If a freshman shortstop calls the ball, the senior second baseman will yield, especially if he has signed with LSU.Originally Posted by theprofessor
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If a freshman shortstop calls the ball, the senior second baseman will yield, especially if he has signed with LSU.
It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.
It doesn't matter if he is the best athlete or not. If a shortstop calls the ball, all of the other infielders yield, including LSU signees.
It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.
Bingo.
It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.
Are you sure? Even LSU signees? Aren't they golden?
Good old Memorial Gym
Again, for this discussion only, there's no way the shortstop can get an error. Take a look at the original description:
If the SS and CF were within a few steps watching, they obviously didn't call for the ball and didn't attempt to make a play. As a scorekeeper, your job isn't to make assumptions of what someone should have done. Your job is to score the play. In the instance I described, the senior second baseman is the leader of the team. He's an all-state player who has been a state champion. The freshman shortstop is going to be a great player. He's the coach's kid. But he's not the leader of the team. For that team, it's the second baseman's ball. Every team has different dynamics and is coached to do things differently. A scorekeeper's job isn't to be a coach; it's to score the play that happened.
the bold, the beautiful, theprofessor
Not arguing that it was an error n the shortstop. I was responding to the statement that the second baseman doesn't yield. I don't know of a team that gives second base priority. I think Abner Doubleday set the shortstop priority.
It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.
Yall are too nice. I would have scored it a "wind aided" infield fly. Batter is out, no runner advance!
Maybe I'm too hasty. Our team batting?
Error on 2B. Runner thrown out trying to advance. Perfect game is officially over but no-hitter is still in tact! LOL!
The #1 rule that all kids need to be taught on plays like that whether the wind is a factor or not -- turn & run to the spot where you think the ball is going to land then look up & find the ball. Drifting & drifting & drifting back is a recipe for disaster. Watch the pro players & the high IQ college players -- this is exactly what 99% of them do. Tough plays like this can become easy plays.
Definitely an error on the 2nd baseman. However, the smart (and correct) play would have been for the Center Fielder to come up and make the easy catch, with the ball in front of him. As Pitcherjilt said, drifting back is a recipe for disaster. Plus, the center fielder's "forward" momentum would have enabled him to make an easier throw out if needed.
Always better the play the ball IN FRONT of you. Sounds like the 2nd baseman really screwed this up.
Such eloquence! A man after my own heart.
It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.
Score keepers have it so easy....
Be a MAN and UMPIRE!!!
DocMarvin,
I umpired a few Dixie games during the summer back when I was in college & playing at Tech. After those few games, I made a pact with myself that I would never do that again! The players were great but it was dealing with the parents, grandparents, & friends in the stands that was a pain. And I know the rules, how to call a fair game, & such -- so many people have no idea what they're talking about when they argue or yell something. Much love & respect to those of you who choose to do this!
If was as windy as it was for our Sunday scrimmage, it was a hit.....unless it was a no hitter.
No where close.
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