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    Re: Constitution Party or Jefferson Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    "bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse Israel".

    'nuf said!

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    Re: Constitution Party or Jefferson Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by hookdown View Post
    'nuf said!
    Exactly!

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    Re: Constitution Party or Jefferson Republican Party

    A few interesting facts and quotes per Jefferson

    Thomas Jefferson

    This is amazing. There are two parts. Be sure to read the 2nd part (in RED).

    Thomas Jefferson was a very remarkable man who started learning very early in life and never stopped.

    At 5, began studying under his cousin's tutor.

    At 9, studied Latin, Greek and French.

    At 14, studied classical literature and additional languages.

    At 16, entered the College of William and Mary.

    At 19, studied Law for 5 years starting under George Wythe.

    At 23, started his own law practice.

    At 25, was elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses.

    At 31, wrote the widely circulated "Summary View of the Rights of British Americaand retired from his law practice.

    At 32, was a Delegate to the Second Continental Congress.

    At 33, wrote the Declaration of Independence .

    At 33, took three years to revise Virginia's legal code and wrote a Public Education bill and a statute for Religious Freedom.

    At 36, was elected the second Governor of Virginia succeeding Patrick Henry.

    At 40, served in Congress for two years.

    At 41, was the American minister to France and negotiated commercial treaties with European nations along with Ben Franklin and John Adams.

    At 46, served as the first Secretary of State under George Washington.

    At 53, served as Vice President and was elected president of the American Philosophical Society.

    At 55, drafted the Kentucky Resolutions and became the active head of Republican Party.

    At 57, was elected the third president of the United States .

    At 60, obtained the Louisiana Purchase doubling the nation's size.

    At 61, was elected to a second term as President.

    At 65, retired to Monticello .

    At 80, helped President Monroe shape the Monroe Doctrine.

    At 81, almost single-handedly created the University of Virginia and served as its first president.

    At 83, died on the 50th anniversary of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence along with John Adams.

    Thomas Jefferson knew because he himself studied the previous failed attempts at government. He understood actual history, the nature of God, his laws and the nature of man. That happens to be way more than what most understand today. Jefferson really knew his stuff. A voice from the past to lead us in the future:

    John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the white House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement: "This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."

    "When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe ." -- Thomas Jefferson

    "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
    -- Thomas Jefferson

    "It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world."
    -- Thomas Jefferson

    "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -- Thomas Jefferson

    "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson

    "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson

    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    -- Thomas Jefferson

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson

    "To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."
    -- Thomas Jefferson

    Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

    If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property - until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."


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    Re: Constitution Party or Jefferson Republican Party

    All I can say is that we have proven Jefferson correct.


    He was not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but when it comes to understanding government and governments, he has few peers.

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    Re: Constitution Party or Jefferson Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    Legitimate question here -- Why do people care what the Founders intended?

    I'm asking this seriously. No name-calling please.

    Do folks believe they were greater men than we? That their writings were divinely inspired?

    Beyond recognizing and commending their role in history, what's the big deal with these guys?
    Take the time to read the "Federalist Papers". It's a significant undertaking, but it will give you valuable insight into why the founders structured things as they did.

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    Re: Constitution Party or Jefferson Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    I do know that that God has promised to "bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse Israel".
    Mark this guy off your list. :icon_wink:
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/48848.html

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    Re: Constitution Party or Jefferson Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Woof! View Post
    Mark this guy off your list. :icon_wink:
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/48848.html
    I would agree with him per cutting non military/defense $$ support. They don't need our money for non-defense items. And the Islamic "hate America" countries shouldn't be getting one dime of our money for anything.

    From the article:
    Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), which would cut non-defense discretionary spending by $58 billion for the rest of fiscal 2011.

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    Re: Constitution Party or Jefferson Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by tenacious_dog View Post
    Take the time to read the "Federalist Papers". It's a significant undertaking, but it will give you valuable insight into why the founders structured things as they did.
    Thanks. I've read it.

    I don't question the ideas on their merits. Just the hero-worship.

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    Re: Constitution Party or Jefferson Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    Thanks. I've read it.

    I don't question the ideas on their merits. Just the hero-worship.
    Generally I would agree with you about that. But, I also keep in mind that these folks went to war with the greatest power on the face of the Earth over the principles on which our Constitution is based. Those basic principles became the framework for the greatest nation (from a personal freedom standpoint) the world has ever seen, and the freedoms they guaranteed unleashed vast amounts of individual human potential that benefitted not only those living within our borders, but to a large extent those abroad as well. Because of this, I do tend to give their opinions more credence than someone arguing against their original intent.

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    Re: Constitution Party or Jefferson Republican Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ967 View Post
    Just the hero-worship.
    Who besides the founding fathers would you put in that category?

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