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    Where are our USF Friends?

    Were they ever right! Oh my....left a little damage there to fix too!

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    Good luck with good ole' Coach Skippy. He will make poor decisions that will leave you scratching your head, talk about how well the team "competed", and will leave you wondering why you are fielding a high school team in 4 years.

    He has left USF in shambles. The guy couldn't recruit in Florida...FLORIDA!!! Good luck to you guys. He was the Coach Kragthorpe for our program. If you don't know who he is, look him up. He was at Louisville before Charlie Strong.

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    Hopefully we'll get him out of here at the end of the year!! Saw part of your game today and you did have my sympathies....and inspire additional concern for the state of our program....or what remains of it!

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    Re: Where are our USF Friends?

    Kragthorpe did a nice job at Tulsa, fwiw.

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    I am really sorry for you guys. Last year you had an exciting good team, now you have a coach who plays it conservatively and has a goal of keeping it close to win by 1 score.

    I know some of you are thinking that you have a dearth of talent left from previous years but as another Bull has already posted Holtz was a worse recruiter for us than he was a coach.

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    Hopefully Holtz will allow his staff to help him recruit here. It's a shame he took it all upon himself at USF. And if they helped him recruit, I hope he didn't bring any of them with him to Tech.

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    Re: Where are our USF Friends?

    he couldn't recruit in Florida! Florida!


    UM MAYBE BECAUSE HE COACHED AT A LOSER SCHOOL? Skip's worst decision EVER was taking the USF job. That is a dead end job with the pressure to break through just because it's in Florida. The same was we view FAU/FIU, everyone else views USF. No one wants to go there. No one wants to play there. They're only hyped because they're in a metro market and... in Florida... where Big East teams wanted to recruit.

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    Re: Where are our USF Friends?

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgGoneMad View Post
    he couldn't recruit in Florida! Florida!


    UM MAYBE BECAUSE HE COACHED AT A LOSER SCHOOL? Skip's worst decision EVER was taking the USF job. That is a dead end job with the pressure to break through just because it's in Florida. The same was we view FAU/FIU, everyone else views USF. No one wants to go there. No one wants to play there. They're only hyped because they're in a metro market and... in Florida... where Big East teams wanted to recruit.
    Jim Leavitt won there

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    Fluke

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    Re: Where are our USF Friends?

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgGoneMad View Post
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    How so?? Elaborate please.

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    Re: Where are our USF Friends?

    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoke1977 View Post
    How so?? Elaborate please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoke1977 View Post
    How so?? Elaborate please.
    Hometown hero returns to build a program for scratch - in a major metro area with money in a state with recruits. Same thing happening at UTSA. It's hype based on speculation. It pays off for a little while but you can't sustain it. And it never was much to begin with! What, they cracked the top 25 and played in a few bad bowl games? They played in a conference we all trashed --- the Big Least. Then he strikes a player, revealing cracks in the armor, and you expect a new coach to come in and build on that? USF is USF. It is what it is. The tide was right and Leavitt rode it. Did he win a national championship? did he play in a bcs bowl? How was he so successful?

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    Re: Where are our USF Friends?

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgGoneMad View Post
    Hometown hero returns to build a program for scratch - in a major metro area with money in a state with recruits. Same thing happening at UTSA. It's hype based on speculation. It pays off for a little while but you can't sustain it. And it never was much to begin with! What, they cracked the top 25 and played in a few bad bowl games? They played in a conference we all trashed --- the Big Least. Then he strikes a player, revealing cracks in the armor, and you expect a new coach to come in and build on that? USF is USF. It is what it is. The tide was right and Leavitt rode it. Did he win a national championship? did he play in a bcs bowl? How was he so successful?
    His career record there was 95-57. Had a team ranked as high as # 2 in the nation. South Florida's ascension into the top 25 from entry into I-A/FCS is the fastest in NCAA history. That sounds fairly successful to me.

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    Re: Where are our USF Friends?

    Quote Originally Posted by DawgGoneMad View Post
    Did he win a national championship? did he play in a bcs bowl? How was he so successful?
    If that is how success is defined in college football then the majority of coaches and teams have never had it.

    The army game was a pivotal game for us. Had we won we could have saved our season and went to a "unsuccessful" bowl game. Now it's looking dire for us this season. I say we cut our losses now and find a new head coach.
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    Re: Where are our USF Friends?

    Since we are comparing Holtz and Leavitt, an overview of their careers is in order.


    Jim Leavitt was at USF for 13 years (4 as I-AA) and only two losing seasons, one of them the first year of the program. Three wins in five bowls games. 0 conference championships.
    Skp Holtz coached 13 years (three schools, 5 as I-AA) with five losing seasons. Two wins in six bowl games. 3 conference championships.

    As stated Leavitt's career record was 95-57.
    Holtz's (before this season) was 88-71.

    To me, Leavitt either did more with similar resources as compared to Holtz, or he was able to get those kids to come to USF that Holtz could not. Either way, not a flattering picture...

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