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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmDawg View Post
    Some of the accounts in the gospel of Thomas can be attributed to Jesus only because they can be substantiated by 3 or 4 of the canonical gospels. Your quote previously posted is not one of them.


    Furthermore...many of the sayings in the gospel of thomas which are substantiated in the 4 canonical gospels are presented in a different context, attempting to give the saying a different meaning.
    It would seem to me that some of the Gospel of St. Thomas pre-dates the Gospel of Like, John, etc. Out of all of the Disciples, it appears that Thomas was most likely to be able to read and write. Furthermore, you base your conclusions on the assumption that the 4 canonical gospels (which really are just one) are more accurate than the Jesus sayings in Thomas' gospel.
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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    It would seem to me that some of the Gospel of St. Thomas pre-dates the Gospel of Like, John, etc. Out of all of the Disciples, it appears that Thomas was most likely to be able to read and write. Furthermore, you base your conclusions on the assumption that the 4 canonical gospels (which really are just one) are more accurate than the Jesus sayings in Thomas' gospel.
    You don't seem to see a difference between the two sets.

    http://blogs.gcu.edu/college-of-theo...ostic-gospels/

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmDawg View Post
    You don't seem to see a difference between the two sets.

    http://blogs.gcu.edu/college-of-theo...ostic-gospels/
    Your link is about the Gospel of Judas. Really not on point with the Gospel of St. Thomas, which is dated by some scholars before or the same time as the Source Q. Seems to me that a list of sayings of Jesus would pre-date a narrative account of His life. Also, the sequence of the sayings of Jesus does not follow the sequence found in the canonical gospels which would be unusual if it post-dated them.

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    Your link is about the Gospel of Judas. Really not on point with the Gospel of St. Thomas, which is dated by some scholars before or the same time as the Source Q. Seems to me that a list of sayings of Jesus would pre-date a narrative account of His life. Also, the sequence of the sayings of Jesus does not follow the sequence found in the canonical gospels which would be unusual if it post-dated them.
    Did you read anything other than the first sentence of the article? It is about all of them, and specifically mentions the gospel of Thomas.

    Here is another. http://www.equip.org/article/the-gno...hey-authentic/

    And, most scholars date Thomas to the second century.

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by RhythmDawg View Post
    Did you read anything other than the first sentence of the article? It is about all of them, and specifically mentions the gospel of Thomas.

    Here is another. http://www.equip.org/article/the-gno...hey-authentic/

    And, most scholars date Thomas to the second century.
    I don't consider research articles about the Gospel of Thomas from Christian groups to be trustworthy. They have an axe to grind. Of course they are not going to accept it. It doesn;t fit nicely into their script.

    The one thing you may have not considered is that Jesus may have well been giving his Disciples "secret" or gnostic teachings (as recorded in the Gospel of Thomas.) As you may know, Jesus only spoke parables in public.

    As to the dating some scholars put it before Source Q or about the same time which would be between 65 AD and 95 AD.

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    Jesus only spoke parables in public.
    Wrong again Salty

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    Wrong again Salty
    https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-parables.html

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    You said He only spoke in parables in public. That is wrong.

    Then you referenced something saying after a point (Matt.13) when He spoke in parables he only explained them to His disciples. This did not prove you right.

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    You said He only spoke in parables in public. That is wrong.

    Then you referenced something saying after a point (Matt.13) when He spoke in parables he only explained them to His disciples. This did not prove you right.
    You're right. I didn't expressed myself well.

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    You're right. I didn't expressed myself well.
    What????? No way!!

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS View Post
    What????? No way!!
    Sorry to let you down Tyler, had to happen sooner or later.

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by saltydawg View Post
    Jesus said, "I shall give you what no eye has seen and what no ear has heard and what no hand has touched and what has never occurred to the human mind."
    More of Thomas?

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    Re: Reflective of having worst POTUS ever...

    Quote Originally Posted by PawDawg View Post
    More of Thomas?
    Yep. I find it interesting since it gives a different perspective than the canonical gospels. YMMV.

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