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    January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    The January meeting appears to be the deadline. If the entire "Select/Non-Select" debacle isn't fixed, you will see a split in the LHSAA with the privates and perhaps many others forming a new Association.

    The one thing I don't think many of the Non-Select Principals realize is the fact the money is going to follow the Selects in any split. Rather than charging realistic dues, the LHSAA has relied on corporate dollars to survive. They will be fighting to keep those dollars, and it's a fight they will not win.

    The money fight will have other consequences, as well - everything from local television to pay for game officials. In many areas of the state, the new Association will have complete control.

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    You've probably noticed that every press release from the LHSAA ends with "what's best for the LHSAA ." They don't make good business decisions. They make political decisions. Some, like the basketball playoff locations, are disguised as business decisions.

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    Who is the apparent leader of the "select" schools? John Curtis?

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    Who is the apparent leader of the "select" schools? John Curtis?
    I'd guess two of the most cash rich are Parkview and Calvary.

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    If the LHSAA stays intact, it is time to reduce the number of classes, particularly with the split of schools.

    There should be four non-select football classes, one non-select class for non-football schools, and three select divisions for all sports. As long as schools are allowed to elect to play up by one class.

    If a split occurs, the schools remaining in the LHSAA still need to play in four football classes and one non-football class.

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
    If the LHSAA stays intact, it is time to reduce the number of classes, particularly with the split of schools.

    There should be four non-select football classes, one non-select class for non-football schools, and three select divisions for all sports. As long as schools are allowed to elect to play up by one class.

    If a split occurs, the schools remaining in the LHSAA still need to play in four football classes and one non-football class.
    I think you've made this point before. It's spot on. More classifications = more playoffs games = more money to the LHSAA

    It never really made sense to go to to 5 football playing divisions.

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
    If the LHSAA stays intact, it is time to reduce the number of classes, particularly with the split of schools.

    There should be four non-select football classes, one non-select class for non-football schools, and three select divisions for all sports. As long as schools are allowed to elect to play up by one class.

    If a split occurs, the schools remaining in the LHSAA still need to play in four football classes and one non-football class.
    I doubt these principals would ever approve reducing the number of classes. They think everybody should win a state championship.

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    The January meeting appears to be the deadline. If the entire "Select/Non-Select" debacle isn't fixed, you will see a split in the LHSAA with the privates and perhaps many others forming a new Association.

    The one thing I don't think many of the Non-Select Principals realize is the fact the money is going to follow the Selects in any split. Rather than charging realistic dues, the LHSAA has relied on corporate dollars to survive. They will be fighting to keep those dollars, and it's a fight they will not win.

    The money fight will have other consequences, as well - everything from local television to pay for game officials. In many areas of the state, the new Association will have complete control.
    LHSAA has tried hard to keep the money while shunning some of their biggest schools. You are exactly right that they will lose the money fight, and it's not just the corporate dollars they will be losing.

    If you look at the structure they are trying to impose, the select schools will still play the non-select schools during the regular season. That's because the select schools are worth watching and they don't want to lose ticket revenue at the gate, so they are trying to keep the money from the regular season, but still win some kind of trophy at the end. This is ridiculously poor leadership and they are going to get what they deserve when the split happens.

    It is only a matter of time until the select schools split - if not this year, then next. The only thing that can stop all of this is if the state legislature gets involved (which they always do) and makes everyone hug it out. But, that would require some pain. Current officials would have to step down and recently passed rules would have to be rescinded. Not sure how that would work out.

    When the split happens, I would not be surprised to see some non-select schools petition to play in the new select league, because they will probably see the writing on the wall. LHSAA will basically be the JV league with lots of trophies to hand out.

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    I doubt these principals would ever approve reducing the number of classes. They think everybody should win a state championship.
    They won't have a choice because the numbers after the split demand it. Five football classes barely made sense with selects and non-select together. It makes no sense to have nine football champions spread over just barely more schools than are in Texas 5A alone (with just two champions).

    Class C schools are going away on their own with consolidation, so one non-football class is inevitable.

    I still think a better plan overall would have been to reduce total football classes from five to four but have two champions with large and small school divisions in each class similar to the way Texas does it. And all of the current select schools could have been required to be placed in the large school bracket or have an enrollment multiplier for selects to give the non-selects the chance this ill-conceived new plan was designed to create.

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
    all of the current select schools could have been required to be placed in the large school bracket or have an enrollment multiplier for selects to give the non-selects the chance this ill-conceived new plan was designed to create.
    Some of the large schools have cried the loudest about the privates. Primarily West Monroe.

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg06 View Post
    Who is the apparent leader of the "select" schools? John Curtis?
    Mike Boyer - Principal at Teurlings Catholic in Lafayette for the past 10 or so years. Long-time asst. coach and asst. principal in the 70s, 80s, and 90s at Catholic High - Pointe Coupee and at St. Thomas More in Lafayette.

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    Quote Originally Posted by The Historian View Post
    Mike Boyer - Principal at Teurlings Catholic in Lafayette for the past 10 or so years. Long-time asst. coach and asst. principal in the 70s, 80s, and 90s at Catholic High - Pointe Coupee and at St. Thomas More in Lafayette.
    I went to high school with Mike, he was a heck of a miler back in the day. In the summer of 1975, I would have never dreamed that Mike would be a Catholic school principal.

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    Re: January, 2014 LHSAA Meeting is the deadline

    Rummel has a $100 million+ endowment. Granted it's not really intended for athletics, although, of course, some is used there now. But, if money is needed to start a new association, ditching the stupid LHSAA for good, Rummel can contribute and hold up its end. I also agree that many of the non-selects would want to join the new association, provided they are "legally" allowed to.

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