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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    Quote Originally Posted by TechDawgMc View Post

    What they're going to want to do is create separate rules but still play the other teams for money/body bag games. I hope the smaller schools don't let that happen.
    What's really going to be interesting is when a Big 5 conference softball or women's soccer team competes against teams from the Group of 5. The women from one school will be receiving stipends, and more than likely the women from the other school will not. Because, if you're going to give stipends, every scholarship athlete is going to have to get one. Men's sport or women's sport. This is all assuming the Big 5 schools are allowed to create their own division within the NCAA.

    And if they break away from the NCAA, the NCAA isn't going to sanction events with any Big 5 (non-NCAA) schools. I hope those 70 to 80 schools get used to competing against each other - in every sport.

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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    I sorta see it as a bluff for other concessions. I'm just not sure what it will be. The Big5 are hovering closer and closer to multiple anti-trust issues and could get wacked pretty hard.

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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    And if they break away from the NCAA, the NCAA isn't going to sanction events with any Big 5 (non-NCAA) schools. I hope those 70 to 80 schools get used to competing against each other - in every sport.

    So do I. But it will greatly depend on if the breakaway is all sports or football only.

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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    Arrogance is exactly what he exudes. I remember when he dissed Bosie State as not being worthy to be in a BCS bowl (what he was really ticked about was THE Ohio State getting left out.)
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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    Quote Originally Posted by hookdown View Post



    The big guys just throw some dollars into their re-election campaigns and all will be well.... :icon_wink:


    Seriously, I rather suspect that more folks in Ohio support OSU than all of the MAC teams together. Probably the same in other states as well. The little guys will not fair well in this and no one will really care, not even the politicians.
    I strongly feel as though a split of only the "Power 5" conferences will never fly. The Orrin Hatch/Utah playbook would be reopened by a lot of the MWC teams especially. Look at the following states whose flagship competes in the current FBS, and would be boxed out:

    >> Nevada
    Hawaii
    New Mexico
    Idaho
    Wyoming

    In the east... Connecticut

    Couple that with pols in states that don't have FBS schools... who would risk a lot of money in a possible MBB split. I think there would be some potential for a lot of pushback.

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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    Does everyone forget that they tried this before? There was this super collection who didn't like the smaller schools getting any share of the TV revenue which the NCAA required. However, the advent of all the sports networks took away this incentive. There were and are just too many televised games for the super conferences to satisfy. Also remember it isn't any of the AD's etc calling the shots anymore. It's ESPN/ABC, Fox, etc. The big boys can't do jack now without clearing it first with the networks.

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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    Quote Originally Posted by domangue View Post
    I strongly feel as though a split of only the "Power 5" conferences will never fly.
    Never say Never.

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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    They just need to change their name from College Football to Minor League Football, drop all requirements for players to attend class, pay them a salary and quit running this ruse.
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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech77 View Post
    They just need to change their name from College Football to Minor League Football, drop all requirements for players to attend class, pay them a salary and quit running this ruse.
    Right! Call them by the city they are located in. Tuscaloosa, Columbus, Baton Rouge, Austin, Lincoln, Gainsville, etc.......No ties to any university.

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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tech77 View Post
    They just need to change their name from College Football to Minor League Football, drop all requirements for players to attend class, pay them a salary and quit running this ruse.
    That's a great point. Some of the Top 30 or so schools need to decide what business they are really in. Are they in the football business, or the business of education?? It sounds like some of them prefer minor league football. Why even carry the university banner? Hell, it's costing LSU money just to stay associated with its' university! (Remember when the LSU athletic program started donating some of its' money back to the university?)

    Maybe the Top 30 schools (and there's really only about 30 programs who would truly qualify as "big dogs") should just withdraw from the NCAA, and form a minor league football association. Not everybody in the Big 5 conferences would qualify, so they should leave the "conferences" out of it. Only program's like Michigan, Ohio State, Texas and Oklahoma would qualify, and not programs such as Iowa St, Baylor, Kansas, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, Northwestern, etc.....

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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    The only major problem with that is that they would beat up on each other and their record would look like crap. You think schools like Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Florida Stae want to play up every week when now they only have to do for 3 games out of the season.

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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    Quote Originally Posted by KSDAWG View Post
    The only major problem with that is that they would beat up on each other and their record would look like crap. You think schools like Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Florida Stae want to play up every week when now they only have to do for 3 games out of the season.
    Which is exactly why it hasn't happened yet. That's why they want to stay under the NCAA umbrella. So they can continue to play the smaller teams and continue to keep their other sports in the NCAA. Plus, as HD has mentioned before, tax benefits. Once they create a new league, it's going to be hard to convince anyone it's a not for profit organization.

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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    It would probably be a new division. There already are multiple divisions in college football.

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    Re: Big money conference breakaway/NCAA split?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woof! View Post
    It would probably be a new division. There already are multiple divisions in college football.
    I think they will separate themselves in some way - similar to the bcs. I do not think they will go semi-pro or leave the NCAA. I think they need the other FBS schools more than they admit. They can talk all they want and classify themselves as "on a higher level", but they need us to even have a higher level. They don't want to just play each other. They want to play other FBS programs that are lower than them on the ladder, so they can win and say they did it with a FBS schedule.

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