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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    I guess Obama/Hillary's deal and payout to the Russians and Iran didn't work huh Guislapp?


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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Thank the Good Lord! "I will bless those who bless you,
    and whoever curses you I will curse"
    And America, under Trump, will be on Israel's side and continue to be blessed by God and grow, despite the evil rants of the Godless left in our country!


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    2“I will make you into a great nation,and I will bless you;I will make your name great,and you will be a blessing.
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    3I will bless those who bless you,and whoever curses you I will curse;and all peoples on earthwill be blessed through you.” b

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Worth posting user two threads.

    Obama and his ex-aides were and still are delusional.

    Rep. Crenshaw chides 'echo chamber' Obama aide Ben Rhodes for doubting US intel linking Iran to tanker attack


    Rep. Dan Crenshaw of Texas slammed former top Obama adviser Ben Rhodes for questioning U.S. claims that Iran attacked oil tankers near the Strait of Hormuz and downplayed the threat from the regime.
    Rhodes, a leading figure within the Obama administration who pushed for the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran, suggested the U.S. official assessment of the tanker attacks shouldn’t be taken for granted, saying only an international investigation can get to the bottom of the incident.


    “This definitely feels like the kind of incident where you'd want an international investigation to establish what happened. Huge risk of escalation,” Rhodes said in a tweet.
    This prompted a stark rebuttal from Crenshaw, the freshman congressman and former U.S. Navy SEAL officer, who blasted Rhodes for downplaying the danger posed by the Iranian regime and doubting the intelligence community.

    “So, do or don’t believe the Intel community? And you’re not really a trusted source to weigh in on Iran,” Crenshaw wrote in a tweet. “You sold the public the falsehood of a moderating Iranian regime - using your media ‘echo chamber’ (your words)- & ignoring the true danger Iran presents in the region.”
    “I’ve been watching for years as Iran moves weapons to proxies around the region, looking for opportunities to destabilize & wreak havoc, and then claim innocence. This is not new. And the Administration is right to strengthen our regional presence as a deterrence,” Crenshaw added.





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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Obama, Joe Biden, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton really screwed the entire world over with their dealings and lack of dealings with Iran. Touchy feely Democrats just can't handle foreign policy or state and local for that matter.

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Obama, Joe Biden, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton really screwed the entire world over with their dealings and lack of dealings with Iran. Touchy feely Democrats just can't handle foreign policy or state and local for that matter.

    U.S. Puts Iran on Notice and Weighs Response to Attack on Oil Tankers...
    DRONE TRACKED BOATS...
    Credibility, skepticism...
    Tehran Billboard Shows Destroyed US-Israeli Ships: 'We Drowned Them All'...
    Fears of confrontation rise...
    Pentagon readies...
    Gulf States Boost Oil Security...
    Hackers That Took Down Saudi Oil Site Probing U.S. Power Grid...



    WAR DRUMS
    What are you talking about? This literally was caused by Trump pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal and slapping the sanctions back on.

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Amazing. Trump should have just let them build more nukes.

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Amazing. Trump should have just let them build more nukes.
    That's what anarchists like Goosey want! They hope the US gets destroyed, or wrecked to the point that all order is lost and the leftists think they'll be the ones calling the shots rebuilding the world. No US Constitution for them!

    Funny thing...that was Charles Manson's crazy scheme too. He thought he could incite a race war where he thought the blacks would win, but then they would be too stupid to govern themselves, and as the lone surviving whitey he would be called on to be the ruler.

    I know it all sounds far-fetched...that is absolutely true about Manson...but this is the way leftists think.

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Amazing. Trump should have just let them build more nukes.
    When a predictable negative outcome comes from a Trump action - whether Iran or immigration - we already know your playbook: blame Obama! Lol

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    When a predictable negative outcome comes from a Trump action - whether Iran or immigration - we already know your playbook: blame Obama! Lol
    That’s rich coming from you. You’re a hypocrite.

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Quote Originally Posted by glm47 View Post
    That’s rich coming from you. You’re a hypocrite.
    As an exercise in empathy, I will acknowledge that if I didn’t give as much thought to the issue, I might feel the same was as you.

    But back to being thoughtful...another predictable outcome to us slapping on sanctions on Iran, particularly on restricting banks and our allies that were still party to the Iran deal, we have abused our economic power as the “world’s currency” in a way that we will probably regret for decades as the rest of the world chooses against the USD.

    For the past 50 years we have enjoyed enormous benefits that we don’t usually think about because of our economic hegemony - bought in large part of our open banking systems, political independence of the Fed, and TRUST. Trump pisses away this hegemony without even a moment’s consideration.

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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    What are you talking about? This literally was caused by Trump pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal and slapping the sanctions back on.
    You've absolutely lost it when looking at the bigger pictures per the political and foreign policy fronts and "cause vs. effects".

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    Four secret assets account for Iran’s success in pulling off half a dozen attacks on US allies in the past month, peaking in the sabotage of two oil tankers



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    Re: Obama’s secret dealings with Iran conflict with US-Israeli understandings

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    When a predictable negative outcome comes from a Trump action - whether Iran or immigration - we already know your playbook: blame Obama! Lol
    Not me. W gets as much blame as BHO but in different areas. They both failed by going along with deep state trade practices like NAFTA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Not me. W gets as much blame as BHO but in different areas. They both failed by going along with deep state trade practices like NAFTA.
    Yeppers!

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    Iran: we shot down this drone because it was flying over our air space

    Trump: it must be a mistake because “I find it hard to believe it was intentional”

    Would be funny except Trump’s illpreparedness and miscalculations can have profound consequences.

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