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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Free trade would be very globalist of him. Some of his base would be disappointed.

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    IF Canada and the EU are really charging the types of tariffs Trump says they are, he is doing the right thing in protecting some American businesses from imports from their countries. If these figures are true, then Trump is the only real free trade guy in the room, and the only real "globalist" as well...because it's not globalism when 6 gang up on 1.

    It would be nice to see a real piece of journalism instead of just opinion pieces from both tribes describing the real tariff situation. News is dead.
    100% agreement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Free trade would be very globalist of him. Some of his base would be disappointed.
    Trump's base is totally happy with him.

    And least you forget Nov. 2016, I would believe these poll numbers vs. any liberal media spin numbers just to make them feel better. Oh, and the liberal and socialist media nor the DNC still hasn't learned a single thing yet.

    TRUMP APPROVAL TOPS OBAMA AND REAGAN AT SAME TIME IN PRESIDENCY...

    by Jim Hoft June 9, 2018


    According to the latest FOX News poll President Donald Trump has a better rating than Presidents Obama and Reagan at the same point in their presidencies.

    President Trump’s approval is now at 45%.
    And that is with 90% negative coverage from the far left mainstream media.


    President Trump – 45%
    President Obama – 44%
    President Reagan – 44%

    On June 9, 2010 Barack Obama’s approval number was 46% on the Rasmussen poll.
    President Trump’s approval number is at 47% according to Rasmussen today.



    TRUMP APPROVAL RATING Better than Obama and Reagan at Same Point in their Presidencies

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    IF Canada and the EU are really charging the types of tariffs Trump says they are, he is doing the right thing in protecting some American businesses from imports from their countries. If these figures are true, then Trump is the only real free trade guy in the room, and the only real "globalist" as well...because it's not globalism when 6 gang up on 1.

    It would be nice to see a real piece of journalism instead of just opinion pieces from both tribes describing the real tariff situation. News is dead.
    We subsidize domestic dairy so heavily that they dump tens of millions of overproduced milk every year.

    We also protect domestic agriculture by hitting import tobacco with 350% tariff and import peanuts at 150%. Similarly we put a 100% tariff on European chocolates and cheeses.

    We protect US shoemakers with a 40 to 50% tariff on important shoes and we also use tariffs on other import clothing.

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Free trade would be very globalist of him. Some of his base would be disappointed.
    Trump has made it clear on many occasions that these tariffs are designed to make others play fair. The tariffs are not an end all to themselves, because he has stated many times that his goal is to have ALL unfair trade practices removed (protectionist tariffs by Canada and the EU, quotas by the EU, etc.). It appears that these tariffs, designed to protect American businesses from unfair trade practices are nothing more than retaliatory tariffs designed to bring the parties to the table to discuss REAL free trade.

    For that, CNN spouts that Trump is "starting a trade war".

    When Canada says they will impose retaliatory tariffs on us because of Trump's tariffs because "they have to protect Canadian businesses" (gee, does that sound familiar?), the tribal news outlets and those inflicted with TDS cheer him on and get all giddy thinking he has just taught Trump a lesson on the world stage. They are so anti-Trump, they are anti-America. It doesn't matter to them that OUR businesses are being hurt by others' tariffs or that OUR middle class is shrinking because our manufacturing jobs are going away.

    I have stated before that I believe Trump is using the wrong statistic when he says he wants to level out the trade deficit. I want us to have a trade deficit with every other country on the planet, because I want America to be so rich and successful that we have to import more to satisfy our ability to consume. I don't want to have a deficit because of unfair trade practices.

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow View Post
    Trump has made it clear on many occasions that these tariffs are designed to make others play fair. The tariffs are not an end all to themselves, because he has stated many times that his goal is to have ALL unfair trade practices removed (protectionist tariffs by Canada and the EU, quotas by the EU, etc.). It appears that these tariffs, designed to protect American businesses from unfair trade practices are nothing more than retaliatory tariffs designed to bring the parties to the table to discuss REAL free trade.

    For that, CNN spouts that Trump is "starting a trade war".

    When Canada says they will impose retaliatory tariffs on us because of Trump's tariffs because "they have to protect Canadian businesses" (gee, does that sound familiar?), the tribal news outlets and those inflicted with TDS cheer him on and get all giddy thinking he has just taught Trump a lesson on the world stage. They are so anti-Trump, they are anti-America. It doesn't matter to them that OUR businesses are being hurt by others' tariffs or that OUR middle class is shrinking because our manufacturing jobs are going away.

    I have stated before that I believe Trump is using the wrong statistic when he says he wants to level out the trade deficit. I want us to have a trade deficit with every other country on the planet, because I want America to be so rich and successful that we have to import more to satisfy our ability to consume. I don't want to have a deficit because of unfair trade practices.
    I don’t know if you just woke up and started paying attention to international trade the day Trump ran for office, but our tariffs on imports go way back. Agricultural tariffs have always been the stickiest because they are not just about jobs but they are also about food security. Well, at least you could make that case for dairy, not so much for tobacco.

    https://www.usitc.gov/tariff_affairs..._databases.htm

    Don’t kid yourself. We are not about to do away with subsidies and agricultural tariffs. We are still interested in protecting American workers from paying back industries that throw their support behind our politicians.

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    We subsidize domestic dairy so heavily that they dump tens of millions of overproduced milk every year.

    We also protect domestic agriculture by hitting import tobacco with 350% tariff and import peanuts at 150%. Similarly we put a 100% tariff on European chocolates and cheeses.

    We protect US shoemakers with a 40 to 50% tariff on important shoes and we also use tariffs on other import clothing.
    That was supposed to be “tens of millions of gallons” and “imported” rather than “important.”

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    I don’t know if you just woke up and started paying attention to international trade the day Trump ran for office, but our tariffs on imports go way back. Agricultural tariffs have always been the stickiest because they are not just about jobs but they are also about food security. Well, at least you could make that case for dairy, not so much for tobacco.

    https://www.usitc.gov/tariff_affairs..._databases.htm

    Don’t kid yourself. We are not about to do away with subsidies and agricultural tariffs. We are still interested in protecting American workers from paying back industries that throw their support behind our politicians.
    Actually, I did not pay much attention to it at all. I did know that we subsidized unprofitable businesses (like windmills, solar panels and corn for ethanol), but I will readily admit I have not studied the entire trade policy of the US or anyone else. I have no plans to do that in the future either, but then again, I have no plans to check the equations the Federal Reserve used to decide if and when to raise interest rates. I am going to assume the economists analyzing the issues know what they are doing and hope they get it right (understanding that they have not always done so).

    I think I would support a "labor rate adjustment" tariff, but I have heard nothing about anything like that in any of these discussions. Sometimes, if a company moves you from a low cost state to a high cost state, they give you a cost of living adjustment so you kind of break even in your new market...seems like manufactured products should have that kind of adjustment as well. I didn't think it at the time, but old Ross Perot was right about that giant sucking sound once you started moving production from the US to low wage nations.

    Now that I've gone to that web site, however, I am incensed that there is a 6.8% tariff on "live asses".

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    Free traders believe that those jobs that can be done for cheaper elsewhere should go elsewhere, even at the expense of today’s jobs. That is how “creative destruction” and “gains from trade” occur in an interdependent capitalist economy.

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    Free trade would be very globalist of him. Some of his base would be disappointed.
    We want FAIR trade.

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    We want FAIR trade.
    Just common sense regulations right?

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    Just common sense regulations right?
    Depends.

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Depends.
    On what Hannity decides?

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Depends.
    It depends on whose common sense we're leaning on. Certainly rules out any and all libtards.

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    Re: CNN Ratings Hit 20-Year Low...

    Quote Originally Posted by Guisslapp View Post
    On what Hannity decides?
    On what Chris Mathews or Maddow tells you Guisslapp?

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