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    SCOTUS Thread

    We don't have a thread bringing up Supreme Court rulings. Maybe this will fix that.


    One case I've followed is Maryland v. King. Ruled today that law enforcement can take your DNA like they do your fingerprints and picture.

    http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files...ryland-v-king/
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    The SCOTUS has been off my Christmas card list since Roe vs. Wade. Well, I did send 'em a thank you note after they paved the way for GW to defeat algore. They got a +1 for that one.

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    Re: SCOTUS Thread

    SCOTUS was busy this week.

    (forgive me if I don't put the right terminology)

    1) Section 4 of Civil Rights Act ruled unconstitutional. Certain area (read: southern states) do not need Dept of Justice approval for changing things related to elections. DoJ has to challenge whatever rules are passed like they do everywhere else. Congress has to rewrite it.

    2) DOMA struck down (federal level).

    3) No direct ruling on California's Prop 8 (vacated and remanded) and therefore homosexual marriage. However, ruling essentially says that the lower courts' rulings (unconstitutional) stand. I know some are going to say it's all because of a technicality since the people challenging didn't have standing. Probably not over.
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    Re: SCOTUS Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    SCOTUS was busy this week.

    (forgive me if I don't put the right terminology)

    1) Section 4 of Civil Rights Act ruled unconstitutional. Certain area (read: southern states) do not need Dept of Justice approval for changing things related to elections. DoJ has to challenge whatever rules are passed like they do everywhere else. Congress has to rewrite it.

    2) DOMA struck down (federal level).

    3) No direct ruling on California's Prop 8 (vacated and remanded) and therefore homosexual marriage. However, ruling essentially says that the lower courts' rulings (unconstitutional) stand. I know some are going to say it's all because of a technicality since the people challenging didn't have standing. Probably not over.
    Along the lines of DOMA being stricken down:

    I guess this sums up the libs/dems love of chasing this agenda. It always comes down to votes and $$ for them. They really don't care about the issue at all just like they really never cared that their policies were hurting minorities for generations to come. It was only the votes and $$ for them that mattered.



    GODFATHER: 'Gays are the next Jews of fundraising'...

    By TIMOTHY P. CARNEY | JUNE 26, 2013 AT 11:20 AM

    While raising money for Bill Clinton (who signed the Defense of Marriage Act) in 1992, Rahm Emanuel proclaimed “Gays are the next Jews of fundraising.”
    I’m not 100 percent sure what he meant by that, but Democrats have certainly grabbed onto gay issues as a fundraising lever. Democrats today are using the gay marriage ruling as a way to raise money, my colleague Paul Bedard writes.
    Obama’s core network of fundraisers included many gay men and women who were also gay-marriage activists. I wrote on this after Obama spurred a fundraising boom by announcing his support for gay marriage.


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    Re: SCOTUS Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    Along the lines of DOMA being stricken down:

    I guess this sums up the libs/dems love of chasing this agenda. It always comes down to votes and $$ for them. They really don't care about the issue at all just like they really never cared that their policies were hurting minorities for generations to come. It was only the votes and $$ for them that mattered.

    GODFATHER: 'Gays are the next Jews of fundraising'...

    By TIMOTHY P. CARNEY | JUNE 26, 2013 AT 11:20 AM
    So, Rahm Emanuel said this in 1992--how does that signify that anyone is taking advantage of the SC's ruling via fundraising? I read the piece by Bedard, which was referred to in Carney's article--it includes a letter from Debbie Wasserman Schulz (of whom I am NO fan). Nowhere in the letter does it mention money, fundraising, financial support. Her letter was one of encouragement and gratitude that thanked activists for standing up for what they believe. The Bedard article is here:

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/articl...c11ehg.twitter

    Isn't it common for supporters of any movement, conservative or liberal, to do this sort of thing?

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    Re: SCOTUS Thread

    As an just example, Communism and socialism, and ways to implement them into our American way of life, have been around around a long time too.

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    Re: SCOTUS Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    As an just example, Communism and socialism, and ways to implement them into our American way of life, have been around around a long time too.
    Come on, Tyler. You responded to an irrelevant part of my post. You know the point was not that because something has existed, it should exist.

    The point was there's no evidence in the article you linked or the one referred to within that article that Democrats are using the SC rulings as a way to raise money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maverick View Post
    Come on, Tyler. You responded to an irrelevant part of my post. You know the point was not that because something has existed, it should exist.

    The point was there's no evidence in the article you linked or the one referred to within that article that Democrats are using the SC rulings as a way to raise money.
    In politics, asking people to sign up for something like this is asking for money. It's like all those other places that want you to sign up for things in order to sell directly to you or to sell to someone else to sell directly to you. You give them your information, then immediately money is asked of since it is the only thing that actually has a voice in this country.
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    Re: SCOTUS Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by maverick View Post
    Come on, Tyler. You responded to an irrelevant part of my post. You know the point was not that because something has existed, it should exist.

    The point was there's no evidence in the article you linked or the one referred to within that article that Democrats are using the SC rulings as a way to raise money.
    http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/showt...81#post1358381

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    Re: SCOTUS Thread

    Hobby Lobby won with a 5-4 vote. Almost exclusively applies to privately held companies, but I have not read anything that defines "closely held" specifically.

    Also ruled 5-4 that public sector unions are unable to collect fees from non-public employees that do not want to be a part of the union.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Hobby Lobby won with a 5-4 vote. Almost exclusively applies to privately held companies, but I have not read anything that defines "closely held" specifically.
    Since the Unaffordable Health Contriol Act is invalidly intertwined with tax law, the corporate tax definition of "closely held corporation" should apply.

    Closely held corporations. A corporation is closely held if all of the following apply.

    1. It is not a personal service corporation.
    2. At any time during the last half of the tax year, more than 50% of the value of its outstanding stock is, directly or indirectly, owned by or for five or fewer individuals. “Individual” includes certain trusts and private foundations.

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    Re: SCOTUS Thread

    Matt Walsh has good thoughts on this.

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    Re: SCOTUS Thread

    Except for the didn't go far enough bit, yeah, good commentary. Granted, I likely read more into that part than what he intends.
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    Re: SCOTUS Thread

    Don't need a reason to shop at Hobby Lobby, have always liked that store. My wife loves it! But, now, we will buy a little extra when there.....just because.

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    Re: SCOTUS Thread

    Didn't know they sold stuff in hobby lobby for men.

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