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    Re: Coaching Records

    Quote Originally Posted by zharkins View Post
    Obviously the schedule could be tougher, but it could be weaker as well. Our OOC schedule is not as weak as you may think, and has been much weaker before Konkol.

    Average OOC Strength of Schedule (according to NCAA Final Team Sheets as used by the selection committee)

    Konkol 160
    White 212
    Rupp 298

    Louisiana Tech Non Conference Strength of Schedule Rank (out of 353 teams in 2018-19)

    2018-19 116 Konkol
    2017-18 160 Konkol
    2016-17 200 Konkol
    2015-16 164 Konkol
    2014-15 143 White
    2013-14 242 White
    2012-13 190 White
    2011-12 273 White
    2010-11 309 Rupp
    2009-10 268 Rupp
    2008-09 326 Rupp
    2007-08 290 Rupp
    2006-07 192 Richard
    2005-06 91 Richard
    2004-05 263 Richard
    I think it's important to note non-DI games are not calculated into SOS rankings so I think it'd be relevant to also include our non-DI record each of those seasons to get a more comprehensive perspective, especially since those non-DI games are most fans' biggest complaint.

    For example, this past season Harding and Tougaloo were not calculated into our SOS ranking.

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    Re: Coaching Records

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden View Post
    I've been saying this for years...
    I call Bullshit. Never this bad

    Union College Division III finished 10-14
    Sam Houston 136, Southland regular season champs with 21-12 record
    Harding Division II finished 5-23
    Tougaloo NAIA 28-5
    Houston Baptist 296 RPI, 12-18 in the Southland
    Prairie View A&M 156 RPI 22-13 SWAC tourney champs
    Mississippi Valley 351 RPI 6-26 SWAC
    Texas A&M Corpus Christi 261 RPI 14-18 Southland

    ... so, throwing out the THREE scrimmages, the average RPI of home opponents was 240

    Y’all think that is acceptable?

    In reality, Two of the scrimmages should be calculated at 353 a piece, which brings the average to 272
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    Re: Coaching Records

    Quote Originally Posted by zharkins View Post
    Obviously the schedule could be tougher, but it could be weaker as well. Our OOC schedule is not as weak as you may think, and has been much weaker before Konkol.
    Quote Originally Posted by zharkins View Post
    No, I'm not quite that resourceful, but we really haven't played enough world beaters on the road to really skew the numbers one way or the other. The point is, our schedule is just average, not the best and not the worst, but it has certainly gotten better since Rupp and White.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    I think it's important to note non-DI games are not calculated into SOS rankings so I think it'd be relevant to also include our non-DI record each of those seasons to get a more comprehensive perspective, especially since those non-DI games are most fans' biggest complaint.

    For example, this past season Harding and Tougaloo were not calculated into our SOS ranking.
    I went ahead and looked at the non-DI games.

    Average OOC Strength of Schedule (according to NCAA Final Team Sheets as used by the selection committee)
    Konkol 160 (AVG 2.00 non-DI opponents not included)
    White 212(AVG 1.25 non-DI opponents not included)
    Rupp 298 *(AVG 0.75 non-DI opponents not included)*
    Richard ??? **(AVG 0.33 non-DI opponents not included)**

    Louisiana Tech Non Conference Strength of Schedule Rank (out of 353 teams in 2018-19)
    2018-19 116 Konkol (2 non-DIs not included: Harding, Tougaloo)
    2017-18 160 Konkol (2 non-DIs not included: UT-Tyler, Miles)
    2016-17 200 Konkol (2 non-DIs not included: LSUS, Oklahoma Baptist)
    2015-16 164 Konkol (2 non-DIs not included: LSUS, Millsaps)
    2014-15 143 White (1 non-DI not included: Southern Arkansas)
    2013-14 242 White (1 non-DI not included: Centenary)
    2012-13 190 White (1 non-DI not included: Central Baptist)
    2011-12 273 White (2 non-DIs not included: Mississippi College, Spring Hill)
    2010-11 309 Rupp (1 non-DI not included: Austin College)
    2009-10 268 Rupp (0 non-DIs scheduled)
    2008-09 326 Rupp *(2 non-DIs not included: Seattle, Alaska-Anchorage)*
    2007-08 290 Rupp (0 non-DIs scheduled)
    2006-07 192 Richard (0 non-DIs scheduled)
    2005-06 91 Richard (1 non-DI not included: Tougaloo)
    2004-05 263 Richard (0 non-DIs scheduled)

    * Under Rupp, Seattle and Alaska-Anchorage were part of Great Alaska Shootout. Seattle was in transition to DI and didn't become official DI counter until the next season. Alaska-Anchorage was the host of the Great Alaska Shootout like Chaminade in the Maui Invitational. I wonder if Seattle was a last-minute replacement for a team that pulled out? We also lost to both Seattle and Alaska-Anchorage. But Rupp did go undefeated vs. ULL so I can forgive him.

    ** Richard's average only used data for the 3 seasons posted earlier in this thread.

    In conclusion, I'd suggest Zharkins' conclusion that our OOC schedules are getting tougher is inaccurate due to using a data set that excludes non-DI games. My observation is that more recently Tech has been manipulating the RPI SOS formula, whether intentional or not, to artificially inflate our SOS by scheduling more non-DI opponents that don't count in the formula. It's a fact Konkol has skewed the OOC SOS numbers by playing more non-DI opponents than any of our previous coaches. Konkol's non-DI games are a legit complaint IMO. No one wants to watch that crap.
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    Re: Coaching Records

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    I went ahead and looked at it.

    Average OOC Strength of Schedule (according to NCAA Final Team Sheets as used by the selection committee)
    Konkol 160 (AVG 2.00 non-DI opponents not included)
    White 212(AVG 1.25 non-DI opponents not included)
    Rupp 298 *(AVG 0.75 non-DI opponents not included)*
    Richard ??? **(AVG 0.33 non-DI opponents not included)**

    Louisiana Tech Non Conference Strength of Schedule Rank (out of 353 teams in 2018-19)
    2018-19 116 Konkol (2 non-DIs not included: Harding, Tougaloo)
    2017-18 160 Konkol (2 non-DIs not included: UT-Tyler, Miles)
    2016-17 200 Konkol (2 non-DIs not included: LSUS, Oklahoma Baptist)
    2015-16 164 Konkol (2 non-DIs not included: LSUS, Millsaps)
    2014-15 143 White (1 non-DI not included: Southern Arkansas)
    2013-14 242 White (1 non-DI not included: Centenary)
    2012-13 190 White (1 non-DI not included: Central Baptist)
    2011-12 273 White (2 non-DIs not included: Mississippi College, Spring Hill)
    2010-11 309 Rupp (1 non-DI not included: Austin College)
    2009-10 268 Rupp (0 non-DIs scheduled)
    2008-09 326 Rupp *(2 non-DIs not included: Seattle, Alaska-Anchorage)*
    2007-08 290 Rupp (0 non-DIs scheduled)
    2006-07 192 Richard (0 non-DIs scheduled)
    2005-06 91 Richard (1 non-DI not included: Tougaloo)
    2004-05 263 Richard (0 non-DIs scheduled)

    * Under Rupp, Seattle and Alaska-Anchorage were part of Great Alaska Shootout. Seattle was in transition to DI and didn't become official DI counter until the next season. Alaska-Anchorage was the host of the Great Alaska Shootout like Chaminade in the Maui Invitational.

    ** Richard's average only used data for the 3 seasons posted earlier in this thread.

    In conclusion, I'd suggest Zharkins' conclusion that our OOC schedules are getting tougher is inaccurate due to using a data set that excludes non-DI games. My observation is that more recently Tech has simply been manipulating the RPI SOS formula, whether intentional or not, to artificially inflate our SOS by scheduling more non-DI opponents that don't count in the formula. It's a fact Konkol has skewed the OOC SOS numbers by playing more non-DI opponents than any of our previous coaches. Konkol's non-DI games are a legit complaint IMO. No one wants to watch that crap.
    Exactly. He is full of it.

    2017-2018
    UT Tyler Division III
    SEMO 229
    Montana State 252
    Miles College Division II
    SFA 140
    Jackson State 318
    ULL 45

    Average RPI DI 197
    Throw in the extra punk game at the max 351, average RPI goes to 223

    Of Course, Konkol went 17-16 against that killer schedule which may explain why we added another punk and dropped it down by an effective 50 points this past season

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    Re: Coaching Records

    We didn't exactly have killer OOC schedules back in the 80's and into the 90's. What we did have were very good coaches and some great players. The exception to the OOC slate not being strong was the couple of years, under Eagles, when we played in some good tourneys. We played several PAC 10 teams, and beat 'em, played Clemson, and several other "P5" big conference schools. We played at then #1 ranked Syracuse and took 'em into OT. But! those were all either road games or neutral sites.

    During our best two seasons in the history of Tech MBB, 83-85, our home OOC slate was headlined by Rice (old SWC) and a decent Weber State team. That was it. Of course, the old SLC was pretty salty back then with FOUR Top 50 programs in it. In 84-85 we played at a ranked Oklahoma, and lost, and beat a ranked Louisville at a neutral site.

    Point is Tech has NEVER had a good home OOC slate in MBB, never! With great coaches/players it doesn't really matter. You'll get your shot at good teams when you Dance!

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