Super Conference Thread

[domangue]

To those of you who don't remember, when Boise was mulling the decision to go to the Big East last year, there was quite a bit of speculation in the media about the chatter of a Big East - CUSA - MWC three way merger. In some ways, it seems that this intial concept is what wound up triggering the MWC-CUSA merger that never actually materialized.

Now that we're on the "inside" and we know definitively which schools are involved, revisit the super conference idea from last year.

Here would be the workings of a 34-team conference.

"BIG" EAST

UConn
Rutgers
Central Florida
South Florida
Louisville
Cincinnati
East Carolina
Marshall
Florida International
Temple

CENTRAL

UAB
Memphis
Southern Mississippi
Louisiana Tech
Tulane
Rice
Houston
SMU

MOUNTAIN

Tulsa
UTSA
UTEP
Colorado State
Utah State
Air Force
New Mexico
North Texas

WEST

Hawaii
Fresno State
San Jose State
San Diego State
Nevada
UNLV
Boise State
Wyoming


-- Note that Navy is not included in Big East, nor Charlotte and ODU either. There might be more stipulations for those deals.



Market Power? This lineup would feature 5 teams that have participated in a total SEVEN BCS BOWLS

**UL (1), UC (2), UConn (1), Hawaii (1), Boise St. (2)

The league would have FOUR of the TOP TEN DMA's in the U.S.-- and something like 18 of the top 50.

[TechAlum05]

That's assuming the Big XII, SEC, and ACC doesn't pick up teams like Cincinnati, Louisville, UCONN, and Memphis.

[BuzDawg73]

Don't see how you can not include UNCC and ODU. They are part of CUSA. Probably not a problem because I don't see this happening without more BE losses so there would be room for everybody.

[olddog29]

I think domangue is on to something here but think it will be 32. UConn and Rutgers could end up ACC. Actually, depending on what FSU does, it could be USF, UCF, and UL too, but these teams could be replaced on the East side. Only other recommendation is that the sub-conferences are named after their primary times zones. Eastern, Central, Mountain, and Pacific.

[Dawg06]

I don't see how this mega-conference could work, but this it what it would look like.

West
Hawai'i
San Diego State
San Jose State
Fresno State
Boise State
Nevada
UNLV
Utah State
Wyoming

Mountain
Colorado State
Air Force
New Mexico
UTEP
UTSA
Houston
Rice
Baylor
TCU

Central
SMU
North Texas
Tulsa
Kansas State
Iowa State
LA Tech
Tulane
Southern Miss
Memphis

East
UAB
UCF
FIU
East Carolina
Charlotte
Marshall
Old Dominion
Navy
Temple


I think it's significantly more likely that the Big XII becomes the new Big East.

[HogDawg]

It seems to be a given that the Top 4 conferences (SEC, Big XII, Big 10 & PAC 12) will go to 16 members each to form a 64-team premier league. With that in mind, don't you need to include the leftover ACC teams in your mix of 32 Super Conference teams?

I see the 32-team Super Conference including the leftover members of the ACC, the Big East, the MWC and CUSA. The question is, after the SEC (still need 2), the Big XII (6), the Big 10 (3) and the PAC 12 (4) pick their final 15 schools (including Notre Dame) to get to 16 each, who'll be left in the ACC, BE, MWC and CUSA to make up these 32 teams?

Remember, the Top 4 Conferences will pick 14 schools from this list of 47 (plus, someone will pick up Notre Dame):

CUSA = 14 members
MWC = 10
Big East = 11
ACC = 12
Total = 47 schools
Minus <14 schools>

That leaves 33 schools for our Super Conference, including whatever is left of the ACC & Big East. If they limit it to 32 schools, who gets left out?





HD

[olddog29]

Thank you for the leg work Dawg06. If you would - taking your work here, what would the super 32 look like similar to that which Domangue has suggested in the "super conference" thread?

[Dawg06]

Thank you for the leg work Dawg06. If you would - taking your work here, what would the super 32 look like similar to that which Domangue has suggested in the "super conference" thread?

There would be 36 teams left out, not 32.

[Dawg06]

It seems to be a given that the Top 4 conferences (SEC, Big XII, Big 10 & PAC 12) will go to 16 members each to form a 64-team Super League. With that in mind, don't you need to include the leftover ACC teams in your mix of 32 Super Conference teams?

I see the 32-team Super conference including the remaining member of the ACC, the Big East, the MWC and CUSA. The question is, after the SEC (still need 2), the Big XII (6), the Big 10 (3) and the PAC 12 (4) pick their final 15 schools to get to 16 each, who'll be left in the ACC, BE, MWC and CUSA to make up these 32 teams?







HD

The Big XII will not be one of the 4 super-conferences.

This is how I think it will eventually shake out.

Pac-16 West
Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Cal
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Pac-16 East
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Colorado
Texas
Texas Tech
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State

Big Ten West
Nebraska
Kansas
Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Illinois
Big Ten East
Notre Dame
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Penn State
Rutgers

SEC West
Texas A&M
Arkansas
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Alabama
Auburn
Vanderbilt
SEC East
Kentucky
Virginia Tech
Tennessee
Georgia
South Carolina
Clemson
Florida
Florida State

ACC North
Boston College
Syracuse
UConn
Pittsburgh
West Virginia
Maryland
Cincinnati
Louisville
ACC South
Virginia
North Carolina
NC State
Duke
Wake Forest
Georgia Tech
South Florida
Miami

[Champ967]

The Big XII will not be one of the 4 super-conferences.

This is how I think it will eventually shake out.

Mizzu to SEC: You're really nice, but it's just not working out.

[Dawg06]

Mizzu to SEC: You're really nice, but it's just not working out.

Yep. Mizzou never wanted in the SEC in the first place. If and when the Big Ten expands, Mizzou will be part of it.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

PERFECT 10: UT’S DODDS DOESN’T SEE NEED TO EXPAND BIG 12

[olddog29]

Thanks Dawg06, I see what you are saying, and it works well. Unfortunately as this makes sense, we will never see it unless the media forces it. You would think that the "well-educated" Doctorates otherwise known as University Presidents would have enough common sense to see the advantages this arrangement would make. Of course, being that it is all about money - what difference does logic make?