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    Warning signs from S&P?

    US warned on top credit rating by Standard & Poor's
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13118834

    U.S. credit rating outlook lowered by S&P
    http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/18/news...dex.htm?hpt=T2

    S&P Slases Outlook on U.S. to 'Negative' Amid Soaring Debt
    http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2...-soaring-debt/


    This can't be good.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    US warned on top credit rating by Standard & Poor's
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13118834

    U.S. credit rating outlook lowered by S&P
    http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/18/news...dex.htm?hpt=T2

    S&P Slases Outlook on U.S. to 'Negative' Amid Soaring Debt
    http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2...-soaring-debt/


    This can't be good.

    Depends on where you live .... It's Monday and a work day, they're probably busting out the champagne at the WH for an early breakfast at noon.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    What's with all the scare tactics these days? Obama has us on the right track.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    Wallstreet and Bankers basically telling Fed/Congress/WH to hurry up and get their act together on this budget/debt issue.

    Their are a ton of economic reports coming out this week (housing starts, existing home sales, and leading economic indicators) along with a slew of company earning reports. Working in industry and seeing the upswing in production and demand I think the news this week will be good and it will swing back up.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    Quote Originally Posted by GermDawg View Post
    Wallstreet and Bankers basically telling Fed/Congress/WH to hurry up and get their act together on this budget/debt issue.

    Their are a ton of economic reports coming out this week (housing starts, existing home sales, and leading economic indicators) along with a slew of company earning reports. Working in industry and seeing the upswing in production and demand I think the news this week will be good and it will swing back up.
    Agreed.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    I thought this quote was laugable:

    But the US Treasury responded strongly to the change in outlook.

    "We believe S&P's negative outlook underestimates the ability of America's leaders to come together to address the difficult fiscal challenges facing the nation," it said.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    US warned on top credit rating by Standard & Poor's
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13118834

    U.S. credit rating outlook lowered by S&P
    http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/18/news...dex.htm?hpt=T2

    S&P Slases Outlook on U.S. to 'Negative' Amid Soaring Debt
    http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2...-soaring-debt/


    This can't be good.
    It's all going as he planned it!

    link
    Obama downplays...

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    Quote Originally Posted by T_Won View Post
    I thought this quote was laugable:

    But the US Treasury responded strongly to the change in outlook.

    ... underestimates the ability of America's leaders ....
    ..... yep, and that wasn't an estimate either. The jury's no longer out on community organizers.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    Hey are these the same guys that rated the garbage loans from JPM, Morgan Stanley, Goldman as triple A after being paid millions for these ratings? Ahmadinejad probably paid S&P for the credit rating.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    By the way Cramer is doing a really good piece on the SEC and the repeal of the uptick law in 2007 today on CNBC.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    Quote Originally Posted by longdawgview View Post
    By the way Cramer is doing a really good piece on the SEC and the repeal of the uptick law in 2007 today on CNBC.
    Cramer is a blathering pumper who wants the uptick rule back because he cannot recco short sales on his show. That crybaby whines like a wimp when the market averages go down, cause it hurts his t.v. ratings.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    Quote Originally Posted by GermDawg View Post
    Wallstreet and Bankers basically telling Fed/Congress/WH to hurry up and get their act together on this budget/debt issue.

    Their are a ton of economic reports coming out this week (housing starts, existing home sales, and leading economic indicators) along with a slew of company earning reports. Working in industry and seeing the upswing in production and demand I think the news this week will be good and it will swing back up.
    Any good news will be due solely to QE2 spending by the federal government of money they didn't have. It is just as if you raise your standard of living by borrowing on a credit card. It's fun while it lasts, but once you hit your credit limit, the party is over. This nation has hell to pay for the irresponsible actions by our federal government.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    Quote Originally Posted by nadB View Post
    Cramer is a blathering pumper who wants the uptick rule back because he cannot recco short sales on his show. That crybaby whines like a wimp when the market averages go down, cause it hurts his t.v. ratings.
    He is all about showmanship, the guy is funny though. I usually just watch the first five minutes but today show was one of his best. Unless you can monitor the market every minute ala day trader the uptick would bring some stability especially during extreme volatile swings like the flash crash. The proof is the charts. He was spot on about the instutionals using 3x leverage inverse etfs to manipulate the market and get around short margin rules.

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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    Quote Originally Posted by brtransplant View Post
    This nation has hell to pay for the irresponsible actions by our federal government.
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    Re: Warning signs from S&P?

    Quote Originally Posted by longdawgview View Post
    He is all about showmanship, the guy is funny though. I usually just watch the first five minutes but today show was one of his best. Unless you can monitor the market every minute ala day trader the uptick would bring some stability especially during extreme volatile swings like the flash crash. The proof is the charts. He was spot on about the instutionals using 3x leverage inverse etfs to manipulate the market and get around short margin rules.
    You hear a lot about the MMers. I have seen some anecdotal evidence there may be something to that conspiracy theory, but the most they can do is pick on one equity, one sector, perhaps, and only in a very short term frame.

    MMers can start movements, however, and that is the real calamity. Panic selling...and buying, for that matter...drives the market more than ANY organized effort can.

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