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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by champion110 View Post
    They are going to have to invest their football money into basketball. That means that they must remain at the top in football, which I think they can do.
    I think that's one of the reasons why the Big West and Big Sky won't take Boise State. Those conferences don't want Boise State to pump their football revenues into their other sports. It would put all the other schools in the conference at a competitive disadvantage to Boise State because they don't have access to that kind of money.
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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1L_dawg View Post
    one thing that Boise does NOT have to worry about is Peterson leaving for Arkansas. Oregon or USC might be the only jobs out there that peterson would take. I believe he has already turned down UCLA and maybe even overtures by Stanford.
    That was before he had to travel 3000 miles to the east coast to play. That's a huge difference. He'll be gone at the first good offer.

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by DONW View Post
    That was before he had to travel 3000 miles to the east coast to play. That's a huge difference. He'll be gone at the first good offer.
    How often do you think he's going to be flying to the East Coast? Y'all act like the poor guy's going to be on a plane to South Africa every weekend.

    He'll get to play half his conference games at home(where their already amazing home field advantage will be even greater). And some of those away games will be with SDSU, Houston, and SMU which is no worse than what he's been doing. Throw in an FCS home game, a one-for-one or two-for-one with a Pac-12 team, and a couple of one-for-ones with MWC/WAC/western CUSA teams and the travel isn't that bad. If you're just in it for football, being the conference outlier (or one of them) isn't the end of the world (even if it isn't ideal).

    They opened last season in Georgia and will open this season in Michigan. Four games consisting of some combination of UCF, USF, UConn, Louisville, Rutgers, or Temple isn't going to drive him off.

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    I wondered this myself back when the WAC let them bring their non-football sports back.

    The only thing I could come up with was that the WAC was just adding as many bodies as possible as insurance against having too few teams to even remain viable as a basketball conference. But the only problem with that, is that they still didn't add enough schools (at least, they haven't yet).
    My theory is that they knew if they didn't take BSU, someone else would. They would add to the conference more than they would subtract with regards to basketball, so the lack of football became not-a-dealbreaker.

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    I'd rather be in a conference with Idaho than non-football Boise State. Idaho was the best academic school in the WAC, and Boise State Truck Driving Academy was 2nd worst in the FBS only ahead of ULM. Idaho is a perfect fit for the Big Sky.
    Academics does not appear to be particularly high on the Big Sky's priorities. Having Boise State come to Bozeman for basketball is a bigger deal than have Idaho do the same, though (even though both are better than Southern Utah).

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by parialex View Post
    Academics does not appear to be particularly high on the Big Sky's priorities. Having Boise State come to Bozeman for basketball is a bigger deal than have Idaho do the same, though (even though both are better than Southern Utah).
    Academics does not appear to be particularly high on the Big East's priorities by taking Boise St.

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Academics does not appear to be particularly high on the Big East's priorities by taking Boise St.
    It hurts because it's true. They stick out more than Marshall did in C*USA. It's one of the reasons I'm less enthusiastic about their inclusion. All I can say to myself in defense is "Half-members! Half-members!!" Which is, admittedly, kind of lame.

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Academics does not appear to be particularly high on the Big East's priorities by taking Boise St.
    Boise State is not a full member of the Big East. They are a football-only member, which means they will never play any of the private non-football schools. The Big East took Boise State to try to save their AQ status. That's it.

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by parialex View Post
    It hurts because it's true. They stick out more than Marshall did in C*USA. It's one of the reasons I'm less enthusiastic about their inclusion. All I can say to myself in defense is "Half-members! Half-members!!" Which is, admittedly, kind of lame.
    It's not close to half. Boise State is a 1/24 member of the Big East.

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by parialex View Post
    My theory is that they knew if they didn't take BSU, someone else would. They would add to the conference more than they would subtract with regards to basketball, so the lack of football became not-a-dealbreaker.
    Benson and everybody on BBB had known for a while that for the WAC to survive, it had to become a non-football league. Boise State fell into Benson's lap. For the football schools wanting out of the WAC, they needed to provide a home for Boise State's non-football sports to open up a spot in the Mountain West to keep the dominoes falling. If the WAC hadn't invited Boise State back, then Utah State and SJSU certainly wouldn't have landed in the MWC.

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by parialex View Post
    My theory is that they knew if they didn't take BSU, someone else would. They would add to the conference more than they would subtract with regards to basketball, so the lack of football became not-a-dealbreaker.
    They may have lately been in the top half in rpi or whatever, but they were taking away in the sense that they were another mouth to feed and another trip to Idaho to take.

    It was a bad move in every possible way except for gearing up for a move to a non-football conference.

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    Benson and everybody on BBB had known for a while that for the WAC to survive, it had to become a non-football league. Boise State fell into Benson's lap.
    Benson then killed the WAC by taking TxSt and UTA with him to the Belt. And then twisted the knife by failing to secure FBO invites for NMSU and Idaho.

    At what point do we consider the possibility than Benson's actions are better described not in terms of incompetence, but malice?

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Petersen could have already been the coach at Tennessee or Florida if he had wanted an SEC job. He is a west coast guy. I think he holds out until USC or Oregon becomes open, then we might see him jump ship.

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    Re: Boise State having second thoughts on Big East move?

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
    KBOI-TV Boise is confirming that the letter has been sent to the MWC office and all MWC schools as required.

    News still being gathered and no announcement has been made by Boise State.
    Here is the sequence of events:

    http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday....tion#storyjump

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