EPA regs killing Mitcham's Peaches

[DelhiDawg]

This has been discussed locally for a few years but watchdog.org has picked up the story:
http://watchdog.org/158760/peach-orchard-ruston/
Fox picked up the watchdog story:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...cmp=latestnews

I don't know whether the chemical is good, bad or harmless but just another example of gov. regulation. Freon, lightbulbs, toilet water, and now peaches.

[GermDawg]

Sucks that the Mitchams couldn't for see the banning of this chemical back in 1987 when the treaty was signed and try to anticipate. Lord knows how people grew peaches before Methy Bromide...

I'm a ChemEng that often deals with government regs and yes sometimes they are onerous but one thing they rarely are is quick to be enacted, and even less quickly if it affects small business/farms. It's been almost 30 years since the US agreed to stop CH3Br use, Mitcham's short site is killing his orchards, not the EPA.

Science it great and we've achieved awesome things, but some of those compounds we've created have really bad side effects on our environment and aren't worth the price margin and need to be regulated/eliminated.

[PawDawg]

Science it great and we've achieved awesome things, but some of those compounds we've created have really bad side effects on our environment and aren't worth the price margin and need to be regulated/eliminated.

You know for sure MB is destroying the Ozone?

How are other Peach Farmers able to deal with this fungus? You imply they have other options.

[GermDawg]

You know for sure MB is destroying the Ozone?

How are other Peach Farmers able to deal with this fungus? You imply they have other options.

Yes.
http://www.unep.fr/ozonaction/inform...les/3020-e.pdf

Methyl bromide is also a potent ozone depleting substance (ODS). The bromine atom from methyl bromide acts quickly in the stratosphere ozone to break down 60 times as much ozone as a chlorine atom from CFC emissions.

Yes they do.
http://www.epa.gov/ozone/mbr/alts.html

[stodgdog]

The EPA is out of control. The very best way to have a good environment is to have a good economy. That is my observation after spending much of my professional life in the environmental arena.

[Woof!]

The very best way to have a good environment is to have a good economy.

Yeah, the air and water in Southern California is as pristine today as it was before the city was founded.

[Tech77]

So we get regulated in rural America based on what California has allowed to happen in Los Angeles.

[Champ967]

The very best way to have a good environment is to have a good economy. That is my observation after spending much of my professional life in the environmental arena.

Your correlation is correct, but you got the causal relationship reversed.

A good environment produces a good economy. Not the other way around.

[Champ967]

So we get regulated in rural America based on what California has allowed to happen in Los Angeles.

No silly. We get regulated in America because the free market tends to produce environmental externalities that adversely impact individuals beyond the scope of a particular transaction.

[stodgdog]

Your correlation is correct, but you got the causal relationship reversed.

A good environment produces a good economy. Not the other way around.

No. I have it right.

[stodgdog]

Yeah, the air and water in Southern California is as pristine today as it was before the city was founded.

You make no valid point, as usual.

[mikedog]

Your correlation is correct, but you got the causal relationship reversed.

A good environment produces a good economy. Not the other way around.

This is a dumb, empirically false statement.

[Woof!]

The very best way to have a good environment is to have a good economy.

Yeah, the air and water in Southern California is as pristine today as it was before the city was founded.

You make no valid point, as usual.

Yeah, just go to any city in the USA where there is the greatest amount economic activity (Los Angeles, Houston, Dallas/Ft. Worth to name only a few) and you will find a polluted environment.

[Cal&Ken]

Sucks that the Mitchams couldn't for see the banning of this chemical back in 1987 when the treaty was signed and try to anticipate. Lord knows how people grew peaches before Methy Bromide...

I'm a ChemEng that often deals with government regs and yes sometimes they are onerous but one thing they rarely are is quick to be enacted, and even less quickly if it affects small business/farms. It's been almost 30 years since the US agreed to stop CH3Br use, Mitcham's short site is killing his orchards, not the EPA.

Science it great and we've achieved awesome things, but some of those compounds we've created have really bad side effects on our environment and aren't worth the price margin and need to be regulated/eliminated.

I worry about anyone defending the agency that wants to tax cows because of their "emissons". The EPA is a joke.

[TYLERTECHSAS]

Yeah, the air and water in Southern California is as pristine today as it was before the city was founded.

I still think this guy is the old Saltydawg that lost every arguement he tried to make, with mainly bizarre and gross correlations I might add, on BB&B.