014 is the 'hottest year' on record based on hundredths of a degree temperature difference is a fancy way of saying the global warming 'pause' is continuing.'
    Astrophysicist Dr. Dr David Whitehouse: 'The NASA press release is highly misleading...talk of a record is scientifically and statistically meaningless.'
    Climatologist Dr. Roy Spencer: ‘Why 2014 Won’t Be the Warmest Year on Record’ (based on surface data)– ‘We are arguing over the significance of hundredths of a degree’
    Climatologist Dr. Pat Michaels debunks 2014 ‘hottest year’ claim: ‘Is 58.46° then distinguishable from 58.45°? In a word, ‘NO.’
    No Record Temperatures According To Satellites
    Physicist Dr. Lubos Motl: ‘Please laugh out loud when someone will be telling you that it was the warmest year’
    Climatologist Dr. Roger Pielke Sr.: 'We have found a significant warm bias. Thus, the reported global average surface temperature anomaly is also too warm.'
    Climatologist Dr. Judith Curry: 'With 2014 essentially tied with 2005 and 2010 for hottest year, this implies that there has been essentially no trend in warming over the past decade.'




    http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/01/...use-continues/

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    Re: Dangerous Global Cooling III

    And these are the guys projecting/predicting global warming over eons and can't even get a little storm right??


    Storm Fails To Live Up To Predictions In Some Areas As National Weather Service Meteorologist Apologizes

    January 27, 2015 12:40 PM

    NEW YORK (CBS Connecticut/AP) — A howling blizzard with wind gusts over 70 mph heaped snow on Boston along with other stretches of lower New England and Long Island on Tuesday but failed to live up to the hype in Philadelphia and New York City, where buses and subways started rolling again in the morning.
    Gary Szatkowski, meteorologist-in-charge at the National Weather Service in Mt. Holly, New Jersey, apologized on Twitter for the snow totals being cut back.
    “My deepest apologies to many key decision makers and so many members of the general public,” Szatkowski tweeted. “You made a lot of tough decisions expecting us to get it right, and we didn’t. Once again, I’m sorry.”
    http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2015...in-some-areas/


    Blame De Blasio and Cuomo and Christie for the Blizzard Snow Job

    As politicians rushed to out-serious each other, New Yorkers were whipped into a fear frenzy.


    Every modern event has a hashtag and this morning, as New York City takes stock of the #snowmageddon2015 that wasn’t, it’s turning to #snowperbole.
    On Monday, as Governor Cuomo, Governor Christie, and Mayor de Blasio rushed to out-serious each other, New Yorkers were whipped into a fear frenzy. Supermarket shelves were stripped bare, photos of Whole Foods depleted of kale circulated, and people stocked up for what would likely be days (maybe weeks!) indoors.
    Even as we were doing it, we acknowledged it didn’t make much sense. After all, we’re in New York City. Bodegas never close. Delivery guys on bicycles have been a constant through all previous winter storms. All New Yorkers have their stories. That time we ordered Chinese Food during the snowstorm of 1994. Swimming on Brighton Beach during Hurricane Gloria. Buying Poptarts at the corner bodega during Sandy. Driving from Manhattan to Brooklyn and back again during the blackout of 2003. Yes, those are all mine.



    http://time.com/3684240/blame-de-bla...zard-snow-job/
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