Obama trying to limit military voting

[TYLERTECHSAS]

The Navy Seals sure don't want to see Obama re-elected and neither does most of the American military per other articles written this year. This is why Obama is trying to limit their vote. The military has been conservative and anti-Dem ever since Jimmy Carter. And they sure are anti-Obama/Socialist party now. Our Military is fighting to defend and save our Republic not our Socialist Union of States. And believe me they know and are taught the difference (at least when I was in the early 70's).

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/03/bo...r.html?_r=2&hp

[philgarris]

It's because the people in power and most of the citizens in this country are too weak to have the discussions necessary to ensure the United States isn't just a fading memory.

The Ohioan military members already had those days. The lazy and irresponsible civilians didn't. That was fine. Anyone who thinks otherwise is looking to buy votes.

what ever it takes to get the military the extra days is all that matters, if that is buying votes then it is buying votes for both sides, if I am wrong and only democrats can vote then please enlighten me otherwise it is a mute point.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

what ever it takes to get the military the extra days is all that matters, if that is buying votes then it is buying votes for both sides, if I am wrong and only democrats can vote then please enlighten me otherwise it is a mute point.

Not totally wrong Phil but IMHO still blinded by wanting this Chicago thug politico, Obama to be re-elected. The Military's vote should count period. Everyone else in the US has plenty of time to vote. And Obama wants the illegal alien vote to count as much as our American soldiers vote. These are Chicago like tactics that are pure evil (theft) in my mind.

[philgarris]

Not totally wrong Phil but IMHO still blinded by wanting this Chicago thug politico, Obama to be re-elected. The Military's vote should count period. Everyone else in the US has plenty of time to vote. And Obama wants the illegal alien vote to count as much as our American soldiers vote. These are Chicago like tactics that are pure evil (theft) in my mind.

I need you to clarify this, so what I understand that you are saying is that Obama is wanting illegal aliens to vote? These are people that don't have citizenship or won't have citizenship when the elections roll around in November? I am not disputing this I just want to make sure that we are on the same page.
Obama has said this and where, I want to see this please because that would be completely underhanded for him to say that he wants the illegal aliens to be able to vote!!

[philgarris]

Not totally wrong Phil but IMHO still blinded by wanting this Chicago thug politico, Obama to be re-elected. The Military's vote should count period. Everyone else in the US has plenty of time to vote. And Obama wants the illegal alien vote to count as much as our American soldiers vote. These are Chicago like tactics that are pure evil (theft) in my mind.

I am for the military having the time they need, in fact I feel that all military votes should count and again what ever it takes we need to do.

[JuBru]

what ever it takes to get the military the extra days is all that matters, if that is buying votes then it is buying votes for both sides, if I am wrong and only democrats can vote then please enlighten me otherwise it is a mute point.

I am for the military having the time they need, in fact I feel that all military votes should count and again what ever it takes we need to do.

Do you not understand that the Ohioan military members already had the extra time? It was the lazy and irresponsible citizens that didn't have extra time until the court wrongly said they should have it as a matter of "fairness"?

And did you know Obama has fought during both his election and the mid-term election to not count votes of numerous military members because they didn't have the time to fill out the ballot on his schedule?

I need you to clarify this, so what I understand that you are saying is that Obama is wanting illegal aliens to vote? These are people that don't have citizenship or won't have citizenship when the elections roll around in November? I am not disputing this I just want to make sure that we are on the same page.
Obama has said this and where, I want to see this please because that would be completely underhanded for him to say that he wants the illegal aliens to be able to vote!!

Obama wasn't fighting to limit Ohioan military vote. They still get the extra time. He was trying to make it where there is more time to fill out false ballots for dead citizens, illegals, etc. again.

[maverick]

Do you not understand that the Ohioan military members already had the extra time? It was the lazy and irresponsible citizens that didn't have extra time until the court wrongly said they should have it as a matter of "fairness"?

And did you know Obama has fought during both his election and the mid-term election to not count votes of numerous military members because they didn't have the time to fill out the ballot on his schedule?

Obama wasn't fighting to limit Ohioan military vote. They still get the extra time. He was trying to make it where there is more time to fill out false ballots for dead citizens, illegals, etc. again.

There also may be upstanding citizens with difficult work schedules, transportation issues, childcare schedules...all sorts of conflicts. Giving other citizens extra time does NOTHING to limit military voting, so I see no problem with it. Give everybody more time!

[philgarris]

Do you not understand that the Ohioan military members already had the extra time? It was the lazy and irresponsible citizens that didn't have extra time until the court wrongly said they should have it as a matter of "fairness"?

And did you know Obama has fought during both his election and the mid-term election to not count votes of numerous military members because they didn't have the time to fill out the ballot on his schedule?

Obama wasn't fighting to limit Ohioan military vote. They still get the extra time. He was trying to make it where there is more time to fill out false ballots for dead citizens, illegals, etc. again.

I am sorry for the confusion but those questions were for Tyler.
thanks

[TYLERTECHSAS]

I need you to clarify this, so what I understand that you are saying is that Obama is wanting illegal aliens to vote? These are people that don't have citizenship or won't have citizenship when the elections roll around in November? I am not disputing this I just want to make sure that we are on the same page.
Obama has said this and where, I want to see this please because that would be completely underhanded for him to say that he wants the illegal aliens to be able to vote!!

See JuBru's post. And yes it's also been posted on here numerous times. Heck, google it.

[philgarris]

See JuBru's post. And yes it's also been posted on here numerous times. Heck, google it.

I did google it and saw no where that he said that but I saw where people are putting that out there.
I see where people in Arizona are up in arms over identification issues and I completely understand that issue, people should provide identification.

Everyone that is a legal citizen should have a ID card at the very least with a picture on it. I will say this though it is getting stupid to even renew your DL but I am kewl with it because it is the rule. I had to send to Arkansas (not a damn word it was El Dorado so that is practically louisiana and only born there) to get my birth certificate sent before I could renew

[JuBru]

There also may be upstanding citizens with difficult work schedules, transportation issues, childcare schedules...all sorts of conflicts. Giving other citizens extra time does NOTHING to limit military voting, so I see no problem with it. Give everybody more time!

The men and women of our military do not have a choice in nor control of their time. Civilians do. There is absolutely no conflict that can be worked around except death.

The point is that not everybody should be given more time. If they were too lazy and irresponsible to vote in the time allotted, they don't deserve to be given more time. Simply forgetting or being too "busy" is absolutely no excuse for a group of people have complete control of their person.

I am sorry for the confusion but those questions were for Tyler.
thanks

And that would stop me or anyone else from replying how? Do you know how discussions, message boards, and the internet work?

But I didn't answer any of your questions...

[philgarris]

The men and women of our military do not have a choice in nor control of their time. Civilians do. There is absolutely no conflict that can be worked around except death.

The point is that not everybody should be given more time. If they were too lazy and irresponsible to vote in the time allotted, they don't deserve to be given more time. Simply forgetting or being too "busy" is absolutely no excuse for a group of people have complete control of their person.


And that would stop me or anyone else from replying how? Do you know how discussions, message boards, and the internet work?

But I didn't answer any of your questions...

Justin you seem to think that my response was for you it was for everyone in general, I had asked Tyler some specific questions and wanted his input on them but failed to make that clear so I was just verifying if anyone was confused as to why I made it so general.

[philgarris]

The men and women of our military do not have a choice in nor control of their time. Civilians do. There is absolutely no conflict that can be worked around except death.

The point is that not everybody should be given more time. If they were too lazy and irresponsible to vote in the time allotted, they don't deserve to be given more time. Simply forgetting or being too "busy" is absolutely no excuse for a group of people have complete control of their person.


And that would stop me or anyone else from replying how? Do you know how discussions, message boards, and the internet work?

But I didn't answer any of your questions...

I think I heard yesterday that Ohio starts early voting October 2. So seems that this has already been decided.

[JuBru]

Justin you seem to think that my response was for you it was for everyone in general, I had asked Tyler some specific questions and wanted his input on them but failed to make that clear so I was just verifying if anyone was confused as to why I made it so general.

If you quote me, you are talking to me. Still wouldn't stop me, or anyone else, from interjecting when you don't.

But I still didn't say anything about or answer your question to him.