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    How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    Its so simple it hurts....

    HAVE THE SAME RULES FOR COACHES!! Players have to sit out a year or move down a division, without special permission from the NCAA. If a coach breaks his contract, not only will the school stealing the coach have to pay the buyout, but they will also have to go a year without a head coach and the coach leaving will have to go a year without pay.

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    Oh and any sanctions or discipline from violations follow the coach and do not stay with the school he committed them at.

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    No, the right answer is to go directly to the end game: The NCAA admits that ESPN is the ruling body for college football. They set the rules, the conferences, and the schedules especially the OOC games. They decide who goes to what bowls. They decide where coaches are eligible to coach. They use some sort of certification and apprentice program. Once you have been an assistant under a certified coach or two, then you can upgrade to OC or DC. Once you have done that and shown to interview well or horribly (so long as it makes good TV), then you can be a HC. Depending on your creds and experience, you can be certified for a certain tier of HC. (DC at TX can coach at top tier schools as HC, DC at ull can be FCS HC). See your future, be your future.

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    It is a job and people in this country have a right to go after the job of their choosing so I am not sure you can legislate that sort of thing. All it will do is make lawyers richer.

    However, I would like to see all coaching hires, including interviews, take place the last half of January. Move signing day back to 15 February. All coaching hires, from HC on down, have to be done during that time. Everybody is playing in the same timeframe and after all the games are done. No coaches jump ship before their bowl. Make it subject to the same rules as apply to recruiting kids, schools cannot publically talk about candidates until that two week window. Then immediately after the two week "coaches" window, everybody has a two week period to reassess schools and coaches before signing day. It also allows the new coaches to get a couple of weeks to talk to recruits.

    As has been mentioned elsewhere, unintended consequences could occur, but some added thought beforehand in designing the guidelines could help mitigate them.

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    Quote Originally Posted by hookdown View Post
    It is a job and people in this country have a right to go after the job of their choosing so I am not sure you can legislate that sort of thing. All it will do is make lawyers richer.

    However, I would like to see all coaching hires, including interviews, take place the last half of January. Move signing day back to 15 February. All coaching hires, from HC on down, have to be done during that time. Everybody is playing in the same timeframe and after all the games are done. No coaches jump ship before their bowl. Make it subject to the same rules as apply to recruiting kids, schools cannot publically talk about candidates until that two week window. Then immediately after the two week "coaches" window, everybody has a two week period to reassess schools and coaches before signing day. It also allows the new coaches to get a couple of weeks to talk to recruits.

    As has been mentioned elsewhere, unintended consequences could occur, but some added thought beforehand in designing the guidelines could help mitigate them.
    Sounds good to me!

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    I just think you make the buyout rules the same for both sides. Your contract is for 5 years at 1 million per year and the school wants to fire you, it has to pay the guaranteed portion of the contract, if you want to leave, you have to pay the guaranteed portion of the contract. To buy out Ellos Johnson SMU had to pay about 2 mil. I don't know what it would take to buy Dykes out of his contract right now, but that should be his buyout as well.

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    If they aren't going to honor contracts, then don't have them. Pay them by the year or buy the game if that is what it takes. Sanctions should follow the coach wherever he goes for whatever period they are issued.

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    Sanctions do follow coaches (usually). That's why Tressel isn't a coach right now and Carrol went to he NFL. But schools shouldn't be le off the hook. They are just a culpable.

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

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    schools shouldn't be le off the hook. They are just a culpable.
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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Sanctions do follow coaches (usually). That's why Tressel isn't a coach right now and Carrol went to he NFL. But schools shouldn't be le off the hook. They are just a culpable.
    You are correct.

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    Quote Originally Posted by detltu View Post
    I just think you make the buyout rules the same for both sides.


    That would be the fair and logical thing to do. Alas, that means it will never come about.

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    NCAA should treat ESPN (and other networks) like they do those associated with institutions with sports programs. They attempt to control free meals, etc. Do they really allow competition between networks? Or does ESPN control who gets what (other than ND)? Or, do the "big boys" tell NCAA what they can do... with the rest of the institutions and their programs.

    It is sort of difficult to follow the control "tree" related to "ammy" athletics for this simple brain of mine. Hurts my head!

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Sanctions do follow coaches (usually). That's why Tressel isn't a coach right now and Carrol went to he NFL. But schools shouldn't be le off the hook. They are just a culpable.
    Yep...Any school wanting to hire Tressel has to get NCAA approval prior to December 19, 2016. No school will go through that.

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    Re: How to Fix the Coach Poaching in College Football

    Coach poaching will always be with us. You just have to try and mitigate it by making the next hire better than the last one. The coach hiring period that I proposed above would at least put everybody on equal footing timewise and keep a school from losing a coach before a bowl game or a few days before signing day. And it gives everyone, including recruits a chance to take a breath and assess the new landscape. The sensible and fair for both sides buyout would help as well.

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