One step closer:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/26/us/nor...html?hpt=hp_t2
Personally, I do not think it will happen, but you never know...
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One step closer:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/26/us/nor...html?hpt=hp_t2
Personally, I do not think it will happen, but you never know...
Yikes.
All but the pay, I agree with. Unionizing is not the way, though, in my opinion.
The athletes have said they're seeking better medical coverage, concussion testing, four-year scholarships and the possibility of being paid.
Can't you just see the players walking out right before a game?!
Like Grambling did?Originally Posted by Docman5
Good thing the NLRB has no jurisdiction over Louisiana Tech and any other governmental organization.
Wonder if the idiots at Northwestern are ready to pay income tax, medicare tax and social security on that in-kind scholarship money.
NCAA tweeted that they don't agree with unions as they do not view the students as employees.
Unions are composed of employees.
Employees by definition are professionals.
Professionals by definition are ineligible to participate in college athletics under current NCAA rules.
I have some issues with the NCAA but players unionizing will ruin college football and college sports in general. Once they are in a union, only the large state schools will keep sports. They will have to get rid of title 9 for women's sports and most men's sports outside of football and basketball will be non-scholarship. If athletes are considered employee's the costs skyrocket. 15% just for social security and Medicare taxes add unemployment tax, income tax withholding and health and workers comp insurance the cost go up another 30%.
This is crap. Parents currently must report the value of the scholarship 1099r on their federal tax returns for living and other expenses paid via the scholarship. Cost me 1200 bucks this year.
Instead of a union, Make each athlete a independent contractor and pay the scholarship and living expense and some additional funds and 1099 them. The athlete would have to pay income and self employment tax. This would also allow a player to switch schools without the stupid 1 year penalty in any right to work state. The NCAA would no longer be the governing body which I think is a good thing.
Hell, the players wouldn't even have to take classes. Once they are employees, they will be treated the same as the grounds keeper employed by the school.
I concur. Although I would think they get better medical care while they are on the team than the general population as a whole. The school provides 24/7 medical care for them, right?
Bill is right, if they unionize and get paid, watch for all of their benefits to get taxed, including the scholarships. Or they can get paid $20K/year and pay for college out of pocket. See how they like that. This whole idea is fraught with unintended consequences. The private schools, possibly including ND, may decide to drop big time sports all together as mentioned in the article. A lot of other schools may decide to do so as well. Will FB and BB players get the same pay? Will the pay scale be standardized or will Bama and Texas pay $50K a year while Oklahoma State and Ole Miss only pay $25K? Will the women get the same pay as men? What about striking at halftime? Before a bowl game? The NC game? A whole lot of unknowns here. Definitely a case of being careful of what you ask for!
Again, I do not think this is going to happen, but then I never thought a "big time" football school would hire a coach coming off a 4-8 season either....
Don't forget that union dues will need to be paid by the players!!
And speaking of union dues... What union will represent?? And will they be school or state specific, conference specific, or represent the entire league?.. We thought Grambling going on strike made ripples in the pond... Imagine a complete league strike during championship bowls or other high profile games??? What a mess this will create!!
Let them form a minor league in football just like baseball has. The ones that don't want to go to college can go minor league and have their union. The others can go to college on a scholarship just like they do now and no union. Can't you see the team union agent arguing with the coach on the field. Is anybody surprised that this came out of Chicago?
You raise several great points, hook. If a kid's 50K athletic scholarship is considered "pay" or "income", then it will ultimately be subject to income taxes. How's an 18-year old kid going to pay the $10,000 federal income tax bill? Furthermore, how could athletic scholarships be deemed "income", and the same thing not happen to academic scholarships? Surely you can't tax one scholarship without taxing them all.
As you stated, the unintended consequences of this act reach far and wide.
I predict this will die a quick and quiet death as soon as a grown-up gets involved.
Staples seems to think some sort of change is coming:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/col...ern/?eref=sihp
Currently tuition and certain fees are exempt in the tax code. However, room and board, food and books are considered taxable income to the athletes parents. The college will send a 1099 for non-exempt items and it adds to your parents total income.
State schools players will be considered state employees and eligible for pensions offered by the states.
Title 9 that mandates women's sports and mens non-revenue sports will have to be reviewed and possibly cancelled.
I know Obama is trying his hardest to create jobs, ha ha, but this may be the only jobs created while he is president.
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