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    First Glance - OU

    Some initial thoughts on OU from Mandel:


    I see Oklahoma in the top five of most ultra-early polls. As we've learned in the past, it's often a mistake to set expectations for the upcoming season based on the bowl game from the previous one. Trevor Knight threw for 350 yards and four touchdowns against Alabama, but shouldn't we consider the rest of his stats from last year? In non-Sugar Bowl games, Knight went 47-of-90 with five scores and four interceptions. Does Oklahoma's top-five status hinge on Knight's ability to consistently play like he did in the Sugar Bowl? If so, how confident are you that he's the Sugar Bowl quarterback and not the regular-season one?
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    Yep, as soon as those first way-too-early polls started coming out in January, it was clear that Oklahoma was getting this year's honorary 2012 West Virginia status as the team with expectations unduly propped up by its bowl performance. When I saw the Sporting News ranked the Sooners as its preseason No. 1, I winced. Recently, when Bob Stoops' team is pumped up as a preseason national-title favorite, it flops. (See '09 and '11, in particular.) On the rare occasion it's overlooked (last season), however, it surprises us.


    Of course, the end result is usually the same: The Sooners win between 10 and 12 games, with a Big 12 title about every other year. But those unfulfilled preseason No. 1 rankings give off the perception that Oklahoma is not delivering on its potential when, in fact, the Sooners are doing quite well. I fear that might be the case for Stoops and his team again in '14.


    Don't get me wrong: I think Oklahoma will be very good. And the primary reason is not Knight, it's the Sooners' defense. After several seasons of falling well below its previous standard, a largely inexperienced unit delivered some big moments last fall. Those included a defense-driven 35-21 win at Notre Dame on Sept. 28, a deceiving 41-12 loss at Baylor on Nov. 7 -- when Oklahoma limited Bryce Petty and the Bears for much of the night -- and the season-ending 33-24 upset win over Oklahoma State on Dec. 7 that sealed the Sooners' BCS berth. Oklahoma had the Big 12's second-ranked scoring defense (22.1 points per game), which is all the more reason that the 45-31 bowl shootout victory over Alabama was uncharacteristic. Fast forward to this season and the Sooners should be even better on that side of the ball. They have a bunch of guys who can get to the quarterback, most notably linebacker Eric Striker and defensive end Charles Tapper. They also have a budding star in sophomore cornerback Zack Sanchez.


    Still, I'm as curious as the rest of you to see which version of Knight takes the field this fall. Anyone capable of putting up those numbers against the Crimson Tide's defense is pretty talented. But that was also a 'Bama group that struggled against the pass all season and was playing in a de facto consolation game. My guess? Knight will perform somewhere between the two extremes. However, he has virtually no proven playmakers around him.


    If Oklahoma's defense goes from improved to dominant, then maybe it will live up to its lofty hype. But it takes a pretty big leap of faith in May to predict a team that has not been national-title caliber in six years will be better than Florida State, Auburn and Alabama.

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    Re: First Glance - OU

    What OU is don't matter. Get out the KY cause we gonna get that ass beat. Might as well start previewing ULL, that games matters 1,000,000x more than the OU thrashing.

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    Re: First Glance - OU

    Whoever scheduled this game deserves to be horse whipped. I've never liked OU coach Bob Stoops anyway, because he'll beat you 100-0 if he can. He will show no mercy towards LA Tech. And in 2014, Stoops appears to have one of his best teams in many years coming back.

    The 2014 Bulldogs better grow up FAST! No excuses. You scheduled 'em. You better compete.

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    damn guys have a little faith. I'm hoping to see us pull an Appalachian State on them which would be a much needed morale boost for the program right now. Lets go dawgs!

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    Re: First Glance - OU

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg gone it View Post
    damn guys have a little faith. I'm hoping to see us pull an Appalachian State on them which would be a much needed morale boost for the program right now. Lets go dawgs!
    Our football program is supposed to be long PAST "Appalachian St" status in a game like this. That's an embarrassing comparison. We're not a FCS program. We've been playing the highest level of football the NCAA offers for the last 25 years. We should be well past needing to round up "a little faith". We should have "big boy" athletes by now that can punch OU in the mouth and make a serous game of this. Again, these are things we SHOULD be able to do.

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    Re: First Glance - OU

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Our football program is supposed to be long PAST "Appalachian St" status in a game like this. That's an embarrassing comparison. We're not a FCS program. We've been playing the highest level of football the NCAA offers for the last 25 years. We should be well past needing to round up "a little faith". We should have "big boy" athletes by now that can punch OU in the mouth and make a serous game of this. Again, these are things we SHOULD be able to do.
    Amen!

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    Re: First Glance - OU

    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Our football program is supposed to be long PAST "Appalachian St" status in a game like this. That's an embarrassing comparison. We're not a FCS program. We've been playing the highest level of football the NCAA offers for the last 25 years. We should be well past needing to round up "a little faith". We should have "big boy" athletes by now that can punch OU in the mouth and make a serous game of this. Again, these are things we SHOULD be able to do.
    Post of the Year. Green for you sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    Our football program is supposed to be long PAST "Appalachian St" status in a game like this. That's an embarrassing comparison. We're not a FCS program. We've been playing the highest level of football the NCAA offers for the last 25 years. We should be well past needing to round up "a little faith". We should have "big boy" athletes by now that can punch OU in the mouth and make a serous game of this. Again, these are things we SHOULD be able to do.
    Calm down I'm not calling us a FCS program. I'm comparing it because that too was a game where everyone thought the power house team was gonna dominate the smaller school and they clearly looked over them in the Week 1 match up. If there is another similar week one upset that'll make you feel better than by all means share it. I don't get why more people get bashed on this site for being optimistic about our team rather than the ones that do nothing but complain and down talk our program

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawg gone it View Post
    Calm down I'm not calling us a FCS program. I'm comparing it because that too was a game where everyone thought the power house team was gonna dominate the smaller school and they clearly looked over them in the Week 1 match up. If there is another similar week one upset that'll make you feel better than by all means share it. I don't get why more people get bashed on this site for being optimistic about our team rather than the ones that do nothing but complain and down talk our program
    It is called groupthink (I prefer groupstink), lemmingitus, etc. Don't be concerned. I think most folk understand your premise.

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    Re: First Glance - OU

    Quote Originally Posted by dawg gone it View Post
    Calm down I'm not calling us a FCS program. I'm comparing it because that too was a game where everyone thought the power house team was gonna dominate the smaller school and they clearly looked over them in the Week 1 match up. If there is another similar week one upset that'll make you feel better than by all means share it. I don't get why more people get bashed on this site for being optimistic about our team rather than the ones that do nothing but complain and down talk our program
    It's really not about you. It's called "disappointment". LA Tech has been doing this long enough that we should NEVER feel totally outclassed like we are right now. Fact is, we sucked last season --unnecessarily-- and we've got to scratch and claw our way back to respectability. But we're not there yet, and everybody with half a brain knows it.

    Well founded optimism is a beautiful thing. Foolish optimism is quite another. And the fact that we're still playing "David" to somebody else's Goliath after 25 years of FBS football is really disappointing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HogDawg View Post
    It's really not about you. It's called "disappointment". LA Tech has been doing this long enough that we should NEVER feel totally outclassed like we are right now. Fact is, we sucked last season --unnecessarily-- and we've got to scratch and claw our way back to respectability. But we're not there yet, and everybody with half a brain knows it.

    Well founded optimism is a beautiful thing. Foolish optimism is quite another. And the fact that we're still playing "David" to somebody else's Goliath after 25 years of FBS football is really disappointing.
    You think we should be at OU's level consistently? That's going to take a lot more money, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    You think we should be at OU's level consistently? That's going to take a lot more money, imo.
    And, therein lies the problem!

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    And, therein lies the problem!
    If you think about it, we are only playing them because they are going to give us a very small portion of their money and we have to have it to fund our programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T1 View Post
    If you think about it, we are only playing them because they are going to give us a very small portion of their money and we have to have it to fund our programs.
    Yep, the Dawgs need at least two money games....so, they have to be whored out twice!!

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    Re: First Glance - OU

    Actually.....playing OU makes more sense than playing Auburn, which makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER! At least LA Tech shares a recruiting base (DFW & East TX) with OU. That means that many DFW & E TX recruits will read the pregame stories, see the scores, maybe recognize our coaches from their recruiting trips, and probably remember the fact that LA Tech and OU played.

    But Auburn U is practically on top of the Georgia state line. It makes no sense to play Auburn. Other than drawing a check, I see no benefit to playing Auburn.

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