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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    More specifically, keep the "teaching" hospitals. The "charity system hospitals" should go away. Every "non-profit" hospital/hospital service district/critical access hospital/PPS hospital in the state provides charity care and has a charity policy and sliding fee scale policy in place to govern it...though most of them need significant tweeting.

    *edit: "tweeting" is apparently the new autocorrect form of "tweaking." And I appreciate it not changing to "twerking."
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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    Why does Louisiana, or any state, need "state" hospitals? They should all be in the private sector.

    Yes, we have too many universities in Louisiana. Grambling and Southern should both be closed. Have had this discussion many times on this forum. And by "closed" I mean phased out. Current upperclassman, Jrs and Srs, should be allowed to graduate with a GSU and SU diploma. At the same time, both universities should be immediately folded into a nearby school.....GSU into Tech, SU into LSU. And etc....

    Also, duplication of programs should be phased out, where practical. Lesser schools should have their mission changed to focus on undergraduate programs, on two tracks: 1) student development, for those seeking to achieve Master's degrees and beyond, and 2) workforce development, for those wishing to enter the workforce with a bachelor's in hand.

    Then the better universities in the state.... no need to name 'em .... will have more resources to develop advanced programs of study, at both the undergrad and graduate levels.
    I would merge:
    ULL and McNeese (boy, wouldn't they fight that!)
    SUNO shut down
    UNO merge with some of the junior colleges and small colleges in New Orleans (Delgato, etc..)
    All the satellite campuses of lsu should be shut down or merged with a nearby university
    Make Northwestern a music and arts school (re-named Northwestern School of Arts)
    Make ULM a Pharmacy school (re-named Louisiana Monroe School of Pharmacy)
    Keep Southeastern - just because I can't figure out what else to do with them and they are large.
    The HBCU's are difficult and we have to acknowledge that. It is political suicide to close them down completely. Put Grambling with Tech and Southern with lsu, but let them keep their name. In other words, merge but have a campus. No President, but a Dean that serves under the President of Tech and lsu. Merge the rest of the administration. The diploma would state:
    "Grambling University"
    a division of Louisiana Tech University
    Sports and bands would be a problem, unless we could get REAL creative and let them keep those. There are ways....

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    Quote Originally Posted by champion110 View Post
    Put Grambling with Tech...


    BAD BAD BAD idea, Grambling has protection and gets away with things that if Tech were responsible for them would result in major fines and/or losing accreditation. I've heard horror stories of what state auditors have found (or haven't been able to find) there and they were basically told to downplay it because it was Grambling... No thank you let them keep on trucking, we'll take LSUS and LSUSHSC and move along.

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    Quote Originally Posted by GermDawg View Post


    BAD BAD BAD idea, Grambling has protection and gets away with things that if Tech were responsible for them would result in major fines and/or losing accreditation. I've heard horror stories of what state auditors have found (or haven't been able to find) there and they were basically told to downplay it because it was Grambling... No thank you let them keep on trucking, we'll take LSUS and LSUSHSC and move along.
    Well, obviously, with the administration at Tech, they wouldn't be doing that anymore. They couldn't. It would cut out all the waste.

    Yes, when I stated that all the lsu satellite's need to be merged or shut down, that would mean lsus and lsuHSC with Tech.

    One administration and several campuses with a Dean. All administration centralized at Tech.

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmDawg View Post
    More specifically, keep the "teaching" hospitals. The "charity system hospitals" should go away. Every "non-profit" hospital/hospital service district/critical access hospital/PPS hospital in the state provides charity care and has a charity policy and sliding fee scale policy in place to govern it...though most of them need significant tweeting.
    You're saying they should spend a lot of time on Twitter? :icon_wink:

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    You're saying they should spend a lot of time on Twitter? :icon_wink:
    thank you sir.


    They do in fact spend too much time on it, and Facebook, and general surfing.

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    Is Louisiana Tech in a better or worse position to execute its mission after facing budget cut after budget cut?

    I think there are about 12 folks that are pro-Jindal in the boot. Nice to see one show up in this thread.

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    Quote Originally Posted by turbodawg View Post
    Is Louisiana Tech in a better or worse position to execute its mission after facing budget cut after budget cut?

    I think there are about 12 folks that are pro-Jindal in the boot. Nice to see one show up in this thread.
    Better, compared to our competition ULM, ULL and LSUx's were staying fat and happy at the state hog-trough, not so much now that they're expected to perform and have worthwhile results. Meanwhile Tech has taken full advantage of the new legislation and while yes the leaner budget has been tough we were prepared and are leaner & meaner.

    It's funny cause most on here were pro-Jindal when he came in and even when he got re-elected; he's done more for business in this state trying to stop the brain/money-drain to Houston/Dallas.

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    These numbers were sent to me today. They probably have been posted before, but they are so astounding they merit a repost. It is easy to see where the cuts in higher ed should be. Nothing more needs to be said:

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    It's time to close the doors to the Temple of Janus.

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    More needs to be said.

    I notice, generally speaking, the private schools out-perform public ones. There's a revelation for ya......NOT! The private sector trumps gov-mint run entities.

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    More needs to be said.

    I notice, generally speaking, the private schools out-perform public ones. There's a revelation for ya......NOT! The private sector trumps gov-mint run entities.
    Abolish or diminish funding to Tech? I hope not!

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    the private schools out-perform public ones.
    I don't think you can make that argument based on that graph. It seems to me that graph would say that private schools do a better job of recruiting students with higher ACT scores. Or maybe you could say that private schools do a better job of not letting in students with low ACT scores.

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    Quote Originally Posted by DrDawg View Post
    I don't think you can make that argument based on that graph. It seems to me that graph would say that private schools do a better job of recruiting students with higher ACT scores. Or maybe you could say that private schools do a better job of not letting in students with low ACT scores.
    All it confirms is that schools with complete or partial selective admissions will almost always report higher average standardized test scores for incoming students than those with limited or no selective admissions.

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    Re: Cuts to state higher ed funding

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg80 View Post
    More needs to be said.

    I notice, generally speaking, the private schools out-perform public ones. There's a revelation for ya......NOT! The private sector trumps gov-mint run entities.
    ACT scores aren't a measure of the academic performance of colleges or universities.

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