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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by sportdawg View Post
    Bossier 'kills' tax to benefit I-Bowl
    http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story...bowl/18515797/
    Bossier Parish voters were opposed to the tax 55 percent to 45 percent. Although Caddo voters supported the tax, the 52-48 edge wasn't enough to overcome the Bossier deficit.
    Isn't that Roy Lang? Typical.

    "Poorly Promoted Proposal Dooms IBowl Measure" would be better.

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by boxerdog View Post
    What is the rationale for any local person (who is not affiliated with the casinos) voting the tax down?
    Let's face it, the Indy Bowl hasn't exactly endeared itself to many NW Louisiana voters, especially with its' poor decisions over the last 2 or 3 years. They pissed off a lot of voters in 2012 --including many LA Tech alums-- when they pulled their little stunt and invited ULM instead of LA Tech. So how's that working for 'em now?

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    People were simply uninformed. There was no promotion for it. The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the people behind the tax for it failing (Missy Setters, Shreveport-Bossier Sports Commission, airport alliance). Just like an election for those running for office, you must campaign if you want to win on Election Day. There was no campaign for nor against this hotel tax that I'm aware of. I'm sure most conservatives rejected it as soon as they saw "tax" on the ballot without knowing anything about it. I'm sure the majority of the electorate had no idea this was even going to be on the ballot when they entered the voting booth. That's why the votes broke down as they did Shreveport vs. Bossier.
    I agree with this. No one told anyone what it would be used for, who would control it, etc. We also are very aware of Shreveport and the inept ability to handle money. I would have been interested in it from the other 2 areas, if they could have convinced me it was not simply a wasted pot of money. Instead, the only thing being said was it was for the I-bowl which I care nothing about.

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal&Ken View Post
    I agree with this. No one told anyone what it would be used for, who would control it, etc. We also are very aware of Shreveport and the inept ability to handle money. I would have been interested in it from the other 2 areas, if they could have convinced me it was not simply a wasted pot of money. Instead, the only thing being said was it was for the I-bowl which I care nothing about.
    I didnt even know about it and I live in Shreveport.

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Poor effort by those wanting the tax -

    They didn't even throw a punch or make swing to try and get it passed
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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    So let Shreveport destroy itself ala Detroit, then others can move in and revive a new city. Hey, I'm pretty sure this whole affair is the plot for Arrow. Only the real-life equalivents don't know how to end the plot.

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    Yep.

    For this bowl/sports/airport hotel tax...
    - I got nothing in the mail.
    - I got no flyer on my door.
    - I saw no yard signs.
    - I saw no billboards.
    - I saw no commercials.
    - I saw nothing on the news.
    - I saw nothing on The Times sports page or online sports tab.
    - I saw nothing on social media.
    - Nobody came to my house.

    How did they expect it to pass without any promotion?
    For full disclosure, I voted against the tax proposal. I hesitated as to which way I would vote in Election Day, but I ultimately decided to vote against the proposal.

    I'm not anti-tax. I'm in favor of taxes if the money is used wisely by the government and a good case is made as to why the tax should exist. I voted for a tax renewal for the Bossier Parish libraries yesterday, because I use their libraries on a regular basis and I've seen first hand how the money is used to improve the lives of Bossier Parish residents.

    I voted against the I-Bowl tax proposal, because the tax supporters did not make any case to the voters as to why the tax should be approved or how our area would improve due to the tax. If they sold the tax proposal to the voters and told us why the tax would benefit our area, I probably would have voted in favor of the tax. Talking about the benefits to the Independence Bowl and how the Sports Commission would use their share of the money to bring in sports events like the C-USA Basketball Tournament would have been a lot better than saying absolutely nothing or being wishy-washy like Senator Barrow Pea-____.

    I believe the 2012 bowl fiasco was the last major news some Tech people heard about the Independence Bowl, since no tax supporters made the case publicly for the tax. So, when some of these voters heard about an "I-Bowl Tax" on the ballot, they didn't think of potential benefits to the area and Louisiana Tech athletics. They thought of Missy Sellers and the I-Bowl flipping Tech the middle finger and telling them to go screw themselves. With the absence of a good case for the tax and how it could benefit Shreveport and maybe LA Tech, the only thing they (and I) thought about was the 2012 bowl fiasco.

    For me, I voted against the tax, because no good case was made to me to support the tax. If you don't effectively sell the tax proposal and can't give me good reasons to support a tax increase, my natural inclination is to oppose the tax. I suspect many people are the same way.

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by LouisianaSelect View Post
    I didnt even know about it and I live in Shreveport.
    I live in Bossier and had seen it talked about a while ago here. The day before the election I found out it was on the ballot when a friend that is involved with the I-bowl posted about it on FB. Even her description didn't discuss anything other than the I-bowl, and for her that was enough. That is reason enough for many to just say NO. They needed to sell the other areas.

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal&Ken View Post
    I live in Bossier and had seen it talked about a while ago here. The day before the election I found out it was on the ballot when a friend that is involved with the I-bowl posted about it on FB. Even her description didn't discuss anything other than the I-bowl, and for her that was enough. That is reason enough for many to just say NO. They needed to sell the other areas.
    That's the reason why the proposal this time included money for the Sports Commission and the Airport group. I believe the hope was that enough people would support the other two items attached to the I-Bowl proposal to get the whole package passed. When the hotel/motel tax for just the I-Bowl was presented to the Legislature in 2013 the first time, it was swatted down in the Legislature with the assistance of local Representative Barbara Norton.

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    While publicity and leadership is definitely up for debate, I believe it was the Shreveport Bossier Sports Authority who was working with Tech and C-USA to bring the basketball tournament here. Those efforts were given a blow by the voting down of this hotel tax.

    It was this group that put on the very successful NBA exhibition between Dallas and New Orleans. In fact, Britton Banowsky was on hand with Tommy Mc and some other Tech folks at that exhibition game. I absolutely believed given more resources, they would have been a great asset to the region's sports development.

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Again, in hospitality communities I'm all for "Hamburger Taxes" and "Hotel Taxes." It's how the tourist part of New Orleans, Hot Springs and such communities survive.

    The tourists pay the tax.


    Missy's best friends in the hotel business shoulda been convinced to be on board.
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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    So let Shreveport destroy itself ala Detroit, then others can move in and revive a new city. Hey, I'm pretty sure this whole affair is the plot for Arrow. Only the real-life equalivents don't know how to end the plot.
    does this mean if Missy goes away she will keep coming back in a Flash? No one on the show ever stays down for long ... One positive of Shreveport Bossier is strong military community and absolutely votes RED. Sad part is realization that kids have so much more opportunity and quality of life outside LA ....

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by baw011 View Post
    While publicity and leadership is definitely up for debate, I believe it was the Shreveport Bossier Sports Authority who was working with Tech and C-USA to bring the basketball tournament here. Those efforts were given a blow by the voting down of this hotel tax.

    It was this group that put on the very successful NBA exhibition between Dallas and New Orleans. In fact, Britton Banowsky was on hand with Tommy Mc and some other Tech folks at that exhibition game. I absolutely believed given more resources, they would have been a great asset to the region's sports development.
    I am proud to say my son and I sponsored the men and womens team and coaches for the game. Had to act fast when e-mail came because I know many folks would have jumped at chance

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    9 out of 10 voters are morons.
    Stop quoting Landrieu on here. Save that for the pawlitical forum.

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    Re: I Bowl Tax

    The Duckers appear to be one and done. Tax could be back on the ballot.

    http://www.ktbs.com/story/28617315/d...ependence-bowl

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