SkunkApeKiller Manifesto 2.0

[SkunkApeKiller]

yeah...i don't care what "ranking" a team has that wins the mac/sun belt? win your your division, your conference and then knock off your partner conference and your in....simple?

[ChipDog]

Those that say that teams that win their conference should be guaranteed a spot in the playoffs. There's plenty of people that think this way.

If only the conference champs were allowed to play for the championship, it would correct some of the problems with the current system. If for instance a team was continually ending up last in the SEC or Big __, their best bet might be to negotiate a move to say the Sun Belt. They may want to give up the guaranteed money flow for a chance at the big championship, while allowing a dominant team in a 'lesser" conference a chance to step up their competition.

[SkunkApeKiller]

i don't see any schools leaving the top 6 conferences to join the sun belt or mac anytime soon...

the tier two schools have a 1 in 28 chance of making the playoffs
the acc and big east have a 1 in 12
the pac 12 have a 1 in 4 chance
the big 12, big 10, and sec have a 1 in 5 chance

sounds fair to me....?

[SkunkApeKiller]

Skunkapekiller manifesto 2.0


big 6 conferences

big 10 conference

east division

pennsylvania state
michigan
michigan state
ohio state
maryland
north carolina
rutgers
virginia

west division

iowa
illinois
indiana
minnesota
nebraska
northwestern
purdue
wisconsin

big 12 conference

north division

texas
texas tech
baylor
oklahoma
oklahoma state
kansas
kansas state
iowa state

south division

notre dame
west virginia
texas christian
brigham young
boise state
miami
florida state
clemson

pac 12 conference

north division

washinton state
washington
oregon
oregon state
stanford
california-berkely

south division

arizona
arizona state
california-los angeles
southern california
colorado
utah

southeastern conference

west division

arkansas
missouri
texas a&m
louisiana state
kentucky
tennessee
mississippi
mississippi state

east division

alabama
vanderbilt
georgia
georgia tech
virginia tech
south carolina
florida
auburn

atlantic coast conference

north division

louisville
boston college
syracuse
pittsburgh
connecticut
cicinnati

south division

memphis
south florida
north carolina state
east carolina
duke
wake forest

big east conference

east division
southern methodist
houston
temple
army
navy
central florida

west division

air force
san diego state
hawaii
fresno state
nevada-las vegas
texas-el paso

mountain west conference

north division

idaho
montana
montana state
north dakota
north dakota state
portland state
sacramento state

south division

wyoming
colorado state
san jose state
nevada-reno
utah state
new mexico
new mexico state

conference usa

west division

tulsa
rice
north texas
texas-san antonio
louisiana tech
tulane
texas state

east division

marshall
florida international
north carolina-charlotte
southern mississippi
alabama-birmingham
old dominion
delaware

mid-american conference

north division

bowling green
ball state
toledo
northern illinois
western michigan
central michigan
eastern michigan

south division

miami
kent state
akron
ohio
buffalo
youngstown state
massachusetts

sun belt conference

east division

florida atlantic
appalachian state
georgia state
georgia southern
middle tennessee state
james madison
liberty

west division

louisiana-monroe
louisiana-lafayette
arkansas state
jacksonville state
troy
south alabama
western kentucky


c-usa / mountain west conference scheduling alliance + sun belt conference / mac scheduling alliance
6 conference games (3 home and 3 away) / 2 flex games (1 home and 1 away)
4 conference championship games--division with highest winning % during flex play hosts on campus game
mountain west conference (north division versus south division)
conference usa (east division versus west division)
sun belt (east division versus west division)
mid-american conference (north division versus south division)

2 championship games--conference with highest winning % during flex play hosts on campus game
mountain west conference versus conference usa
sun belt versus mid-american conference

flex games are 1 home / 1 away every year between c-usa / mwc and sun belt / mac
(ex: Wyoming hosts montana / wyoming travels to tulsa one year and wyoming travels to idaho / host rice the next year)
(ex: La-tech host alabama-birmingham / la-tech travels to colorado state one year and la-tech travels to marshall / host new mexico the next year)
(ex: Akron hosts toledo / akron travels to georgia southern one year and akron travels to ball state / host georgia state the next year)
(ex: Georgia state hosts jacksonville state / georgia state travels to bowling green one year and georgia state travels to troy / host western michigan the next year)

example of wyoming's mwc schedule:
Home versus colorado state
away versus san jose state
home versus nevada-reno
away versus utah state
home versus new mexico
away versus new mexico state
home versus montana (flex game in conference)
away versus tulsa (flex game out of conference)
home versus north dakota state (mwc championship game)
home versus la-tech (mwc / c-usa championship game)

example of la-tech c-usa schedule:
Home versus tulsa
away versus north texas
home versus texas-san antonio
away versus rice
home versus tulane
away versus texas state
home versus alabama-birmingham (flex game in conference)
away versus colorado state (flex game out of conference)
home versus delaware (c-usa championship game)
away versus wyoming (mwc / c-usa championship game)

example of akron's mac schedule:
Home versus miami
away versus kent state
home versus ohio
away versus buffalo
home versus massachusetts
away versus youngstown state
home versus toledo (flex game in conference)
away versus georgia southern (flex game out of conference)
home versus western michigan (mac championship game)
home versus georgia state (sun belt / mac championship game)

example of georgia state's sun belt schedule:
Home versus florida atlantic
away versus appalachian state
home versus georgia southern
away versus middle tennesse state
home versus james madison
away versus liberty
home versus jacksonville state (flex game in conference)
away versus bowling green (flex game out of conference)
home versus troy (sun belt championship game)
away versus akron (sun belt / mac championship game)


big 6 conference schools--big 10, big 12, pac 12, sec, acc, and big east
play 7 conference games / 2 out of conferences games / 1 championship game
big 6 out of conference games are played within the big 6 conferences

16 teams make the national tournament
124 remaining teams can accept bids to current bowls

sun belt/mac 1 automatic bid
mwc/c-usa 1 automatic bid
big east 1 automatic bid
acc 1 automatic bid
big 12 3 automatic bids
pac 12 3 automatic bids
big 10 3 automatic bids
sec 3 automatic bids


round of 16 (eight home games to highest seeds)
1. Lsu v 16. Georgia state (sun belt / mac)
2. Oregon v 15. Wyoming (c-usa / mwc)
3. Alabama v 14. Hawaii (big east)
4. Arkansas v 13. Boston college (acc)
5. Michigan v 12. Ohio state
6. Miami v 11. Florida state
7. Ucla v 10. Usc
8. Texas v 9. Wisconsin

round of 8 (bowl sites)
1. Lsu v 8. Oklahoma (cotton bowl)
2. Alabama v 7. Wisconsin (peach bowl)
3. Usc v 5. Florida state (gator bowl)
4. Oregon v 6. Ohio state (orange bowl)

round of 4 (bowl sites-rotation between the 3 sites)
1. Lsu v 4. Ohio state (fiesta bowl)
2. Usc v 3. Wisconsin (rose bowl)

national championship (jan 1st)
1. Lsu v 2. Usc (sugar bowl)

[SkunkApeKiller]

added one more conference game for the big 6 conferences and one ooc game for the "tier two" conferences...new and last manifesto to be posted shortly.....stay tuned

[Woof!]

If only the conference champs were allowed to play for the championship, it would correct some of the problems with the current system.

Maybe. It could likely cause more problems.

If for instance a team was continually ending up last in the SEC or Big __, their best bet might be to negotiate a move to say the Sun Belt. They may want to give up the guaranteed money flow for a chance at the big championship, while allowing a dominant team in a 'lesser" conference a chance to step up their competition.

You could also say that a conference that never had any of its member teams advance in the playoffs, shouldn't have a guaranteed spot in the playoffs at the expense of a higher ranked, second place team in a more competitive conference. People are upset enough with Big East conference having an automatic bid to BCS bowl, so I don't think there will be a move to make things worse with conference champs getting into the playoffs automatically (unless you think that a Sun Belt conference champ is more powerful than a second place Pac12, Big 12, big 10, or SEC team).

[DogtorEvil]

Mods, can you change the name of this thread to Skunk Ass Ramblings?

I thought Ted Kaczynski was "previously detained" but apparently not.

[SkunkApeKiller]

Maybe. It could likely cause more problems.



You could also say that a conference that never had any of its member teams advance in the playoffs, shouldn't have a guaranteed spot in the playoffs at the expense of a higher ranked, second place team in a more competitive conference. People are upset enough with Big East conference having an automatic bid to BCS bowl, so I don't think there will be a move to make things worse with conference champs getting into the playoffs automatically (unless you think that a Sun Belt conference champ is more powerful than a second place Pac12, Big 12, big 10, or SEC team).

the reason why the mens ncca d1 basketball tournament is worth billions and one the most popular sporting event in the us is because each school (and their fans) control their own destiny...if your in an auto-bid conference win your conference and your in...is the winner of the Southland tournament better than some teams that didn't make the basketball tournament? probably not but they had a chance of getting in by winning their tournament or an at large bid.... would the winner of the sun belt/mac be better than some of the teams from the sec or big 12 that didn't get into the football tournament? probably not but they had a chance to get in by winning their conference or getting one of the two other bids the sec or big 12 are awarded.

follow the money!!

[OLDBLUE]

Mods, can you change the name of this thread to Skink Ass Ramblings?

I thought Ted Kaczynski was "previously detained" but apparently not.

FIFY.

[SkunkApeKiller]

Skunkapekiller manifesto 2.0

big 10 conference


east division


pennsylvania state

michigan

michigan state

ohio state

maryland

north carolina

rutgers

virginia


west division


iowa

illinois

indiana

minnesota

nebraska

northwestern

purdue

wisconsin


　

　

　

　

　

big 12 conference


north division


texas

texas tech

baylor

oklahoma

oklahoma state

kansas

kansas state

iowa state


south division


notre dame

west virginia

texas christian

brigham young

boise state

miami

florida state

clemson


　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

pacific 12 conference


north division


washinton state

washington

oregon

oregon state

stanford

california-berkely


south division


arizona

arizona state

california-los angeles

southern california

colorado

utah


　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

southeastern conference


east division


alabama

vanderbilt

georgia

georgia tech

virginia tech

south carolina

florida

auburn


west division


arkansas

missouri

texas a&m

louisiana state

kentucky

tennessee

mississippi

mississippi state


　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

atlantic coast conference


north division


louisville

boston college

syracuse

pittsburgh

connecticut

cicinnati


south division


duke

north carolina state

wake forest

east carolina

south florida

memphis


　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

big east conference


east division


southern methodist

houston

temple

army

navy

central florida


west division


air force

san diego state

hawaii

fresno state

nevada-las vegas

texas-el paso


　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

mountain west conference


north division


idaho

montana

montana state

north dakota

north dakota state

portland state

sacramento state


south division


wyoming

colorado state

san jose state

nevada-reno

utah state

new mexico

new mexico state


　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

conference usa


east division


marshall

florida international

north carolina-charlotte

southern mississippi

alabama-birmingham

old dominion

delaware


west division


tulsa

rice

north texas

texas-san antonio

louisiana tech

tulane

texas state


　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

mid-american conference


east division


miami

kent state

akron

ohio

buffalo

youngstown state

massachusetts


west division


bowling green

ball state

toledo

northern illinois

western michigan

central michigan

eastern michigan


　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

sun belt conference


east division


florida atlantic

appalachian state

georgia state

georgia southern

middle tennessee state

james madison

liberty


　

west division


louisiana-monroe

louisiana-lafayette

arkansas state

jacksonville state

troy

south alabama

western kentucky


　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

c-usa / mountain west conference scheduling alliance + sun belt conference / mac scheduling alliance


6 conference games--3 home and 3 away

2 flex games--1 home and 1 away

1 out of conference game


4 conference championship games--division with highest winning % during flex play hosts on campus game

mountain west conference (north division versus south division)

conference usa (east division versus west division)

sun belt (east division versus west division)

mid-american conference (east division versus west division)




2 championship games--conference with highest winning % during flex play hosts on campus game

mountain west conference versus conference usa

sun belt versus mid-american conference




flex games are 1 home / 1 away every year between c-usa / mwc and sun belt / mac


wyoming hosts montana / wyoming travels to tulsa one year and wyoming travels to idaho / host rice the next year


la-tech host alabama-birmingham / la-tech travels to colorado state one year and la-tech travels to marshall / host new mexico the next year


akron hosts toledo / akron travels to georgia southern one year and akron travels to ball state / host georgia state the next year


georgia state hosts jacksonville state / georgia state travels to kent state one year and georgia state travels to troy / host ohio the next year

example of wyoming's mwc schedule


away versus auburn (ooc game)

home versus colorado state

away versus san jose state

home versus nevada-reno

away versus utah state

home versus new mexico

away versus new mexico state

home versus montana (flex game in conference)

away versus tulsa (flex game out of conference)

home versus north dakota state (mwc championship game)

home versus la-tech (mwc / c-usa championship game)

away versus oregon (first round of national tournament)





example of la-tech’s c-usa schedule


away versus usc (ooc game)

home versus tulsa

away versus north texas

home versus texas-san antonio

away versus rice

home versus tulane

away versus texas state

home versus alabama-birmingham (flex game in conference)

away versus colorado state (flex game out of conference)

home versus delaware (c-usa championship game)

away versus wyoming (mwc / c-usa championship game)


　

　

　

　

　

　

example of akron's mac schedule


away versus louisville (ooc game)

home versus miami

away versus kent state

home versus ohio

away versus buffalo

home versus massachusetts

away versus youngstown state

home versus toledo (flex game in conference)

away versus georgia southern (flex game out of conference)

home versus western michigan (mac championship game)

home versus georgia state (sun belt / mac championship game)


　

　

example of georgia state's sun belt schedule


away versus georgia tech (ooc game)

home versus florida atlantic

away versus appalachian state

home versus georgia southern

away versus middle tennesse state

home versus james madison

away versus liberty

home versus jacksonville state (flex game in conference)

away versus kent state (flex game out of conference)

home versus troy (sun belt championship game)

away versus akron (sun belt / mac championship game)

away versus lsu (first round of national tournament))


　

　

　

　

　

　

　

example of usc's pac-12 schedule


home versus la-tech (ooc game) aug 25th

away versus notre dame (ooc game) sept 1st

home versus arizona sept 8th

away versus arizona state sept 15th

home versus ucla sept 22nd

away versus colorado sept 29th

home versus utah oct 6th

away versus stanford oct 13th

home versus oregon state oct 20th

away versus cal-berkely oct 27th

home versus oregon--pac 12 championship game nov 3rd

home versus ucla--first round of national tournament nov 17th

away versus fsu--national quarterfinals @ the gator bowl dec 1st

away versus wisconsin--national semifinals @ the rose bowl dec 15th

away versus lsu--national championship @ the sugar bowl jan 1st


　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

big 10, big 12, pac 12, sec, acc, and big east



8 conference games

2 out of conferences games

1 championship game






16 teams make the national tournament

124 remaining teams can accept bids to bowls that run concurrently to national tourament


　

　

sun belt/mac 1 automatic bid

mwc/c-usa 1 automatic bid

big east 1 automatic bid

acc 1 automatic bid

big 12 3 automatic bids

pac 12 3 automatic bids

big 10 3 automatic bids

sec 3 automatic bids


　



round of 16--eight home games to highest seeds


1. Lsu v 16. Georgia state (sun belt / mac)

2. Oregon v 15. Wyoming (c-usa / mwc)

3. Alabama v 14. Hawaii (big east)

4. Arkansas v 13. Boston college (acc)

5. Michigan v 12. Ohio state

6. Miami v 11. Florida state

7. Usc v 10. Ucla

8. Texas v 9. Wisconsin


　

round of 8--bowl sites


1. Lsu v 8. Oklahoma @ cotton bowl

2. Alabama v 7. Wisconsin @ peach bowl

3. Usc v 5. Florida state @ gator bowl

4. Oregon v 6. Ohio state @ orange bowl


　

　

round of 4--rotation between the fiesta, rose, and sugar bowls


1. Lsu v 4. Ohio state @ fiesta bowl

2. Usc v 3. Wisconsin @ rose bowl


　

national championship


1. Lsu v 2. Usc @ sugar bowl




　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

　

[OLDBLUE]

Hope you enjoyed your weekend and the fever passes. (messin' with you, you obviously enjoy this)

[SkunkApeKiller]

"fever passes?" must be southern thing?

enjoy this? i would enjoy a true playoff system like i proposed but it will probably never happen so i hope my school doesn't jump up because the best result possible would be the something like the Famous Dave's BBQ Bowl...good luck in c-usa and i hope you beat up on texas a&m this fall!!

[SkunkApeKiller]

Skunkapekiller manifesto 2.0

big 10 conference

east division

pennsylvania state
michigan
michigan state
ohio state
maryland
north carolina
rutgers
virginia

west division

iowa
illinois
indiana
minnesota
nebraska
northwestern
purdue
wisconsin


big 12 conference

north division

texas
texas tech
baylor
oklahoma
oklahoma state
kansas
kansas state
iowa state

south division

notre dame
west virginia
texas christian
brigham young
boise state
miami
florida state
clemson


pac 12 conference

north division

washinton state
washington
oregon
oregon state
stanford
california-berkely

south division

arizona
arizona state
california-los angeles
southern california
colorado
utah

southeastern conference

west division

arkansas
missouri
texas a&m
louisiana state
kentucky
tennessee
mississippi
mississippi state

east division

alabama
vanderbilt
georgia
georgia tech
virginia tech
south carolina
florida
auburn

big east conference

east division

boston college
syracuse
pittsburgh
connecticut
wake forest
north carolina state
duke
south florida

west division

memphis
cincinnati
louisville
central florida
southern methodist
houston
nevada-las vegas
san diego state

conference usa

north division

marshall
north carolina-charlotte
east carolina
florida international
delaware
old dominion
army
navy

south division

alabama-birmingham
southern mississippi
tulsa
rice
north texas
texas-san antonio
louisana tech
tulane

mountain west conference

north division

montana
montana state
north dakota
north dakota state
idaho
utah state
san jose state
sacramento state

south division

wyoming
colorado state
air force
nevada-reno
fresno state
new mexico
new mexico state
texas-el paso

mid-american conference

east division

miami
ohio
akron
kent state
youngstown state
buffalo
massachusetts

west division

northern illinois
bowling green
ball state
toledo
central michigan
eastern michigan
western michigan

sun belt conference

east division

florida atlantic
appalachian state
georgia state
georgia southern
middle tennessee state
western kentucky
liberty

west division

louisiana-monroe
louisiana-lafayette
arkansas state
jacksonville state
troy
south alabama
texas state


conference usa / mountain west conference scheduling alliance
sun belt conference / mid-american conference scheduling alliance
6 conference games--3 home and 3 away
2 flex games--1 home and 1 away
1 out of conference game
4 conference championship games--division with highest winning % during flex play hosts on campus game

c-usa--north division versus south division
mwc--north division versus south division
sun belt--east division versus west division
mac--east division versus west division

2 championship games--conference with highest winning % during flex play hosts on campus game
mountain west conference versus conference usa
sun belt versus mid-american conference

flex games are 1 home / 1 away every year between c-usa / mwc and sun belt / mac

wyoming hosts montana / travels to tulsa one year
wyoming travels to idaho / host rice the next year
la-tech host army / travels to colorado state one year
la-tech travels to marshall / host new mexico the next year
akron hosts toledo / travels to georgia southern one year
akron travels to ball state / host georgia state the next year
georgia state hosts jacksonville state / travels to kent state one year
georgia state travels to troy / host buffalo the next year

example of wyoming's mwc schedule:
Away versus washington state--ooc game
home versus colorado state--rival gamed played every year
away versus air force
home versus nevada-reno
away versus fresno state
home versus new mexico
away versus texas-el paso
home versus montana--flex game in conference
away versus tulsa--flex game out of conference
home versus north dakota state--mwc championship game
home versus louisiana-tech--mwc / c-usa championship game

example of louisiana-tech c-usa schedule:
Away versus georgia tech--ooc game
home versus southern mississippi--rival gamed played every year
away versus north texas
home versus texas-san antonio
away versus rice
home versus tulane
away versus tulsa
home versus army--flex game in conference
away versus colorado state--flex game out of conference
home versus delaware--c-usa championship game
away versus wyoming--mwc / c-usa championship game

example of akron's mac schedule:
Away versus louisville--ooc game
home versus miami
away versus kent state
home versus ohio
away versus buffalo
home versus massachusetts
away versus youngstown state
home versus toledo--flex game in conference
away versus georgia southern--flex game out of conference
home versus western michigan--mac championship game
home versus georgia state--sun belt / mac championship game

example of georgia state's sun belt schedule:
Away verus mississippi--ooc game
home versus georgia southern
away versus appalachian state
home versus florida atlantic
away versus middle tennesse state
home versus western kentucky
away versus liberty
home versus jacksonville state--flex game in conference
away versus kent state--flex game out of conference
home versus troy--sun belt championship game
away versus akron--sun belt / mac championship game


example of usc's pac-12 schedule:
Home versus notre dame--aug 25th--ooc game
away versus michigan--sept 1st--ooc game
home versus arizona--sept 8th
away versus arizona state--sept 15th
home versus ucla--sept 22nd
away versus colorado--sept 29th
home versus utah--oct 6th
away versus oregon state--oct 13th
home versus stanford--oct 20th
away versus washington--oct 27th
home versus oregon--pac-12 championship game--nov 3rd
home versus ucla--first round of national tournament--nov 17th
usc versus oregon @ peach bowl in national quarterfinal game--dec 1st
usc versus alabama @ rose bowl in national semi-final game--dec 15th
usc versus lsu @sugar bowl in national championship game--jan 1st



big 10, big 12, pac 12, sec, and big east
8 conference games
2 out of conferences games
1 championship game

16 teams make the national tournament
remaining teams can accept bids to current bowls

sun belt / mac 1 automatic bid
mwc / c-usa 1 automatic bid
big east 2 automatic bids
big 12 3 automatic bids
pac 12 3 automatic bids
big 10 3 automatic bids
sec 3 automatic bids


round of 16--eight home games to highest seeds
1. Lsu v 16. Georgia state (sun belt / mac)
2. Oregon v 15. Wyoming (c-usa / mwc)
3. Alabama v 14. Louisville (big east)
4. Arkansas v 13. Boston college (big east)
5. Michigan v 12. Ohio state
6. Miami v 11. Florida state
7. Usc v 10. Ucla
8. Texas v 9. Wisconsin

round of 8--bowl sites
1. Lsu v 8. Ohio state @ cotton bowl
2. Oregon v 7. Usc @ peach bowl
3. Alabama v 5. Florida state @ gator bowl
4. Arkansas v 6. Texas @ orange bowl

round of 4--bowl sites--rotation between the 3 sites
1. Lsu v 4. Texas @ fiesta bowl
2. Alabama v 3. Usc @ rose bowl

national championship
1. Lsu v 2. Usc @ sugar bowl

[glm47]

Longest post(s) ever?

[Dawgmatic]

Longest post(s) ever?

And the dumbest.