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    Another Round of Realignment?

    Very well could happen....


    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t13_a4



    The next round goes to 16 for the big guys?

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    Re: Another Round of Realignment?

    The article reads like a true aq discussion. The gulf between the haves and have-nots was NOT created by tradition and school based decisions. I hate to inform them that the gulf was created with the bcs aq status. Period........

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    Re: Another Round of Realignment?

    hate to go all AQ on you...but you asked for it.

    top 25 last year:

    2011
    1. Alabama
    2. LSU
    3. Oklahoma State
    4. Oregon
    5. Arkansas
    6. USC
    7. Stanford
    8. Boise State
    9. South Carolina
    10. Wisconsin
    11. Michigan State
    12. Michigan
    13. Baylor
    14. TCU
    15. Kansas State
    16. Oklahoma
    17. West Virginia
    18. Houston
    19. Georgia
    20. Southern Miss
    21. Virginia Tech
    22. Clemson
    23. Florida State
    24. Nebraska
    25. Cincinnati

    non-AQ teams: Boise, TCU, Houston, and USM


    2000
    1. Oklahoma
    2. Miami (Fla.)
    3. Washington
    4. Oregon State
    5. Florida St.
    6. Virginia Tech
    7. Oregon
    8. Nebraska
    9. Kansas State
    10. Florida
    11. Michigan
    12. Texas
    13. Purdue
    14. Colorado St.
    15. Notre Dame
    16. Clemson
    17. Georgia Tech
    18. Auburn
    19. South Carolina
    20. Georgia
    21. TCU
    22. LSU
    23. Wisconsin
    24. Mississippi St.
    25. Iowa State

    non-AQ teams: Colorado St, TCU

    1990
    1. Colorado
    2. Georgia Tech
    3. Miami (Fla.)
    4. Florida State
    5. Washington
    6. Notre Dame
    7. Michigan
    8. Tennessee
    9. Clemson
    10. Houston
    11. Penn State
    12. Texas
    13. Florida
    14. Louisville
    15. Texas A&M
    16. Michigan State
    17. Oklahoma
    18. Iowa
    19. Auburn
    20. USC
    21. Mississippi
    22. Brigham Young
    23. Virginia
    24. Nebraska
    25. Illinois

    "mid major" teams: FSU (Metro), Louisville (Metro), BYU

    1980
    1. Georgia
    2. Pittsburgh
    3. Oklahoma
    4. Michigan
    5. Florida State
    6. Alabama
    7. Nebraska
    8. Penn State
    9. Notre Dame
    10. North Carolina
    11. USC
    12. Brigham Young
    13. UCLA
    14. Baylor
    15. Ohio State
    16. Washington
    17. Purdue
    18. Miami (Fla.)
    19. Mississippi State
    20. SMU

    "mid major" teams: FSU (Metro), BYU

    1970
    1. Nebraska
    2. Notre Dame
    3. Texas
    4. Tennessee
    5. Ohio State
    6. Arizona State
    7. Louisiana State
    8. Stanford
    9. Michigan
    10. Auburn
    11. Arkansas
    12. Toledo
    13. Georgia Tech
    14. Dartmouth
    15. USC
    16. Air Force
    17. Tulane
    18. Penn State
    19. Houston
    20. Oklahoma
    (tie) Mississippi

    "mid major" teams: Toledo, Dartmouth, AFA, Tulane

    1960
    1. Minnesota
    2. Mississippi
    3. Iowa
    4. Navy
    5. Missouri
    6. Washington
    7. Arkansas
    8. Ohio State
    9. Alabama
    10. Duke
    11. Kansas
    12. Baylor
    13. Auburn
    14. Yale
    15. Michigan State
    16. Penn State
    17. New Mexico St.
    18. Florida
    19. Syracuse
    (tie) Purdue

    "mid majors": Yale, New Mex St

    1950
    1. Oklahoma
    2. Army
    3. Texas
    4. Tennessee
    5. California
    6. Princeton
    7. Kentucky
    8. Michigan State
    9. Michigan
    10. Clemson
    11. Washington
    12. Wyoming
    13. Illinois
    14. Ohio State
    15. Miami (Fla.)
    16. Alabama
    17. Nebraska
    18. Washington & Lee
    19. Tulsa
    20. Tulane

    "mid majors": Princeton, Wyoming, Wash & Lee, Tulsa



    so pretty much since the 50's we have has a couple of non-AQ type teams ranked, but most of them were not consistently ranked year in and year out. the consistently ranked teams got the AQ cards punched.

    (bring the red dots...)

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    Re: Another Round of Realignment?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrassyNoleHitman View Post
    hate to go all AQ on you...but you asked for it.

    top 25 last year:

    2011
    1. Alabama
    2. LSU
    3. Oklahoma State
    4. Oregon
    5. Arkansas
    6. USC
    7. Stanford
    8. Boise State
    9. South Carolina
    10. Wisconsin
    11. Michigan State
    12. Michigan
    13. Baylor
    14. TCU
    15. Kansas State
    16. Oklahoma
    17. West Virginia
    18. Houston
    19. Georgia
    20. Southern Miss
    21. Virginia Tech
    22. Clemson
    23. Florida State
    24. Nebraska
    25. Cincinnati

    non-AQ teams: Boise, TCU, Houston, and USM


    2000
    1. Oklahoma
    2. Miami (Fla.)
    3. Washington
    4. Oregon State
    5. Florida St.
    6. Virginia Tech
    7. Oregon
    8. Nebraska
    9. Kansas State
    10. Florida
    11. Michigan
    12. Texas
    13. Purdue
    14. Colorado St.
    15. Notre Dame
    16. Clemson
    17. Georgia Tech
    18. Auburn
    19. South Carolina
    20. Georgia
    21. TCU
    22. LSU
    23. Wisconsin
    24. Mississippi St.
    25. Iowa State

    non-AQ teams: Colorado St, TCU

    1990
    1. Colorado
    2. Georgia Tech
    3. Miami (Fla.)
    4. Florida State
    5. Washington
    6. Notre Dame
    7. Michigan
    8. Tennessee
    9. Clemson
    10. Houston
    11. Penn State
    12. Texas
    13. Florida
    14. Louisville
    15. Texas A&M
    16. Michigan State
    17. Oklahoma
    18. Iowa
    19. Auburn
    20. USC
    21. Mississippi
    22. Brigham Young
    23. Virginia
    24. Nebraska
    25. Illinois

    "mid major" teams: FSU (Metro), Louisville (Metro), BYU

    1980
    1. Georgia
    2. Pittsburgh
    3. Oklahoma
    4. Michigan
    5. Florida State
    6. Alabama
    7. Nebraska
    8. Penn State
    9. Notre Dame
    10. North Carolina
    11. USC
    12. Brigham Young
    13. UCLA
    14. Baylor
    15. Ohio State
    16. Washington
    17. Purdue
    18. Miami (Fla.)
    19. Mississippi State
    20. SMU

    "mid major" teams: FSU (Metro), BYU

    1970
    1. Nebraska
    2. Notre Dame
    3. Texas
    4. Tennessee
    5. Ohio State
    6. Arizona State
    7. Louisiana State
    8. Stanford
    9. Michigan
    10. Auburn
    11. Arkansas
    12. Toledo
    13. Georgia Tech
    14. Dartmouth
    15. USC
    16. Air Force
    17. Tulane
    18. Penn State
    19. Houston
    20. Oklahoma
    (tie) Mississippi

    "mid major" teams: Toledo, Dartmouth, AFA, Tulane

    1960
    1. Minnesota
    2. Mississippi
    3. Iowa
    4. Navy
    5. Missouri
    6. Washington
    7. Arkansas
    8. Ohio State
    9. Alabama
    10. Duke
    11. Kansas
    12. Baylor
    13. Auburn
    14. Yale
    15. Michigan State
    16. Penn State
    17. New Mexico St.
    18. Florida
    19. Syracuse
    (tie) Purdue

    "mid majors": Yale, New Mex St

    1950
    1. Oklahoma
    2. Army
    3. Texas
    4. Tennessee
    5. California
    6. Princeton
    7. Kentucky
    8. Michigan State
    9. Michigan
    10. Clemson
    11. Washington
    12. Wyoming
    13. Illinois
    14. Ohio State
    15. Miami (Fla.)
    16. Alabama
    17. Nebraska
    18. Washington & Lee
    19. Tulsa
    20. Tulane

    "mid majors": Princeton, Wyoming, Wash & Lee, Tulsa



    so pretty much since the 50's we have has a couple of non-AQ type teams ranked, but most of them were not consistently ranked year in and year out. the consistently ranked teams got the AQ cards punched.

    (bring the red dots...)
    But you are defining "mid-major" as non-aq, when there was no aq. One could easily make the argument that the rich got into aq conferences and kept getting richer. Everyone was Division One at that time that you list as mid-majors. They were on the same playing field. In other words, if Baylor (or take any aq team) would not have made it into an aq conference, they would be in your stats for today's teams that are consistent top 25 non-aq. The argument isn't valid. No red dots, though. LOL

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    Re: Another Round of Realignment?

    In theory, all BCS teams are equal, but we know that some are more equal than others, and then there are a few that are most equal...


    The key statement from GNH is this:

    "the consistently ranked teams got the AQ cards punched."

    This is where we need to take care of business. If we do, everything else will fall into place.

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    Re: Another Round of Realignment?

    If people like Spurrier get their way and the big schools get permission to pay athletes $3,000 to $4,000 per year, the gulf will become uncrossable, IMO.
    Good old Memorial Gym

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    Re: Another Round of Realignment?

    That's why we must make our move right freaking now!!
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    Re: Another Round of Realignment?

    Quote Originally Posted by hookdown View Post
    In theory, all BCS teams are equal, but we know that some are more equal than others, and then there are a few that are most equal...


    The key statement from GNH is this:

    "the consistently ranked teams got the AQ cards punched."

    This is where we need to take care of business. If we do, everything else will fall into place.
    I agree with most of this. The one thing that happened in the recent reallignment, though, is schools that were not consistent top 25 got their aq cards punched. I do believe it was that way at the beginning of aq status, though, which is why the stats that Reality posted don't prove that the current haves and have nots were not created by aq. aq status gave them BIG money. Some of them had it already through winning and fan base, but aq tipped it to the point that it was/is hard to catch up. Before aq, it was possible.

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    Re: Another Round of Realignment?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrassyNoleHitman View Post
    hate to go all AQ on you...but you asked for it.

    top 25 last year:

    2011
    1. Alabama
    2. LSU
    3. Oklahoma State
    4. Oregon
    5. Arkansas
    6. USC
    7. Stanford
    8. Boise State
    9. South Carolina
    10. Wisconsin
    11. Michigan State
    12. Michigan
    13. Baylor
    14. TCU
    15. Kansas State
    16. Oklahoma
    17. West Virginia
    18. Houston
    19. Georgia
    20. Southern Miss
    21. Virginia Tech
    22. Clemson
    23. Florida State
    24. Nebraska
    25. Cincinnati

    non-AQ teams: Boise, TCU, Houston, and USM


    2000
    1. Oklahoma
    2. Miami (Fla.)
    3. Washington
    4. Oregon State
    5. Florida St.
    6. Virginia Tech
    7. Oregon
    8. Nebraska
    9. Kansas State
    10. Florida
    11. Michigan
    12. Texas
    13. Purdue
    14. Colorado St.
    15. Notre Dame
    16. Clemson
    17. Georgia Tech
    18. Auburn
    19. South Carolina
    20. Georgia
    21. TCU
    22. LSU
    23. Wisconsin
    24. Mississippi St.
    25. Iowa State

    non-AQ teams: Colorado St, TCU

    1990
    1. Colorado
    2. Georgia Tech
    3. Miami (Fla.)
    4. Florida State
    5. Washington
    6. Notre Dame
    7. Michigan
    8. Tennessee
    9. Clemson
    10. Houston
    11. Penn State
    12. Texas
    13. Florida
    14. Louisville
    15. Texas A&M
    16. Michigan State
    17. Oklahoma
    18. Iowa
    19. Auburn
    20. USC
    21. Mississippi
    22. Brigham Young
    23. Virginia
    24. Nebraska
    25. Illinois

    "mid major" teams: FSU (Metro), Louisville (Metro), BYU

    1980
    1. Georgia
    2. Pittsburgh
    3. Oklahoma
    4. Michigan
    5. Florida State
    6. Alabama
    7. Nebraska
    8. Penn State
    9. Notre Dame
    10. North Carolina
    11. USC
    12. Brigham Young
    13. UCLA
    14. Baylor
    15. Ohio State
    16. Washington
    17. Purdue
    18. Miami (Fla.)
    19. Mississippi State
    20. SMU

    "mid major" teams: FSU (Metro), BYU

    1970
    1. Nebraska
    2. Notre Dame
    3. Texas
    4. Tennessee
    5. Ohio State
    6. Arizona State
    7. Louisiana State
    8. Stanford
    9. Michigan
    10. Auburn
    11. Arkansas
    12. Toledo
    13. Georgia Tech
    14. Dartmouth
    15. USC
    16. Air Force
    17. Tulane
    18. Penn State
    19. Houston
    20. Oklahoma
    (tie) Mississippi

    "mid major" teams: Toledo, Dartmouth, AFA, Tulane

    1960
    1. Minnesota
    2. Mississippi
    3. Iowa
    4. Navy
    5. Missouri
    6. Washington
    7. Arkansas
    8. Ohio State
    9. Alabama
    10. Duke
    11. Kansas
    12. Baylor
    13. Auburn
    14. Yale
    15. Michigan State
    16. Penn State
    17. New Mexico St.
    18. Florida
    19. Syracuse
    (tie) Purdue

    "mid majors": Yale, New Mex St

    1950
    1. Oklahoma
    2. Army
    3. Texas
    4. Tennessee
    5. California
    6. Princeton
    7. Kentucky
    8. Michigan State
    9. Michigan
    10. Clemson
    11. Washington
    12. Wyoming
    13. Illinois
    14. Ohio State
    15. Miami (Fla.)
    16. Alabama
    17. Nebraska
    18. Washington & Lee
    19. Tulsa
    20. Tulane

    "mid majors": Princeton, Wyoming, Wash & Lee, Tulsa



    so pretty much since the 50's we have has a couple of non-AQ type teams ranked, but most of them were not consistently ranked year in and year out. the consistently ranked teams got the AQ cards punched.

    (bring the red dots...)
    You're only taking 7 years out of 62 seasons. If you had used the years 1989-1994, LSU wouln't have made it. They had 6 losing seasons in a row.

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