That most probably handed the election to Trump.Originally Posted by techman05
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That most probably handed the election to Trump.
You imply there were some undecided voters at that point. There were none. Blacks were never going to vote for her and the reopening had nothing to do with that.
If that's the case, it simply demonstrates just how big a dumbass Comey is. Enough American voters finally woke up to the fact that under the Obama administration, the entire top management of the FBI was corrupt to its core. People have faced firing squads for lesser crimes than those committed by Comey and his cronies.
It was the only thing that gave me pause in voting for HRC when we did the early voting. It was a big deal at a time when people were actually voting.
If I were any less convinced that I needed to try to stop Trump I probably would have voted third party.
And here is some pre-election forecasting corroborating that others were influenced.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethi...s-chances/amp/
“When FBI Director James Comey told Congress on Oct. 28 that he was reviewing additional emails pertinent to the case of Hillary Clinton’s email server, Clinton had an 81 percent chance of winning the election according to our polls-only forecast. Today, her chances are 65 percent according to the same forecast. The change corresponds with Clinton’s drop in the national popular-vote lead: from a 5.7-percentage-point lead in our estimate on Oct. 28 to a 2.9-point lead now — so a swing of about 3 points against her.“
Who were these voters who learned of Clinton's horrible traits from Comey's reopening? Third party votes did not do her in. Blacks didn't like her and union vote turned against her. Both were a given before the reopening.
They were 3% that were picked up in the polling (as discussed in the Nov 6 article I linked above). Probably included some people like me who already didn’t like her but disliked Trump even more.
A candidate being under investigation is kind of a big deal.
Hillary had quite a few things break against her, and when the results are as close as they were, any single one of them can be a “but for” cause. You can choose any of - Comey, Black vote, Russia, racists, xenophobia, and they are all correct.
Whatever the reason(s) THANK GOD Krooked Killary is not POTUS!!
But, I'll weigh in on this....
Killary was a horrible candidate. That's because she's a horrible person, and many voters know it. Did Killary "lose" the election more than Trump "won" it? Probably so. It's like a football team that fumbles away scoring chances, while at the same time fumbling inside it's own 10 giving the other team easy TDs. Killary fumbled away the presidency, but she was also a weak candidate. Everyone who follows national politics knew she was very beatable. However, I think she would have won had the Repubs trotted out their typical RINO, like John McCain, or in this case, Kasich or Rubio, or the more polarizing Ted Cruz.
What many missed then, is still being missed by the lamestream media, the 'craps, and others, including the Repubs, is Trump is a populist and his "base" is not rooted strictly in either party. His "base" comes from BOTH the Repub and 'crap traditional "bases." And, more importantly, what is still being missed, his "base" is growing. Again, coming from both parties.
Now...Trump and his team missed, and are still missing, something too. A big part of his support in 2016 was an anti-Killary vote, which he won't have in 2020. If Trump hopes to be re-elected he has work to do. The 2020 campaign will be about him and his four years in office.
It wasn't with her. The only voters who knew about it watched Fox News and listened to conservative radio. None of the left wing media outlets gave it the time of day. It didn't matter.
Or her calling people deplorables or her having to be helped into her SUV (and the attempts to cover it up by her and the rest of the media outlets), or the facts of the e-mail including the destruction of evidence that she laughed off case that made it look like she was being given preferential treatment by the Obama justice department (she was), or the fact that she perpetuated the Youtube video lie about the nature of the attack in Benghazi (even to the victims' families), or many, many of the things SHE did to show she was not worthy of the support of the thinking portion of the American people.
How would you know? I knew about it and I don’t follow conservative news. This was covered by all mainstream media.
You are well read and informed even though y'all were voting hate instead of brains. So are her yellow dog voters. The votes she needed to put her over the top had already decided not to vote for her. Blacks mainly, but the Cuban vote also helped Trump carry Florida. Throw in the union vote, which was one of of the first groups to leave her and it was never close.
You and the obese heifer are STILL looking for somebody to blame other than her.
I don’t need to look for anyone to blame. I blame the people that thought Trump was worthy of a vote.You are well read and informed even though y'all were voting hate instead of brains. So are her yellow dog voters. The votes she needed to put her over the top had already decided not to vote for her. Blacks mainly, but the Cuban vote also helped Trump carry Florida. Throw in the union vote, which was one of of the first groups to leave her and it was never close.
You and the obese heifer are STILL looking for somebody to blame other than her.
And you ignore that the polling actually showed a shift in her support and probability of winning immediately following the announcement of the reopening of the investigation.
Ha! Hate instead of brains I s how Trump win the nomination!
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