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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpix View Post
    So . . . . the university takes way less money so you can enjoy your drink?
    The university is taking less money already by not offering adequate concessions. TECH has control over that and does nothing to change it. This is the same song and many years of verses.

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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    Nobody hates Pepsi more than me although Mt.Dew is a wonderful drink. This has never been about anything other than making more money for Tech. Ouachita Coca Cola has been stealing from local universities and high schools for years with low paying contracts. Pepsi offered a good deal. We need the money. Tech did a HORRIBLE job of explaining this to the fan base.
    They have NEVER explained it to the fan base. They have simply sucked with the concessions! They are leaving lots of dollars on the table that don't have to be with bottle drinks, no ice, no cups, no food, no anything. If they ever stop people from bringing in their own, people will have more complaints.

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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    Originally didn't Dawgpix tell us that the Pepsi contract was supposed to pay for the new TAC video/scoreboard a couple years ago? What happened with that?

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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpix View Post
    So . . . . the university takes way less money so you can enjoy your drink?
    Well, it's not quite that simple. This is what it boils down to ultimately, and I can see why you can't really maintain a decent relationship with a sponsor by admitting that you're sort of stuck with them even though they are very much less popular.

    But the "way less money" part may (or may not) be mitigated by people buying less product. Probably not enough to offset the difference in the overall deal, but enough that it bears some (more tactful than Dwagpix's) explanation from the school.

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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    Dawgpix can confirm this, but I think that varies based on territory. In the local territory Dr. Pepper is owned by Coke and does not go through a separate distributor. What you described above can't happen here.

    I think our fans would be willing to tough it out if Tech would inform them that the Pepsi deal was much better for us financially AND if Tech would consider serving cold Pepsi products instead of hot ones.
    The other factor is that they were aggressively being bid on by several competing companies, so they had some leverage. We've got to establish ourselves as a viable money-making partnership (or at least be recognized as one - sounds to me like Coke doesn't think we're worth it) before we have much leverage to demand very much.

    But your second point is true as well, folks might put up with Pepsi better if it was at least handled as best as it can be handled by Aramark.

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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    People might put up with deal if it was actually a cold drink and not lukewarm or hot! Tech concessions suck, football and basketball.

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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    Quote Originally Posted by inudesu View Post
    The other factor is that they were aggressively being bid on by several competing companies, so they had some leverage. We've got to establish ourselves as a viable money-making partnership (or at least be recognized as one - sounds to me like Coke doesn't think we're worth it) before we have much leverage to demand very much.

    But your second point is true as well, folks might put up with Pepsi better if it was at least handled as best as it can be handled by Aramark.
    Yes, contracts are determined by the companies on what they think they will be selling on campus in machines and campus facilities. Sometimes I think the athletics sales/profits are not a part of that equation. I will say this. More drinks have been sold since this Pepsico contract was honored cuz there have been more fans in attendance to buy drinks. So, if Coke bid higher, I bet they would be making cash hand-over-fist at athletics events to cover the higher bid quote.

    The TAC scoreboard? Yep, Pepsi should've been the top advertiser but the powers-that-be didn't see it that way . . . .

    Next go 'round, the Tech wish list for the pouring contract should have lots more value than the current one won by Pepsi.
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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    We are required by law to take the lowest bidder. Pepsi was the lowest bidder. I don't like it but it is what it is, if you wanna blame someone, blame Coke, not Tech.

    But hot Pepsi is just awful, THAT is Tech's fault. I sometimes feel like we don't even have enough staff to cover all the things that need to be covered...I'd rather think that than know there are just incompetent imbeciles in charge.

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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    We are required by law to take the lowest bidder. Pepsi was the lowest bidder. I don't like it but it is what it is, if you wanna blame someone, blame Coke, not Tech.

    But hot Pepsi is just awful, THAT is Tech's fault. I sometimes feel like we don't even have enough staff to cover all the things that need to be covered...I'd rather think that than know there are just incompetent imbeciles in charge.
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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    There would be less complaints about Pepsi if cold ones were available on demand -

    Really wish they would stock Diet Mt Dew also...

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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    AND if Tech would consider serving cold Pepsi products instead of hot ones.
    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2180 View Post
    People might put up with deal if it was actually a cold drink and not lukewarm or hot!
    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post

    But hot Pepsi is just awful, THAT is Tech's fault.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    There would be less complaints about Pepsi if cold ones were available on demand
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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Dawg View Post
    We are required by law to take the lowest bidder. Pepsi was the lowest bidder. I don't like it but it is what it is, if you wanna blame someone, blame Coke, not Tech.

    But hot Pepsi is just awful, THAT is Tech's fault. I sometimes feel like we don't even have enough staff to cover all the things that need to be covered...I'd rather think that than know there are just incompetent imbeciles in charge.
    Contracts can easily be written so that the desired winner is chosen. Please don't believe that lie! I have seen it happen over and over with contracts. TECH may not have done their homework properly, but then that would not be surprising. Anyone related to the concessions debacle should be finding a new career elsewhere.

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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cal&Ken View Post
    Contracts can easily be written so that the desired winner is chosen. Please don't believe that lie! I have seen it happen over and over with contracts. TECH may not have done their homework properly, but then that would not be surprising. Anyone related to the concessions debacle should be finding a new career elsewhere.
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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    You can stipulate cans, bottles, fountain, minimum number of brand families etal -

    But not directly coke or pepsi.

    If would be thrown out in a heart beat
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    Re: Hey Bdfanatic!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    You can stipulate cans, bottles, fountain, minimum number of brand families etal -

    But not directly coke or pepsi.

    If would be thrown out in a heart beat
    I have seen contracts so specific that there was only 1 acceptable brand. I am not buying that it can't be done. I have had an IBM Thinkpad computer for the past 6 years- and we get them every 2 years. There are tons of computers and even other IBM models and yet that model is the only one that can possibly be selected. It can be done!

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