Florida State/Clemson to B12?

[Dwayne From Minden]

Get ready everyone. The four team playoff that is being touted will end up being the conference champion from each of the "four" 16 team superconferences. The decisions we will see from here forward will be to promote that goal. IMO, it will not matter if a conference makes sense regionally, but rather be based on ensuring that the schools in the largest markets that have a national following are included in some way. Realignment will be based on ensureing that the 64 largest markets are represented. As such, the failure of the LSU-s/LaTECH merger is a huge deterent to any opportunity we have to move our position forward to be included in the final shake-up, which I believe was realized by those who would much rather see all the universitys in Louisiana fight each other rather than challenge the "flagship." Keep divided and keep conquering. As the broken record continues to play - The only control of our destiny we will have to become an influence on the make up of those conference and have any prayer of being one of the institutions included will be by WINNING, which will lead to a larger fan base, which will lead to the beginning of a national following, which will lead to additional contributions to the athletic funds, which will lead to improved facilities, which will lead to attracting the best recruits, which will lead to getting and keeping the best coaching, which will lead to more WINNING. If you WIN enough, you can not be ignored!

No it won't...

It will more than likely the top 3 conference champions plus the highest at large with the caveat being that all have to be ranked in the top 6 or 8....

Semi finals will be with the bowls and final will be a stand alone game on or about the 7 of January....

BTW - the bigxii schools are fixing to sign away all their 1st and 2nd tier TV rights for a 13 year period (which will replace the current 6 year period) -

[Champ967]

BTW - the bigxii schools are fixing to sign away all their 1st and 2nd tier TV rights for a 13 year period (which will replace the current 6 year period) -

1st & 2nd tier = Broadcast networks & basic cable, right?

That means that each school can still retain the rights to games played on expanded cable, PPV, Gameplan, etc ...

Right?

[Dwayne From Minden]

1st & 2nd tier = Broadcast networks & basic cable, right?

That means that each school can still retain the rights to games played on expanded cable, PPV, Gameplan, etc ...

Right?

Not really...

Gameplan & expanded cable are typically "conference Tier 1 & Tier 2" monies -

The Longhorn Network, ASN, TigerVision etal are 3rd tier rights...

And I think the bigxii and SEC are the only conferences that don't include Tier 3 rights in thier packages -

Supposedly UT & OU are all in on the 13 year agreement...

[Champ967]

Not really...

Gameplan & expanded cable are typically "conference Tier 1 & Tier 2" monies -

The Longhorn Network, ASN, TigerVision etal are 3rd tier rights...

And I think the bigxii and SEC are the only conferences that don't include Tier 3 rights in thier packages -

Supposedly UT & OU are all in on the 13 year agreement...

Thanks for clarifying ...

So basically the institutions retain the rights to only those games/events that nobody else wants.

Is that about right?

[Dwayne From Minden]

So basically the institutions retain the rights to only those games/events that nobody else wants.

Is that about right?

Yep -

Which is why the LHN has basically been a bust in its first year - no one cares to pay that type of money for Texas vs Kansas one time a year in football and then Texas vs Texas Tech in mbb twice a year....

Diving, track, wbb, softball and ooc baseball games vs SLC teams just don't matter -

The BIG10 got it right with their network cause it included the ENTIRE conference and they show relevant games -

[olddog29]

The 1 vs. 4 and the 2 vs. 3 games in the "suggested" playoff system, not to mention the championship game are relevant and thus lucrative. Watch ESPN and look at how the conferences are right now jockeying for position in such a scenario and in some cases making the point that their conference champion will be ranked 1-4. There is only one chance that it does not work out in a manner in which the conference champion of the 4 - 16 team super conferences are placed 1 - 4. It is for one of these 4 superconferences to have more than one team in the top 4 slots. That will not happen with 4 - 16 team superconferences. The conference champions will be ranked 1 - 4, thus allowing 64 teams to control the vast majority of the pie. It further accomplishes the goal of creating something akin to another division II arena for the teams that are left out. The next tale-tale sign will be Notre Dame becoming a part of one of the 4 conferences. If they don't, then DFM may be right, but I just don't believe DFM has this one right. Follow the money!

[Woof!]

It is for one of these 4 superconferences to have more than one team in the top 4 slots. That will not happen with 4 - 16 team superconferences. The conference champions will be ranked 1 - 4, thus allowing 64 teams to control the vast majority of the pie.

Never say never. The top four teams are likely to be decided from either rankings or a selection committee which may not always select the teams that won their conference.

[Dwayne From Minden]

I will be right -

A NY cabbie with a huge stoogie and big rock on his pinkie told me....

The SEC and Bigxii will NOT agree to a 4 team play-off with straight conference champions and the PAC12 and BIG10 know this and have basically agreed in principle to the above scenario I have posted as part of the negoiations to get the semis off of campus sites and into the bowls

[Dwayne From Minden]

The control is already there - conference champions 1- 4 has nothing to do with this

The SEC wants the wildcard #4 (I really think want a selection commitee of the top 4 teams based on rank REGARDLESS of conference affiliation)

[hookdown]

The control is already there - conference champions 1- 4 has nothing to do with this

The SEC wants the wildcard #4 (I really think want a selection commitee of the top 4 teams based on rank REGARDLESS of conference affiliation)

That is all well and good until an outsider breaks into the top four, like Boise and TCU. Then the screaming will be so loud as to be deafening.

[okiealdawg]

A 4 team playoff for college football is a joke. It is still college athletics and every team in D1 should have at least a very slim chance at a NCAA championship.

Teams like Bama should join the NFL.

[Dwayne From Minden]

Boise and TCU are now one of the big boys...

There will be screaming, but all for naught and there is NO SUCH ANIMAL as an NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP in FBS football nor will there ever be

[olddog29]

DFM, if you are correct, then why have the SEC and Big XII agreed to create a bowl between their "champions" on New Year's Day. I beleive it is because they see the writting on the wall and they want to have a prominent national contest to put there #2 team into. More and more we are seeing the SEC mentality of regardless of which team from your conference is playing, you root for your own conference. When you have a #1 and #2 from the same conference playing one another, then you are having a detrimental impact on your ratings in the markets of the other three conference viewers. Heck, at this point, it would seem the world vs. the SEC and as such, a large national group tunes in hoping that someone will finally beat the SEC or in the case of 2 teams from the same conference playing in the national championship, tunes out because they have no dog in the hunt. Thus those conferences that control the most TV sets are the attractive element to the media groups. It benefits the media groups the most to have 4 - 16 team superconferences where the conference champions are ranked 1, 2, 3, and 4. That is where the money is.

I appreciate that you are very knowledgeable in regards to these matters. Unfortunately, I can not see where the scenario you propose will generate the maximum revenue for the various media giants who afterall, are able to buy what they want. We have unfortunately seen this be a significant contributing factor within our own quest to become C-USA. I say up front, Hey, maybe I'm wrong. However, please explain to me and us, how what you suggest would be more profitable.

[Dwayne From Minden]

You are reading WAY too much into the agreement -

The agreement states EVEN IF the teams are not chosen as part of the new system...

As I stated earlier TOP 3 conference champions PLUS one at large will be the model which is a FAR CRY from the top 4 conference champs that you are proposing...

SEC and bigxii did this to bring $$$ back to their traditonal New Year's Day game and make it a viable, relevant game before the new system is announced

Nothing more, nothing less -

[HogDawg]

You are reading WAY too much into the agreement -

The agreement states EVEN IF the teams are not chosen as part of the new system...

As I stated earlier TOP 3 conference champions PLUS one at large will be the model which is a FAR CRY from the top 4 conference champs that you are proposing...

SEC and bigxii did this to bring $$$ back to their traditonal New Year's Day game and make it a viable, relevant game before the new system is announced

Nothing more, nothing less -

Absolutely INCORRECT!

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