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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    Louisiana Tech University doesn't need ANY help from the evil empire. If you dance with the Devil, you'll either get burned or wake up in hell.

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    Perhaps, but da debil has da powr.

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    IF something is stirred regarding this issue, it will be because several regular posters here on BBB encouraged local media and funished local media with the tools they needed to write a story and investigate this matter.

    No thanks to any of the other UL System schools or their affiliates.

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    Quote Originally Posted by RougeDawg View Post
    Pathetic. ULM has the MOST to lose by letting ULL take over that name . . . and the majority don't care or want to go back to NLU. I really underestimated the ignorance over there.
    Could that actually be a good thing? Wasn't there a legal requirement that in order for USL to change their name to ULL, they would have to get a partner? If ULM went back to NLU, I wonder how that would play out.

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    It does not matter that apparently the University of Louisiana at Lafayette supporters have trouble reading English. They still have to abide by the Laws of the State of Louisiana, which are very clear in this matter.

    They apparently think it is ok to use it for athletic purposes, but it is clearly stated in the law, that they can not use it for athletics or with any other organization affiliated with the university.

    I will bold the relevant parts of the law, since it is so difficult for them to read English.

    An easy way to stop them from trying to pull this farce of making it appear that they are the flagship school of the University of Louisiana System is to charge any employee of the University of Louisiana at Lafayette that approves spending of state money on items that does not meet the naming guidelines with misappropriation of state funds.



    III. University and System Name Guidelines

    All institutions within the University of Louisiana System are to comply with the
    following precepts and guidelines set forth to govern and coordinate the use of the University of Louisiana name and logo:

    A. As previously stated, there is no main campus for the University of Louisiana
    System. Any designation of or reference to a member institution as “flagship,”
    “lead,” “main,” or other similar descriptor is prohibited.

    NAME CHANGE POLICIES AND GUIDELINES

    B. The use of the University of Louisiana System logo and/or the phrase “University of
    Louisiana System” by an institution for commercial purposes or general use must
    have prior approval by the Board of Supervisors for the University of Louisiana
    System.

    C. The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the
    phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations (alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic, public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University of Louisiana at Rayne.

    D. All uses of the name “University of Louisiana” must be followed by the word “at”
    and the institution’s geographic location. No typographic variations within the name
    are permitted. The word “at” must be no less than 50% and the geographic location
    must not exceed 100% nor be less than 80% of the University of Louisiana name.
    Any institutional use of “University of Louisiana” without the “at” and geographic location is prohibited.

    E. All institutions, whether or not their names are changed to the University of
    Louisiana designation, must use the wording “A Member of the University of
    Louisiana System” prominently on all stationery as well as on title pages of
    university/college catalogs, magazines, newspapers, and journals.

    F. Any adaptation of the University of Louisiana System logo and seal to university use
    must be reviewed and approved prior to their use by the System office and the Board.

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    Don't ya' love how they "excuse" their use by using the FLAGSHIP of other university systems to "justify" their use as being okay?

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    Quote Originally Posted by JuBru View Post
    Don't ya' love how they "excuse" their use by using the FLAGSHIP of other university systems to "justify" their use as being okay?
    But ULL isn't trying to become a flagship university. Their posters said so on the Facebook link, and those people would never lie.

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    Here are some questions I have about the ULL situation:

    Why can't/don't Presidents of the other University of Louisiana institutions end ULL's attempt at name change?

    Have they been silent? I haven't heard anything, but there may have been some discussion.

    Have they been silenced? If so, who and why?

    What's going on at the Presidential level to end the ULL attempt at name change?

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    The presidents answer to the Board of Supervisors. There have been no discussions on any minutes I have read back through.

    Not holding my breath just yet for this to get on an agenda.

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    Quote Originally Posted by rlmiddle View Post
    Any institutional use of “University of Louisiana” without the “at” and geographic location is prohibited.
    From what I understand they have changed their tune ever so slightly. They want to be referred to "athletically" as "Louisiana" not "University of Louisiana". However, I'm sure they wouldn't mind if some called them that too :icon_wink: That is how they plan to skirt they law and take "University of Louisiana", kind of a preception is reality thing.

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    The essence of deception.
    Louisiana Tech University
    Flagship of the University of Louisiana System

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    Quote Originally Posted by RealityCheck View Post
    The presidents answer to the Board of Supervisors. There have been no discussions on any minutes I have read back through.

    Not holding my breath just yet for this to get on an agenda.
    Silence gives consent.

    The silence of the entire system from the Governor's appointed Board of Supervisors and the other ULS presidents is giving consent to the deception.

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    Quote Originally Posted by rlmiddle View Post
    It does not matter that apparently the University of Louisiana at Lafayette supporters have trouble reading English. They still have to abide by the Laws of the State of Louisiana, which are very clear in this matter.

    They apparently think it is ok to use it for athletic purposes, but it is clearly stated in the law, that they can not use it for athletics or with any other organization affiliated with the university.

    I will bold the relevant parts of the law, since it is so difficult for them to read English.

    An easy way to stop them from trying to pull this farce of making it appear that they are the flagship school of the University of Louisiana System is to charge any employee of the University of Louisiana at Lafayette that approves spending of state money on items that does not meet the naming guidelines with misappropriation of state funds.



    III. University and System Name Guidelines

    All institutions within the University of Louisiana System are to comply with the
    following precepts and guidelines set forth to govern and coordinate the use of the University of Louisiana name and logo:

    A. As previously stated, there is no main campus for the University of Louisiana
    System. Any designation of or reference to a member institution as “flagship,”
    “lead,” “main,” or other similar descriptor is prohibited.

    NAME CHANGE POLICIES AND GUIDELINES

    B. The use of the University of Louisiana System logo and/or the phrase “University of
    Louisiana System” by an institution for commercial purposes or general use must
    have prior approval by the Board of Supervisors for the University of Louisiana
    System.

    C. The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the
    phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations (alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic, public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University of Louisiana at Rayne.

    D. All uses of the name “University of Louisiana” must be followed by the word “at”
    and the institution’s geographic location. No typographic variations within the name
    are permitted. The word “at” must be no less than 50% and the geographic location
    must not exceed 100% nor be less than 80% of the University of Louisiana name.
    Any institutional use of “University of Louisiana” without the “at” and geographic location is prohibited.

    E. All institutions, whether or not their names are changed to the University of
    Louisiana designation, must use the wording “A Member of the University of
    Louisiana System” prominently on all stationery as well as on title pages of
    university/college catalogs, magazines, newspapers, and journals.

    F. Any adaptation of the University of Louisiana System logo and seal to university use
    must be reviewed and approved prior to their use by the System office and the Board.
    This may explain why ULL supporters have trouble reading English...

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    Quote Originally Posted by rabiddawg View Post
    From what I understand they have changed their tune ever so slightly. They want to be referred to "athletically" as "Louisiana" not "University of Louisiana". However, I'm sure they wouldn't mind if some called them that too :icon_wink: That is how they plan to skirt they law and take "University of Louisiana", kind of a preception is reality thing.
    That's just what they say when called out. Otherwise, in every publication, school anythings, etc. they constantly refer to themselves as University of Louisiana and have told people to always refer to them as that.

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    Re: News Star Asking for Input on Name Grab

    They're trying to argue the letter of the law-Does not specifically prohibit use of just Louisiana (ala Louisiana Ragin Cajuns) just UL, U of L, or University of Louisiana... The spirit of the law is quite clear though and if it is brought up to the board they're going to get smacked down...

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