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    NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely


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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    Actually, for them, it isn't a bad idea. Sink the money in basketball, where they already have a name and they could build a powerhouse team.

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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    If he drops football, then he is basically agreeing to drop to FCS as well. Dropping football hurts every other sport because of the money it brings in, but also because you can't be a descent FBS conference without a football program. This also reduces scholarships by 85, which changes the gender equity rules of Title IX, and softball and soccer teams might be eliminated to offset the funding brought in by football.

    I'm glad we aren't considering this.

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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    I'd speculate this is a ploy to open some wallets.

    The same trick worked at Tulane not so long ago.

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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    Quote Originally Posted by StrayDawg View Post
    If he drops football, then he is basically agreeing to drop to FCS as well. Dropping football hurts every other sport because of the money it brings in, but also because you can't be a descent FBS conference without a football program. This also reduces scholarships by 85, which changes the gender equity rules of Title IX, and softball and soccer teams might be eliminated to offset the funding brought in by football.

    I'm glad we aren't considering this.
    FBS/FCS is a football designation. Dropping football eliminates those designations.

    They remain Division 1-AAA. By cutting 85 men's scholdships they can eliminate some of the Women's scholarships. They save a ton of money in some areas like scholarships and travel, but cutting football also takes away their largest revenue producer.
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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    I'd speculate this is a ploy to open some wallets.

    The same trick worked at Tulane not so long ago.
    New Mexico State differs a lot from Tulane University. Think of how many politicians, doctors, lawyers, and other really rich alums that Tulane has at their disposal. Tulane has an endowment almost six times larger than New Mexico State. They also had a favorable college football conference situation and a decent-sized market (even though no one in that market attends any of the games).

    This kind of trick worked for Tulane, but I doubt it would work for NM State.
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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    The non-football designation is still I-AAA, a holdover from the I-A and I-AA days.

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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
    The non-football designation is still I-AAA, a holdover from the I-A and I-AA days.
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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    When Lamar U dropped football in laate 80's, their student body population dropped about 25%.

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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    Quote Originally Posted by DQDawg View Post
    When Lamar U dropped football in laate 80's, their student body population dropped about 25%.
    Yes. No doubt it matters, but LaMon carried it a little too far when they claimed enrollment was up 25% in an interview following the Baylor game.
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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    Yes. No doubt it matters, but LaMon carried it a little too far when they claimed enrollment was up 25% in an interview following the Baylor game.
    It was, they had just enrolled 5 new students in the online janitorial degree program.
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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    I may be confused, which is nothing new. However, if they dropped football completely, they could still be 1a in BBall, right? For NMSU, who has no where to go in football and can't draw any fans, why keep it? They could put all their money in bball and really build a powerhouse. That is where their heart is, anyway. They could easily develop a regular top 25 program and make money off bball units to do very well. Am I missing something? I don't think it will hurt their enrollment. No one goes to their football games, anyway, and they are not known for football.

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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    Quote Originally Posted by champion110 View Post
    I may be confused, which is nothing new. However, if they dropped football completely, they could still be 1a in BBall, right? For NMSU, who has no where to go in football and can't draw any fans, why keep it? They could put all their money in bball and really build a powerhouse. That is where their heart is, anyway. They could easily develop a regular top 25 program and make money off bball units to do very well. Am I missing something? I don't think it will hurt their enrollment. No one goes to their football games, anyway, and they are not known for football.
    No 1A in BBall. Every other sport would be division 1. As RC pointed out those schools w/out football are designated 1-AAA.

    They'd miss the extra $2 mil or so of revenue Football brings in.
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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg View Post
    No 1A in BBall. Every other sport would be division 1. As RC pointed out those schools w/out football are designated 1-AAA.

    They'd miss the extra $2 mil or so of revenue Football brings in.
    I did not realize that, which is why I didn't understand RC statement. Well, they should drop to FCS, then. Just my opinion. They could be a Gonzoga type progam.

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    Re: NM State considering dropping to FCS or dropping football completely

    Quote Originally Posted by champion110 View Post
    I did not realize that, which is why I didn't understand RC statement. Well, they should drop to FCS, then. Just my opinion. They could be a Gonzoga type progam.
    Gonzaga is not FCS. They don't have football, so they are 1-AAA.

    Going to FCS is not a money saver or a revenue producer.
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